Shiro_Kisaragi Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I know i'm gonna annoy lot of players, however I think that Sortie missions are WAY TO EASY. Honestly i play Warframe since april 2013 and i know this game inside out, to me and people in my alliance sorties are too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blasron Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 depend on the sorty mission. So we can say that its a RNG type of difficulty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminem2420 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 They're fine the way they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennoninjahunter Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I second. Though it is much interesting than vanilla starchart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direcyphre Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Seems fine as they are, as of course they are obviously easy for veteran players. Typically it takes few tactics to ultimately win, as we did the crazy Escalation tactical alert way back when. At this stage, doing anything more wouldn't really make it harder, just more annoying. Current mission 'difficulty' fits the bill in a more global fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiro_Kisaragi Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 True, Sorties ARE way more interesting that starchart. Maybe mission type changing during mission on random at one of missions would be interesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defendor Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 It's pretty hard to make missions meaningfully difficult with the current gameplay systems and enemy design. The enemy levels already mean that they're huge bullet sponges and kill you very fast. This just proves that the powers we have are so OP they pretty much nullify any potential challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyDinosaur Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 they are fine the way they are. Not everyone has a giant clan to work with, so a lot of people are dealing with PUGs, I duo them with my boyfriend, personally. We could probably do them if they were harder, but you could just do trials with 4 people and request more trials if you really need harder stuff I assume. They are challenging AND accessible as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadyRoad Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Their to easy to be what they were advertised as. Except the defense. So annoying >.< I hate defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennoninjahunter Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Maybe mission type changing during mission on random at one of missions would be interesting? Oh no, please DE no, just no. Surely U haven't experienced mission changing while u're doing it. It's frustrating ,VERY frustrating. and yeah, for us veterans who pretty much have every kind of arsenal, we dont have much problem doing sorties. but for newbies or middle rank(not newbie nor veteran) players,it can be very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodKitten Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 sorties can be hard or easy depands on restriction, try corpus mobile defense melee only and schoring ospray turn from annoying to OMFG just die!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiro_Kisaragi Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 How about adding random nightmare at last mission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennoninjahunter Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 sorties can be hard or easy depands on restriction, try corpus mobile defense melee only and schoring ospray turn from annoying to OMFG just die!!!! bless trin, and as I said in my previous post, veterans tend to have every arsenal available compared to newbie/ not veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xebov Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I dont think that they are to easy. Some combinations of modifier and mission are easier than others. I would like to see more missions on this difficulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zareek Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I think exterminations should be timed. Otherwise I think they are starting to look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiro_Kisaragi Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 I think exterminations should be timed. Otherwise I think they are starting to look good Sorties are awesome idea, although there are tweaks to be made. Also, great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jopos15 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Oh no, please DE no, just no. Surely U haven't experienced mission changing while u're doing it. It's frustrating ,VERY frustrating. and yeah, for us veterans who pretty much have every kind of arsenal, we dont have much problem doing sorties. but for newbies or middle rank(not newbie nor veteran) players,it can be very difficult. it happend for me i did a spy mission then it changed into a assassination then it turned into a exterminate and the spawns of the exterminate were also bugged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaa Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I did the "harder" draco yesterday in a PuG just to see. Every member of the group was < MR 10 and had multiple non-leveled weapons on or not max weapons. They couldn't even get 15% on the first wave, it was a disaster...i couldn't keep up with trying to rez them, and when i would get them up they would put clip after clip into a regular enemy and not even get them half. I think they are fine how they are. You will never please the most hardcore of players but some of the missions do offer a decent amount of difficulty. I'm enjoying them alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I did the "harder" draco yesterday in a PuG just to see. Every member of the group was < MR 10 and had multiple non-leveled weapons on or not max weapons. They couldn't even get 15% on the first wave, it was a disaster...i couldn't keep up with trying to rez them, and when i would get them up they would put clip after clip into a regular enemy and not even get them half. I think they are fine how they are. You will never please the most hardcore of players but some of the missions do offer a decent amount of difficulty. I'm enjoying them alot. I failed that mission a few times until I got in a pug with a few meta frames. Its was boringly easy...one round the enemies didnt even get 1%. CC frames are broken at times, it was kind of disappointing to cheese my way to victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennagade Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 The objective missions like spy remain difficult. Things like defense are just repetitive. Exterminations are jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dantos- Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) The problem is vets (ill count myself in that too) have all the top tier weapons and frames multi formad with max mods, we have an answer to everything. Get into one of those sorties with a player with lesser gear (corpus extrimus defense sortie with a rhino using a 22 gorgon and 13 tipido as an example) things....dont go so well The sorties cant be geared toward the top % of players, thats suposedly what the nightmare raids are for. Edited December 9, 2015 by Vanroe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennagade Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 The problem is vets (ill count myself in that too) have all the top tier weapons and frames multi formad with max mods, we have an answer to everything. Get into one of those sorties with a player with lesser gear (corpus extrimus defense sortie with a rhino using a 22 gorgon and 13 tipido as an example) things....dont go so well The sorties cant be geared toward the top % of players, thats suposedly what the nightmare raids are for. I could have sworn that sorties were supposed to be endgame content. They're supposed to be the hardest missions in the game(other than raids). Players going in with things like a 22 gorgon have to realise that they shouldn't be there with that kind of weapon as they are hurting the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonedtodeath Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I know i'm gonna annoy lot of players, however I think that Sortie missions are WAY TO EASY. Honestly i play Warframe since april 2013 and i know this game inside out, to me and people in my alliance sorties are too easy. I agree, there should be a true end game option for people who want something even tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimmerDoll Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Some seem too difficult and because of my connection I can only solo. I can never do all three and actually stopped playing the game since I can no longer do anything but the old stuff which I'm bored with. I too have been playing since the beta, I'm a founder told way back we'd always be able to solo though it's never been really truthful at all. I've stopped playing after this sortie junk. Melee only in mobile defense and junk like that. Long defense. It's not fun to me or a fair challenge like other games that have a similar end game feature that I can at least do. I don't farm in here either as I don't have a lot of time. I play games to have fun, their true intention. This game flatlined for me with the new update, as ping sorties is just unfun and an immense waste of time when maybe one night I get through two missions spending three of the four hours I have available, but then just can't do the final mission so no reward can be obtained. It would be nice if the enemies scaled better to solo or duo or trio and we're not bullet sponges and didn't do a ton of damage. As of a day ago I stopped logging in. I don't care anymore the game is just not fun. I just check the forums now for any changes to sorties so the game becomes playable once more for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elenortirie Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 the corpus missions with "bonus shields" condition are very yumm for my Maggie Prime ^^ although do I know if so easy? its not so fun when such a sapping osprey kills you off in like 5 seconds from maxed max shields/health to deadly dead..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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