So Brexit could possibly not happen

[Ibro156]

Keyword: possibly.

UK High Courts Decision

Brexit: Majority now wants to remain in EU, poll finds

tl;dr High Court are making Parliment vote (by the majority over the minority), meaning whether Brexit happens or not is up to Parliment Members. Also, the Public of UK seem to have swayed and don't want Brexit to happen.

Just a little side note: WHO THE  F*CK CALLS SOMETHING THIS IMPORTANT "BREXIT", instead of the "European-British Referendum?"

[(PSN)AngelShur]

lol, it was the anger that spoke on that referendum... people were vex with the EU and it's policies and they even named the referendum with anger, BREXIT.

But now people realise what the costs are for leaving the EU and they start to think level headed.. it's the parliements job now to convince people otherwise on or even try to get the bunny out the hat and revoke this decission.

enough politrics lessons for today

[Datsher]

I am both happy and disappointed at the same time

[Ibro156]

11 hours ago, Skycook3y said:

I am both happy and disappointed at the same time

Let's see what Americans will do...

Edited November 4, 2016 by Ibro156

[Datsher]

10 minutes ago, Ibro156 said:

Let's see what Americans will do...

True, given that all options are bad

[Valiant]

It'll happen or there will be riots. It would also set a horrid precedent for the future of any other democratic vote. 

It's an absolute slap in the face in democracy if it doesn't. A majority is a majority. One side won. Simple as. I can't properly describe people who keep wanting another referendum. What about the side who still want to leave? Is it alright to ignore their wishes too even though they originally won? In the end it's not right.

Think people are considering the short term benefits of remaining in the Eu, opposed to the long term ones of being out of it. Excluding the politicians who are likely considering their pensions when remaining in the Eu.  

I try to avoid political discussions online as it can become chaotic. However, I don't understand why people would want to remain in a union which has become bigger than it should have and which, despite being consulted multiple times, has refused to listen to (from what I understand) any request from the UK. Why would you want to remain in something like that which refused to acknowledge or listen to you at all? Or one which appears to be bullying you into leaving sooner when you've made a decision they dislike? Or them also introducing blanket laws for all members? This all gives me ill warnings. 

Edited November 4, 2016 by Naith

[321agemo]

Whats more interesting is the change in vote isn't even that high. Leave campaign won by 52-48, and this new survey just says 51-49 to remain.

Honestly, if a 2nd referendum does occur, it could go either way.

[Blazemate]

Heh.

[AerinSol]

This is why empires are always the better choice.

[Datsher]

47 minutes ago, AerinSol said:

This is why empires are always the better choice.

2nd Reich > rest

[BrownStalin]

21 hours ago, Skycook3y said:

2nd Reich > rest

The second reich didn't even last 50 years and they didn't even win any wars.

The Austrian Empire lasted longer and was a lot more successful.

[Datsher]

Just now, BrownStalin said:

The second reich didn't even last 50 years and they didn't even win any wars.

The Austrian Empire lasted longer and was a lot more successful.

Bismarck > rest

[BrownStalin]

1 minute ago, Skycook3y said:

Bismarck > rest

That I can agree on!

Better than that disgrace, Wilhelm II

[Datsher]

Just now, BrownStalin said:

That I can agree on!

Better than that disgrace, Wilhelm II

Indeed

[Brynslustafir]

On 11/3/2016 at 6:21 PM, Ibro156 said:

 

Just a little side note: WHO THE  F*CK CALLS SOMETHING THIS IMPORTANT "BREXIT", instead of the "European-British Referendum?"

I'm sure journalists who have deadlines to meet appreciate being able to abbreviate drawn out names like that. 

[Evanescent]

And here-we-go!

[Slaviar]

So... It's democracy only if we like results?

[Ibro156]

3 hours ago, Slaviar said:

So... It's democracy only if we like results?

Well, the voting was more like a "survey" in a way. To see what the people want. I knew in the beginning that Parliment and Supreme Court will have the final word, not the people.  

[Kashuken]

4 hours ago, Slaviar said:

So... It's democracy only if we like results?

Pretty much correct.

If Brexit lost people would have been miffed and UKIP would still be campaigning to leave the EU if anymore powers left the UK goverment but really it would have been business as usual while the EU screws the people for the select few.

But since the Remainers lost it is not democracy, the ruling by the courts allows the minority to dictate to the majority what it should do.

If Brexit did not go through because of parliment then why bother voting ever again? dont like the result? take it to the courts or just ignore it anyways because who cares what the people say.

Article 50 should have been triggered the next day afterwards because now the globalist elite/politicians/corporations have a way in and will try and F*** this up anyway possible.

[Sovyul]

On 11/4/2016 at 2:30 PM, Naith said:

I can't properly describe people who keep wanting another referendum

It's easy: communists.

 

[Artekkor]

13 hours ago, Sovyul said:

It's easy: communists.

 

Eh, i don't get the connection.

In what way communism contradicts refferendums?

Unless it was a joke and i got triggered.

[Sovyul]

7 hours ago, Artek94 said:

Eh, i don't get the connection.

In what way communism contradicts refferendums?

Unless it was a joke and i got triggered.

Soviet communists did everything in their power to bypass the law in their own favor. They also ironically named Eastern Germany during the Cold War as  German Democratic Republic

• Is an extremely corrupt government in charge of the country?
• Do their own people suffer under their own rule?
• Does the country flourish during that period?
• Do they preach equality?

If: yes, yes, no, yes

Bingo, it's communism.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Sovyul

[Artekkor]

2 hours ago, Sovyul said:

Soviet communists did everything in their power to bypass the law in their own favor. They also ironically named Eastern Germany during the Cold War as  German Democratic Republic

• Is an extremely corrupt government in charge of the country?
• Do their own people suffer under their own rule?
• Does the country flourish during that period?
• Do they preach equality?

If: yes, yes, no, yes

Bingo, it's communism.

That's just USSR's political practices though. In other words: people are at fault, not ideology (except for preaching of equality, i don't see how that's a flaw in the first place...).
Also that's all mistakes USSR made in it's early/mid age, closer to the end it was pretty okay according to people who lived back then (somewhere between 1960-1990).

[Datsher]

2 hours ago, Sovyul said:

Soviet communists did everything in their power to bypass the law in their own favor. They also ironically named Eastern Germany during the Cold War as  German Democratic Republic

• Is an extremely corrupt government in charge of the country?
• Do their own people suffer under their own rule?
• Does the country flourish during that period?
• Do they preach equality?

If: yes, yes, no, yes

Bingo, it's communism.

Pretty sure the German Democratic Republic wasn't Communist but Socialist since their ruling party was the SED (Sozialistische Einheitspartei Deutschlands)

Also inb4 real socialism / real communism has never been practiced.

[[DE]Taylor]

While this discussion has remained civil (because it completely derailed from the Brexit topic? who knows?), we would prefer to keep political discussions off of these forums. Politics just stray too far into the "irrelevant content" realm to be allowed here, on top of the possible insults and flaming that follow. 

Yes, political conversations don't always lead to fighting, but when they do, it's a huge mess. So, as a preventative measure, I am locking this thread.

Thank you all for understanding.