aligatorno Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, Kaiser_Suoh said: 30% critical chance will and must be nerfed... sadly I remember when DE released Magnus (or iguess AKMAgnus)... but with 50% critical chance. Some ppl bought what "50%" critical chance beast with real money, after some time DE nerfed it with a "sorry :c" Be careful if you want to buy that "beast" Don't forget that the weapon is a shotgun, so the crit chance does not work the same it does for other types of weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Wait wait wait so if a shotgun doesn't have slash or status it's a pos? I've been playing Warframe all wrong by happily using all those puncture and impact shotguns! I must have brain problems. BRB uninstalling Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolunde Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Who said it was a PoS? So everything is either OP or a PoS and that's the whole grading scale, huh? Oh yeah, this is the warframe forums, of course it is. My bad, derp! 11/10 would overreact again. Cheers. Edited February 22, 2017 by Rolunde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamsmithJane Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Keep in mind, this weapon has two fire modes. Given the 100 accuracy stat, it's reasonable to think the primary fire mode is for "focused" shots. Since arsenal stats for alternate fire modes are not yet implemented, we can't see what the "broad" shots will do. It may be that it has better status performance in shotgun mode. Perhaps someone who has one will be kind enough to share the details? <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achaix Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 You just know it's gonna be "balanced" after a week or two of Prime Access. Gotta git that cash, and if temporary power creep is the way, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 that 30% crit chance does look awfully nice, and if you can get a Crit Riven for it with Maxed primed mods, it should enter Red Crit territory, right? I guess Disposition is a factor though, and I wouldn't be surprised if it had a faint Disposition, as this thing sounds like it might become one of the best Secondaries in the game. two fire modes is also nice, finally we'll have a shotgun Secondary that doesn't need you to be within breathing range to do damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Thats not a hand cannon, my aklex riven with +321% damage +120% magazine -100% recoil is a dual hand cannon. Meh Ill farm it at my leisure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner_Lindberg Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 this depends on its damage falloff if it falls off like Parana does it will be bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Variiiz Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Hopefully Baro sells primed crit mods this week so I can get some insane numbers on this weapon :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robolaser Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Who cares about status, slash and stripping armor, when sheer brute force is often more than enough even against sortie enemies? 40 minutes ago, MrFoxAos said: this depends on its damage falloff if it falls off like Parana does it will be bad The Pyrana has NO damage dropoff over distance. An excellent secondary, though its recoil, automatic firing and somewhat long reload make it hard to use for scrubs most people. I'm glad Euphonia, which is very similar, is not the prime version of it. That way the it keeps its strong disposition, for now :) Edited February 23, 2017 by Robolaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner_Lindberg Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, Robolaser said: Who cares about status, slash and stripping armor, when sheer brute force is often more than enough even against sortie enemies? The Pyrana has NO damage dropoff over distance. An excellent secondary, though its recoil, automatic firing and somewhat long reload make it hard to use for scrubs most people. I'm glad Euphonia, which is very similar, is not the prime version of it. That way the it keeps its strong disposition, for now :) ill take it you never used it before go in the sim and try it just take 2 steps back and watch how its doing like 30%ish less damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seinerweisen Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 7 hours ago, Syvarin said: Finally, a use for Primed Target Cracker and Primed Pistol Gambit. I haven't bothered ranking mine up because there are no good critical secondaries. Lex Prime, Aklex Prime, Vaykor Mareloke, Aksomati? Akstiletto Prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robolaser Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, MrFoxAos said: ill take it you never used it before Yeah sure, i just typed randomly... sigh. I use mine in game almost daily. Not once in a while in the simulacrum. That said, maybe you were talking about spread? In that case, yes obviously the average total damage per shot against a single target will decrease over distance (though not as much as you claimed), as some pellets will miss. But the damage per pellet won't. I hope that cleared up any misunderstandings. Edited February 23, 2017 by Robolaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Rolunde said: Who said it was a PoS? So everything is either OP or a PoS and that's the whole grading scale, huh? Oh yeah, this is the warframe forums, of course it is. My bad, derp! 11/10 would overreact again. Cheers. I will reaction to your reaction of my reaction by reacting by saying that with this weapon DE has NERFed ALL primary shotguns by making a secondary shotgun that can use two primed crit mods. Where's my primed blunderbuss DE? Shotguns are now ruined now until the end of time for realz!!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComCray Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 hours ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said: finally we'll have a shotgun Secondary that doesn't need you to be within breathing range to do damage. Kohmak says hi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemmo67 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 10 hours ago, XtheMATTx said: Its a secondary, status isnt needed for it. You missed its crit chance too im assuming. no i did not miss the crit but status is way more usefull in sortie levels than pure dmg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myscho Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) MR 14 locked Edited February 23, 2017 by Myscho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellnar_Doombringer Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 14 hours ago, xXx_mtv_xXx said: Not sure if troll or serious lol status sucks compared to raw crit damage, plus most people will be slapping elementals on this and they scale off the total physical damage. Dude... Do you have any idea what gas + slash proc does to every kind of enemies ? even 100+ levels ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 14 hours ago, arm4geddon-117 said: Status sucks? gosh so much ignorance these days :-/ There are Status weapons and Crit weapons and those that toe the line, they are all good (more or less) and just because one doesn't much have of crit or status really has no bearing on it being a "good" weapon. Does it do what you want to then its a good weapon, if not then level it to 30 and sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teloch Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 13 hours ago, ComCray said: Isn't this weapon really a magnus prime though? High crit, mainly impact damage.. looks pretty much the same... traded fire rate and status for accuracy... edit: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Magnus One cold winter evening, Pyrana and Magnus had a nice private soiree over a cup of tea and Dvorak's Othello overture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckMaverick Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 16 hours ago, SpeedOfLightPuncher said: idk but that status doesn't look nice at all also impact damage Considering that with the low status chance you'll have at least two 90% elemental mods on it, the impact damage will usually be less than a third of its total damage output, so not that big of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--Kyl0Ren Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, xXx_mtv_xXx said: Not sure if troll or serious lol status sucks compared to raw crit damage, plus most people will be slapping elementals on this and they scale off the total physical damage. Lol others should be asking if ur trolling or not xD. Status is more viable against high lvl enemies. If u play only non-endurance runs and meet max (80-100)lvl enemies then yeah does not matter to you. It says more about which type of enemies you play against rather than what build is better. Please try status weapons and learn from builds before you make comments like STATUS sucks xD. Again im not saying the new weapon is bad or anything. Just saying status weapons are not bad like you just made them out to be. Edited February 23, 2017 by --Q--Kyl0Ren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComCray Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Teloch said: One cold winter evening, Pyrana and Magnus had a nice private soiree over a cup of tea and Dvorak's Othello overture... wow... that happens to be one of my favorite pieces by Dvorak.. They got good taste.. I bet the tea was a zesty Russian Earl Grey, with fresh lemon... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Euphona Prime build: x2 Prime pistol mods, x2 elemental, hydro cross hair, lethal torrent, seration, barrel diffusion. standard for a crit build secondary. Edited February 23, 2017 by (XB1)FCastle74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 21 hours ago, -Voltage- said: Sweet Jesus DE. I am just amazed with the stats and cannot wait to farm this beauty. Without a riven this thing will hit like a freight train. I mean look at this: "Instrument of devastation" (P.S it has 3 V polarities) Ash is holding that weapon wrong, (cup and saucer is incorrect) 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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