Design Council Challenge Discussion and Feedback

[MrM1]

Today's "Council Challenge"-Alert makes you face 10 rounds of Lvl 100-120 infested, while only using melee weapons. No problem.

 

But a f*cking Lvl 120 Juggernaut at the end? People are struggling to kill a normal, Lvl 100 Juggernaut with a Tonkor, which can one-hit kill every other enemy in the game, but a Lvl 120 Jugger just by using melee weapons is way too much!

 

 

When you kill a Lvl 120 Juggernaut just with a melee weapon and the only reward you get is 1 single potato and 50.000 Credits:

[PrVonTuckIII]

*Me and the other DC members*

Edited April 28, 2017 by PrVonTuckIII

[Jobistober]

Fatal tele... oh wait...

[DaftMeat]

Skill.

Alternately, luck.

[MrM1]

1 minute ago, Jobistober said:

Fatal tele... oh wait...

Not sure if you're being serious or sarcastic.

[Xekrin]

Space Magic!

[GamerLuc]

did you know they nerfed fatal teleport?

it was the only possible way to kill this monsters

[ashyrae]

Not sure if it works, but you can try using a Loki to switch-teleport it off the side of the map.

[Praxxor]

By realizing that you don't have to, that's how doing S#&$ in Warframe works, DE tells you how it's supposed to work, and you find ways to do it in your way (in this case it's extremely simple.)

[Jobistober]

Just now, MrM1 said:

Not sure if you're being serious or sarcastic.

Definitely sarcastic. About 2 weeks ago, DE "fixed" the juggernaut to be invulnerable to melee finishers. Now we know why.

[trunks013]

oh Juggernaut appears in the defense mission ? sry the website i use says its a defense lol

Thats gonna be interesting have you tryed operator mode ?

[DSpite]

I'm not going to exactly disagree with this one.

The "problem" I see with this is that basically, after you discover the Jugg at the end, it makes you think "oh, so in other words, I can't just bring what I like to deal with the fact it's a high level infested melee, I have to bring something specifically built to deal with that end unit".

 

[MrM1]

Just now, Jobistober said:

Definitely sarcastic. About 2 weeks ago, DE "fixed" the juggernaut to be invulnerable to melee finishers. Now we know why.

Ah, good to know.

[Fiftycentis]

operators are the way, quite easy, really long, but easy as i was trin healing the 2 inaros and the nezha when they needed (you know, that jugg was an infinite energy supply)

[(PSN)A_SimpleName]

Wait, this is a thing? Dang, those DC are sick. I have my torches and pitchfork ready. Who's with me?

Wait for it to expose belly, pummel away. Excal Exalted blade, Nidus 1st, Valkyr, Wukong, Boltace, rusty nail, used needles.

[Genoscythe]

Well, as I said in a previous thread, nidus rekt the juggy. Alternatively, I am big fan of gunblades.

[MrM1]

2 minutes ago, trunks013 said:

oh Juggernaut appears in the defense mission ? sry the website i use says its a defense lol

Thats gonna be interesting have you tryed operator mode ?

When you go into operator mode, that thing pokes you over to death. Not a good idea...

(At least that was my case)

Edited April 28, 2017 by MrM1

[Brachion]

I used Excal. It took a while, but we eventually killed it. I can imagine Valkyr also working quite well.

[(PSN)SciManSays]

I don't know if this is PS4 only.

So me and a group of max-level warframes took on the new Lotus Challenge, having to take on 10 waves of level 100+ infested, with only melee weapons. 

Took us grinding like 20-30 minutes to get to the end, no problem, then a level 125 juggernaut shows up.

Literally took us 30 minutes of all attacking it before all 4 of us had died and lost all of our revives, we barely did almost 1/4 of its health. 

There was nothing we could do to kill it without it killing us all like nothing, even with us constantly re-reviving each other.

This is by far the dumbest idea I have seen Warframe come up with, and I hope they learn from this and never try something so stupid ever again. 

(in before all the noobs say "get gud" we were all max level, over MR15, with level 30 frames and gear lol)

[Arkvold]

This is the exact question I want the answer to.

Killing the rest of this mission is an interesting challenge, but doable (My solution consisted of Nidus and a lot of energy pizzas, with an Ember backing me up).

But a high level juggernaut, which can one-shot me from full health on a max-Vitality, max-Steel Fiber Nidus, from across the map. through obstacles, and can dash around and wedge itself into map holes where it can spike-shot you, but you can't strike back is bad enough.  Doing it with a melee weapon?  Damn-near impossible.

How the actual Hek are you supposed to kill this thing?!

[MrM1]

1 minute ago, Arkvold said:

This is the exact question I want the answer to.

Killing the rest of this mission is an interesting challenge, but doable (My solution consisted of Nidus and a lot of energy pizzas, with an Ember backing me up).

But a high level juggernaut, which can one-shot me from full health on a max-Vitality, max-Steel Fiber Nidus, from across the map. through obstacles, and can dash around and wedge itself into map holes where it can spike-shot you, but you can't strike back is bad enough.  Doing it with a melee weapon?  Damn-near impossible.

How the actual Hek are you supposed to kill this thing?!

The legend says the operator mode makes it easily possible. I must disagree with this, by my own experience, though.

[kruwreka]

A @^%$^&& joke of a mission. Soloed the whole thing with a Saryn. Didn't make a dent in the the Jugg. Left

BTW who makes a poison based frame that can be poisoned. What next? A ocean based Frame that can't swim?

[Jobistober]

Now we know why DE "fixed" juggies to be invulnerable to melee finishers a couple weeks ago.

[(XBOX)Chryssalid 8492]

Use your operator...

[Kylo.]

My Kavat removed Juggernauts Armour and my Valkyr deleted the Juggernaut in less than 5s, don't see the problem.