Can Oberon heal lures?

[(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow]

I've been wondering about this but haven't had a chance to test it on my own, does his renewal affect the lures or are we forced to use trinity to keep them up?

[DeMonkey]

It does, yes.

[MirageKnight]

Yup.

I run Oberon almost exclusively on Eidelon hunts mostly for that reason: Healing and damage reduction for players and lures.. Plus, Hallowed Ground is useful for mitigating status effects and weakening Vomvolysts.

[NinthAria]

Renewal does work on lures. Just make sure they're all in range when you cast it, otherwise they might miss the HoT effect. Also, this probably goes without saying, but keep an eye on your energy while it's rolling; the gantulyst and hydrolyst put a lot of strain on your energy pool between healing squadmates and lures, and can run you dry pretty quick after a few weak points have been destroyed.

[Sqecmi]

37 минут назад, MirageKnight сказал:

Yup.

I run Oberon almost exclusively on Eidelon hunts mostly for that reason: Healing and damage reduction for players and lures.. Plus, Hallowed Ground is useful for mitigating status effects and weakening Vomvolysts.

i never run eodolons with oberon, because he restricts movements and actions to his carpet. he also doest protect from damage completly so you have you to sit in void mode during energy burst and constantly watch so your frame would stand there while you are in operator mode. flat 400 armor also feels meh compared to trinity damage reduction

Edited April 10, 2018 by Sqecmi

[RobWasHere]

He can, but much slower than Trin.

Buff allies with Smite infusion, throw carpet when energy spike to avoid energy drain. He has some uses.

[(XBOX)ShadowBlood89]

2 hours ago, RobWasHere said:

He can, but much slower than Trin.

Buff allies with Smite infusion, throw carpet when energy spike to avoid energy drain. He has some uses.

nulffier arcane an do the same

[DarthKadra]

Oberon tank build will eat up whatever damage comes his way and never run out of energy. 

Vitality - Steel Fiber - Quick Thinking - Rage - Hunter Adrenaline and around 200% STR

Can also use his Phoenix augment instead of Rage if you wish. Whenever the mag spike is about to occur throw your 2nd on the ground, stand in it and soak up the damage. Can roll to mitigate it if your energy pool is full, but you're close to 0 HP, so that you don't lose any energy. 

Only 2 things can kill you - standing in Gantulyst's rays and a direct stomp on your head. 

There's a downside though - if there's a Harrow blocking the spike every time, you are gonna run out of energy very soon. Unless your group is destroying shields and limbs very very fast.

All in all, compared to Trinity - a small chance of losing a lure, especially if it's not following you. Can't have that mag spike blocked by Harrow, because you almost never receive enough damage during the fight (you mostly stay in op mode). Does not give a clem about incoming damage (save for the rays and direct stomp). Can negate mag proc.

Trinity, on the other hand, is squishy as hell and all the Blessing in the world can't save you from anything damaging, you have to be aware of your surroundings and heal asap if an Eidolon sneezes your way. Very easy healing of lures, no chance of losing one, save for your negligence. Unable to negate mag proc. 

2 hours ago, Sqecmi said:

i never run eodolons with oberon, because he restricts movements and actions to his carpet

The only frames that do not restrict movement during mag proc and are able to protect the others from it would be Harrow and Limbo. But none of them can heal. Trinity can heal and she doesn't restrict your movement, but no matter where you move you'll get blasted by the proc, because she can't negate it.There's no other frame apart from Oberon that can both heal and negate the magnetic proc, so what are we comparing here? Other than for the duration of the spike you can move wherever you want and you neither need to cast Hallowed Ground nor would you gain any benefit from standing on it.

[Sqecmi]

8 минут назад, DarthKadra сказал:

The only frames that do not restrict movement during mag proc and are able to protect the others from it would be Harrow and Limbo. But none of them can heal. Trinity can heal and she doesn't restrict your movement, but no matter where you move you'll get blasted by the proc, because she can't negate it.There's no other frame apart from Oberon that can both heal and negate the magnetic proc, so what are we comparing here? Other than for the duration of the spike you can move wherever you want and you neither need to cast Hallowed Ground nor would you gain any benefit from standing on it.

oberon can fill both harrow and trinity roles but alot worse, in both cases.

we have volt, chroma, oberon, who will be 4th to justfy bringing oberon and what is the value that extra frame adds to the team to sacrifice two specialists that excel at given roles?

1 час назад, (XB1)ShadowBlood89 сказал:

nulffier arcane an do the same

nullifier arcane protects from energy drain, but not from damage.

Edited April 10, 2018 by Sqecmi

[RobWasHere]

59 minutes ago, (XB1)ShadowBlood89 said:

nulffier arcane an do the same

Of course, but carpet has 100% chance and weaken the vombs. Oberon is nowhere the replacement of Trin, but good suplement, especially with Smite Infusion.

[DarthKadra]

17 minutes ago, Sqecmi said:

oberon can fill both harrow and trinity roles but alot worse, in both cases.

we have volt, chroma, oberon, who will be 4th to justfy bringing oberon and what is the value he adds to the team to sacrifice two specialists that excel at given roles?

I wouldn't say a lot worse. Worse, but not by a mile. Yes, his healing can't compete with 75% mitigation, but Trinity can't have it up throughout the whole fight. And Oberon is much tankier than Trinity, so there's very little chance of getting downed. 

If you're talking about a pre-made group, yes, I would bring Trin and Harrow to deal with healing and mag proc, respectively. But if you're picking a frame for yourself to go with a random group, picking Oberon is a solid choice, because he can do both for the whole group. Since you said "I never run", I assumed you are picking one frame here and the composition of the rest of the group is random. 

Edited April 10, 2018 by DarthKadra

[Sqecmi]

22 минуты назад, DarthKadra сказал:

I wouldn't say a lot worse. Worse, but not by a mile. Yes, his healing can't compete with 75% mitigation, but Trinity can't have it up throughout the whole fight

she can.

 

23 минуты назад, DarthKadra сказал:

But if you're picking a frame for yourself to go with a random group, picking Oberon is a solid choice, because he can do both for the whole group.

agreed, but it's easier to spend 5 min in recruitment chat for at least meta frames, than carry lvl 3 excal, zephyr and loki, and i've seen alot worse stuff in eidolon bounties.

[DarthKadra]

15 minutes ago, Sqecmi said:

she can.

Well, she could, if you use energy pads and do a lot of micromanagement going in and out of op mode. In practice I think that would be a pain in the arse. 

18 minutes ago, Sqecmi said:

agreed, but it's easier to spend 5 min in recruitment chat for at least meta frames, than carry lvl 3 excal, zephyr and loki, and i've seen alot worse stuff in eidolon bounties.

It's just me, but I never bother and it's not very often that I see some non-meta frames. I've seen an Excal blasting his waves at Eidolon regardless of the phase the other day. I decided that it would take too long to type anything to him, so did the others I presume, so we let him be. A couple of other frames that bring no benefit to the group, but most of the time the group is fine. I'd say about half the time I manage to do 2 hunts per night with a random group. Other times just one full and the first two eidolons. So far I've been using Trin or Oberon, so that I'm sure there's a healer in the group.

What I hate about Trin is most of the time you're ok, but sometimes you get very unlucky and just happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, and boom, she's down, down, down several times over the hunt. Usually one-shot or while casting 4 trying to heal sudden massive damage. With Oberon, rarely, if the group is too weak, and the fight basically relies on you to do most of everything and starts to take ages, others dying left and right - you run out of energy and have to spam pads and one of the lures dies etc... you get the idea. But most of the time if the group is alright, he works great and I feel waaaay safer than with Trin, because you can basically ignore any damaging mechanics, save for the two I mentioned above.  

[Sqecmi]

3 минуты назад, DarthKadra сказал:

Well, she could, if you use energy pads and do a lot of micromanagement going in and out of op mode. In practice I think that would be a pain in the arse. 

in practice 3\4x3 cap is already pain in the arse and a lot of micromanagement.