Softballbryan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 There should not be a kick option in this game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ5511 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Dreadwire said: Here we go again ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)guzmantt1977 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Ekhael said: Why isn't there a kick function in squads yet? Because people keep asking for a vote kick option, without recognising that they're the people who are likely to abuse it, and that says a lot about the community. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Itsmez said: A: people doesnt want the kick function because they think they will get kicked for being bad, I want the kick option and the reason DE probably isnt doing it is because of the snowflakes. Way around this is to have an option to those who wish to have kick option that is enabled by your settings, and those who doesnt want the kick option can que normally. Thats how it would work so everyone is happy. Right now everyone is not happy. B: Welcome to the reality People aren't worried about kicked for being bad. People are worried about kicks being misused by petty people, like it is in any game with a kick system. "I don't like your choice of gun. Kick" "I don't want another nuker in my team. Kick" "you aren't willing to babysit me and support me with your items. Kick" "you don't want to camp this spot in Survival with me. Kick" "you are dealing more damage than me. Kick" "you are stealing my kills. Kick" "I don't like your name. Kick" "I don't like that you use your operator. Kick" The list goes on and on and on. And B: being rude without provocation gets you nowhere. This is a lesson you learn in the first grade. This is reality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White_Matter Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Miser_able said: People aren't worried about kicked for being bad. People are worried about kicks being misused by petty people, like it is in any game with a kick system. "I don't like your choice of gun. Kick" "I don't want another nuker in my team. Kick" "you aren't willing to babysit me and support me with your items. Kick" "you don't want to camp this spot in Survival with me. Kick" "you are dealing more damage than me. Kick" "you are stealing my kills. Kick" "I don't like your name. Kick" "I don't like that you use your operator. Kick" The list goes on and on and on. And B: being rude without provocation gets you nowhere. This is a lesson you learn in the first grade. This is reality. You forgot to drop the mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookieNumnums Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Its called disconnect internet. Unfortunately only works well as host and it kicks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookieNumnums Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 58 minutes ago, Miser_able said: People aren't worried about kicked for being bad. People are worried about kicks being misused by petty people, like it is in any game with a kick system. "I don't like your choice of gun. Kick" "I don't want another nuker in my team. Kick" "you aren't willing to babysit me and support me with your items. Kick" "you don't want to camp this spot in Survival with me. Kick" "you are dealing more damage than me. Kick" "you are stealing my kills. Kick" "I don't like your name. Kick" "I don't like that you use your operator. Kick" The list goes on and on and on. And B: being rude without provocation gets you nowhere. This is a lesson you learn in the first grade. This is reality. You forgot "No tennogen or deluxe skins: kick" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmez Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Rthen said: If this game had a kick function I would not be playing, fact is neither would tens of thousands of other players that fall into my demographic: part-time gamer, middle aged or older. The reason is that no matter how good you think you are your not going to measure up well against people that play the game daily and they will be kicking you if they feel that your not measuring up. I have a solution for you: run private games. Select other people to join you that are on your level of skill. I gave up trying to be perfect years ago. Fact is, I am so bad that even with countless hours of tweaking mods, weapons, frames it took me around 18 tries to get past the last Defend mission to finish the rail-jack solo quest. And, after almost two years of play I am only MR 13. So yeah, I am usually less overall damage and kills then most people in public groups. Its not for lack of trying. I never go AFK. So yeah I will be the guy that gets kicked. I also spend 200, 300 or so bucks a year in the prime store.. so me X 100k older guys.. if they want to lose tens of millions in revenue.. go ahead and put a public kick option in. Because thats what will happen. People will rage quit. So you would quit the game because people would have the option to play how they want ? you would not have to play under the squads that have the option to kick, you could go freely play with the squads that doesnt have kick enabled? At the end of the day it would not have effect on your gameplay, and it would give us who wants it a possibility to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBloodySin Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, Itsmez said: So you would quit the game because people would have the option to play how they want ? you would not have to play under the squads that have the option to kick, you could go freely play with the squads that doesnt have kick enabled? At the end of the day it would not have effect on your gameplay, and it would give us who wants it a possibility to do so? If your "wanting to play how you want" includes #$&(%-y reasons to not want someone in the squad, you already are able to create your own pre-made group instead of opening it to the public. It's on you to filter who goes into your private group, not on others to deal with you wanting to be elitist in a public one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmez Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, xBloodySin said: If your "wanting to play how you want" includes #$&(%-y reasons to not want someone in the squad, you already are able to create your own pre-made group instead of opening it to the public. It's on you to filter who goes into your private group, not on others to deal with you wanting to be elitist in a public one. I dont have friends playing this game. And im at the age that i dont really make any friends online, i prefer to do that irl. I want to get rid of the griefers and afk'ers, thats why i want the kick system. Keep in mind im only mr16, i dont play the meta frames or weapons. Again having an option to have votekick or not would not hurt anyone. Everyone could play under the option they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmez Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Miser_able said: People aren't worried about kicked for being bad. People are worried about kicks being misused by petty people, like it is in any game with a kick system. "I don't like your choice of gun. Kick" "I don't want another nuker in my team. Kick" "you aren't willing to babysit me and support me with your items. Kick" "you don't want to camp this spot in Survival with me. Kick" "you are dealing more damage than me. Kick" "you are stealing my kills. Kick" "I don't like your name. Kick" "I don't like that you use your operator. Kick" The list goes on and on and on. And B: being rude without provocation gets you nowhere. This is a lesson you learn in the first grade. This is reality. Well anyways worried for whatever. The proposition was to have an option to your matchmaking. You could que into groups that has vote kick enabled, and you would have option to play without it. Everyone would be happy. And B: They did teach us religion on first grade too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodi1600 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Itsmez said: I dont have friends playing this game. And im at the age that i dont really make any friends online, i prefer to do that irl. I want to get rid of the griefers and afk'ers, thats why i want the kick system. Keep in mind im only mr16, i dont play the meta frames or weapons. Again having an option to have votekick or not would not hurt anyone. Everyone could play under the option they want That's contradicting, if you have a vote kick that means that people will play only under what you spec/want of them, I too had my fair share of bad teammates but still have a option to kick someone will be utterly abused, because we as people are kinda A******s with the ones we consider different in a way we don't like, this have happened in other media before and the result its always the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmez Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, prodi1600 said: That's contradicting, if you have a vote kick that means that people will play only under what you spec/want of them, I too had my fair share of bad teammates but still have a option to kick someone will be utterly abused, because we as people are kinda A******s with the ones we consider different in a way we don't like, this have happened in other media before and the result its always the same. How hard is it to understand, my main proposition was to have an option to be able to join in que with votekick enabled or you could join in normal que like we have right now. You could choose yourself do you have vote kick enabled or not. Everyone would be happy. Im not here to discuss the votekick itself, done it and its waste of time Edited December 30, 2019 by Itsmez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBloodySin Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, Itsmez said: I dont have friends playing this game. And im at the age that i dont really make any friends online, i prefer to do that irl. I want to get rid of the griefers and afk'ers, thats why i want the kick system. Keep in mind im only mr16, i dont play the meta frames or weapons. Again having an option to have votekick or not would not hurt anyone. Everyone could play under the option they want Unfortunately, it would hurt plenty. Warframe community is filled with unreasonable elitists who expect public groups to fill with mind-reading expert automatons who will only do exactly what they want, or you're garbage. Add to it how the community is also lazy, people would find it less trouble to create public groups and keep kicking, instead of advertising in Recruiting and forming a closed group. I'm fully with you about griefers and AFK'ers, I'm the sort who lets them die and who quits missions to force a host change if they get some drop they really wanted, but to deal with the small number of those you would create a list of problems for people who might just be new to the game. It's a case where the cure would be worse than the disease, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmez Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, xBloodySin said: Unfortunately, it would hurt plenty. Warframe community is filled with unreasonable elitists who expect public groups to fill with mind-reading expert automatons who will only do exactly what they want, or you're garbage. Add to it how the community is also lazy, people would find it less trouble to create public groups and keep kicking, instead of advertising in Recruiting and forming a closed group. I'm fully with you about griefers and AFK'ers, I'm the sort who lets them die and who quits missions to force a host change if they get some drop they really wanted, but to deal with the small number of those you would create a list of problems for people who might just be new to the game. It's a case where the cure would be worse than the disease, that's all. So basically youre saying people should not be allowed to play the way they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBloodySin Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, Itsmez said: So basically youre saying people should not be allowed to play the way they want? Of course not. Letting people "play how they want" means allowing them to use hacks and cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmez Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, xBloodySin said: Of course not. Letting people "play how they want" means allowing them to use hacks and cheats. Thats the worst example you could give, im not even going to say anything on it. So we have people who wants vote kick, and we have people who doesnt want it. We could either have an option where everyone is happy, both partys could play the game how they want. Or an option where only one party is happy But youre saying no which equals you dont want people to be able to play the game how they want, you want them to play the game how you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodi1600 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Itsmez said: How hard is it to understand, my main proposition was to have an option to be able to join in que with votekick enabled or you could join in normal que like we have right now. You could choose yourself do you have vote kick enabled or not. Everyone would be happy. Im not here to discuss the votekick itself, done it and its waste of time as you say this it's a waste of time, everyone will be demanding players to have it enable if not the player will mostly be bullied or even have all party members abandon the party its the same thing, people are bad with each other if given the opportunity, specially in internet where the lack of accountability related with not having to use your face promotes people to behave poorly compared to real life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBloodySin Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, Itsmez said: Thats the worst example you could give, im not even going to say anything on it. So we have people who wants vote kick, and we have people who doesnt want it. We could either have an option where everyone is happy, both partys could play the game how they want. Or an option where only one party is happy But youre saying no which equals you dont want people to be able to play the game how they want, you want them to play the game how you want What you asked had nothing to do with the subject, don't whine because you received an answer on the same level. The ability to vote kick has nothing to do with "allowing to play how they want." It's a game feature, which happens to not be in the game, for reasons people mention on a daily basis. Expecting DE to create two public queues, one for people who want to kick and one for those who don't, is absurd. I'd rather they used that time to make a Sugatra I'll never use. You are perfectly capable of playing the game how you want - solo, in a public group, in a friends group, with Dojo people, with a recruited group. You just don't get to kick people out, because Warframe's community has more than shown that it would be misused, not just to remove people who are AFK or griefing. It's hilarious that you try to frame this as I "wanting people to play how I want," when you are wanting to shove an abuseable kick option down the throat of either the players - if it's a global thing - or DE - if it's this ridiculous "double-public." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test-995 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I'm so happy DE wouldn't even bother to implement such feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmez Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, xBloodySin said: What you asked had nothing to do with the subject, don't whine because you received an answer on the same level. The ability to vote kick has nothing to do with "allowing to play how they want." It's a game feature, which happens to not be in the game, for reasons people mention on a daily basis. Expecting DE to create two public queues, one for people who want to kick and one for those who don't, is absurd. I'd rather they used that time to make a Sugatra I'll never use. You are perfectly capable of playing the game how you want - solo, in a public group, in a friends group, with Dojo people, with a recruited group. You just don't get to kick people out, because Warframe's community has more than shown that it would be misused, not just to remove people who are AFK or griefing. It's hilarious that you try to frame this as I "wanting people to play how I want," when you are wanting to shove an abuseable kick option down the throat of either the players - if it's a global thing - or DE - if it's this ridiculous "double-public." Im not framing anything. its pretty clear in itself. At the end of the day, i want an option where both parties can be happy and play how they want Edited December 30, 2019 by Itsmez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBloodySin Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, Itsmez said: Im not framing anything. its pretty clear in itself. If you want to call not wanting a new, worse breed of griefers to be created by adding the ability to kick as "not wanting you to play how you want," whatever. I don't want you to play the way you want, Itsmez. Now you have it official. Print and hang on your wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmez Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, xBloodySin said: If you want to call not wanting a new, worse breed of griefers to be created by adding the ability to kick as "not wanting you to play how you want," whatever. I don't want you to play the way you want, Itsmez. Now you have it official. Print and hang on your wall. We have gone this over and over, you would not have to play with those "griefers" if you wish not to, that was the whole point. It would be an option where everyone could be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxity Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 We don't have a kick function because there are people who are convinced it'd be far, far worse than the current trolls and leeches. Honestly, my suggestion is to set yourself to invite/friends only and roll from there. So much more enjoyable that way, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helch0rn Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Itsmez said: I dont have friends playing this game. And im at the age that i dont really make any friends online, i prefer to do that irl. open the recruiting chat and write "Hosting [insert whatever you want to play], Need [insert whatever you want in your group]. No afk'ers!" no friends needed 1 hour ago, Itsmez said: I want to get rid of the griefers and afk'ers, thats why i want the kick system. and you sould create a p erfect enviornment for people to be kicked for the most stupid reasons 1 hour ago, Itsmez said: Keep in mind im only mr16, i dont play the meta frames or weapons. this means elitists would probably try to kick you, because you don't conform to their meta only mindset 1 hour ago, Itsmez said: Again having an option to have votekick or not would not hurt anyone. Everyone could play under the option they want as I said above: you not using the flavor of the month Meta would make you a target for the elitists. in conclusion:I wonder how you would react if the system you want would be abused against you for the most stupid reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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