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FPS Drops, Stutters, Cursor Latency and General Lag Inside Orbiter

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I don't know what changed with the last couple updates, but the performance of the game has tanked considerably. Inside my Orbiter I regularly experience frame rate drops, freezes and stuttering. When using menus there is noticeable input lag with the cursor to a point where I'm constantly clicking on the wrong menu item. I don't know how it's possible, but the game seems to run worse inside my Orbiter then out in a mission.

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I have gotten this with the past one or two updates myself. I was going to make a post about it, but I see you are also getting it.Its not just orbitor if I recall.

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My fps tanks in the Orbiter every 1-2 mins for a couple seconds since the last patch.  Game runs fine though.

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yep micro freezez on the orbiter when open some menus/options/aresenal etc.. performance and fps still dropping since 2019 summer on every patch 😑

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Same for me. I have 144fps (144hz refresh monitor) on Orbiter, tanks to 90 then back to 144 every min or so, maybe less. Especially noticeble when in the arsenal and only started occuring since the last hotfix...

On 2020-02-20 at 1:19 AM, Matheoryon said:

Its not just orbitor if I recall.

It's also while board the Railjack not in mission (same issue as the Orbiter) while opening the Tactical menu in a mission causes lag and stuttering.

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Same issue, lagging inside orbiter and while messing around in the arsenal.

i think it started with the last hotfix, I don't recall it being like this before.

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Not that its new, but P.O.E is doing this but only far worse going from 72 to 144 with a very nauseating stutter in between. the only cure for it is literally turning off vsync.

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On 2020-02-19 at 6:43 PM, Flex238 said:

the game seems to run worse inside my Orbiter then out in a mission

How many items in your foundry are ready to claim?
There is an old bug where too many ready to claim might drop FPS in Orbiter and Relay. The login screen and missions will stay as high FPS.
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1136164-high-count-of-unclaimed-foundry-items-causes-very-bad-performance-in-liset-hubs/

 

10 hours ago, Matheoryon said:

P.O.E is doing this but only far worse going from 72 to 144 with a very nauseating stutter in between. the only cure for it is literally turning off vsync.

Switchable / hybrid graphics (render GPU on PCI-E GPU, output on integrated GPU) is the way to go with Vsync on.
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1159245-vsync-smooth-afr-glitch/
Triple buffer in game option may also work, but too bad this option is missing from Warframe and is always only double buffering. Can't force triple buffering on, except by using switchable graphics then it behaves like triple buffering Vsync.

If unsure how triple buffering works, there are videos that shows how that works. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=triple+buffering

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9 hours ago, sam686 said:

How many items in your foundry are ready to claim?
There is an old bug where too many ready to claim might drop FPS in Orbiter and Relay. The login screen and missions will stay as high FPS.
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1136164-high-count-of-unclaimed-foundry-items-causes-very-bad-performance-in-liset-hubs/

 

Switchable / hybrid graphics (render GPU on PCI-E GPU, output on integrated GPU) is the way to go with Vsync on.
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1159245-vsync-smooth-afr-glitch/
Triple buffer in game option may also work, but too bad this option is missing from Warframe and is always only double buffering. Can't force triple buffering on, except by using switchable graphics then it behaves like triple buffering Vsync.

If unsure how triple buffering works, there are videos that shows how that works. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=triple+buffering

The last few updates did something to screw with optimized flip. It works in the rest of the game just, but it doesnt work anymore on POE. Fast sync works, but its kind of hard to look at in another way. Turn off Optimization flip if you want smoothness with vsync, or turn off vsync if you want fps.

I dont spend enough time on the vallis to remember, but from what I have done recently, it all appears the same as with poe.

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Same problem since the last update. Every minute or so, I'll get a second or 2 of stuttering. 144Hz Monitor with frame rate capped at 120 in game V-Sync off. Even just sitting there doing nothing but watching the animated background in the Market/Warframes.

My friend (in voice chat) is getting the same stutters at the exact same moment as I do. I'm in MI., She is in NJ.

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+1, noticed it too. In missions its usually OK, but orbiter gets massive hitching every minute or so. Thank god im not alone, tought its my hardware failing :D

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Same issue here, and it annoys me, with another bug aswell, when u forexample just change regions the graphic settings / lights comes more invisible/too bright, so you need to relog to fix it everytime. 

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10 hours ago, ARKANOiiDe said:

Thank god im not alone, thought its my hardware failing 😄

Me too. At first my friend said she was not getting stutter so I blamed my set up and changed drivers, settings, disabled some Windows services, etc. etc. etc. for nothing. 😡

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On 2020-02-22 at 6:13 AM, sam686 said:

How many items in your foundry are ready to claim?
There is an old bug where too many ready to claim might drop FPS in Orbiter and Relay. The login screen and missions will stay as high FPS.

I'm MR 28, I don't build much of anything these days, maybe a forma here and there. This lag is a recent addition, it must have been introduced within the last couple patches because I've never noticed it before a few weeks ago.

 

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On 2020-02-21 at 7:29 PM, Matheoryon said:

Not that its new, but P.O.E is doing this but only far worse going from 72 to 144 with a very nauseating stutter in between. the only cure for it is literally turning off vsync.

I've tried turning vsync off/on and changing other settings and nothing gets rid of it. It comes and goes like every 30-60 seconds and when it hits my frames drop below 60fps.

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yeah i get stutters sometimes too! My guess is a recent patch broke something!

Cos i didn't changed anything hardware-wise in my computer for quite a while now.

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i have witnessed (and not alone) similar behavior, basically hosting a mission causes massive lag for host(only if there's other players in same mission) i found some interesting data in the log file
"4171.470 Net [Error]: Discarding packet with invalid signature from: XXXXXXXXXXX"
got many of these, suggesting the netcode between host and client is broken
host would have around 1-3 fps 95% of the time while other players in some cases experienced massive enemy teleportation, both normal missions and railjack.

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4 hours ago, Flex238 said:

I've tried turning vsync off/on and changing other settings and nothing gets rid of it. It comes and goes like every 30-60 seconds and when it hits my frames drop below 60fps.

Next thing to do is to turn off optimization flip. Or have you done that along with this?

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I'm having the same problem, it didn't exist before

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if its ONLY on orbiter i suggest you post your hardware(cpu,gpu,etc if possible let us know when you last updated drivers)   it sounds hardware specific, since this is the first i've heard of orbiter lag.

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Nah, pretty sure this is server side. It just started with one of the last 2 patches. My friend and I get the same stutter at the same moment when grouped or not. I have AMD Ryzen 5 2600, she has older Intel Core i-3 6100. We're in different locations, with different internet providers. We both get it in the orbiter, and seem fine in missions. Seems to be almost like clockwork every 1 minute we get a second or 2 of stutter/hitching, sort of like when a new player loads into a mission.

I suspected Discord may have caused at first, but we both get it when not running Discord as well.

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I can agree I am now noticing very micro stutters on board the Orbiter while shuffling through various menus. It seems to happen upon opening and closing the menus for me. Particularly Arsenal and Navigation. The stuttering for me at least is minor and it doesn't show frames dropping when it happens. I thought it was my hardware which is why I came through to see in the forum if others are having the same thing occur seems so so I'm glad it isn't just me.

-February 24, 2020

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