(PSN)SouthSideSwanga Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 I don’t understand why this isn’t a thing. I know people say it gets abused, but I don’t see that actually happening or anything different happening if it’s added. There’s not many times where I run missions with randoms and it’s only when they’d benefit me, but then they almost always become an unnecessary inconvenience. For example, say I’m going into a relic mission with one friend and we go public to get extra relics. When we get done, sometimes the randoms leave right away and sometimes they linger. Whatever reason they linger for doesn’t matter. The thing that makes it annoying is when they just do stuff like selecting another mission or going afk without saying anything. Very rarely do lingering randoms ask before starting a mission and going afk while still in a public squad is just plain bad manners. The only way to get rid of them is migrating the host and reforming the squad, which is exactly the same as kicking people. The way I see it is that giving the host the option to would be just a quality of life improvement. The potential for abuse is outweighed by the convenience of not having to migrate the host imo since if you’re gonna kick someone, then you’ll just migrate the host anyway and reform the squad without them. If people don’t like the host kicking, then how about an option to toggle keeping friends in the squad and randoms would load out of missions in their own squad if toggled on while you’re the host. That’s the only other thing I can think of off the top of my head to avoid lingering randoms. One last thing. If you’re gonna say something like I shouldn’t do public matches if I don’t want randoms, then reread my post more thoroughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)C11H22O11 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Leave and invite the people you want to stay is very effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felsagger Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, (XB1)C11H22O11 said: Leave and invite the people you want to stay is very effective This. And you have options such as Invite Only, friends only and Solo. Use this and evade public PUGs. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SouthSideSwanga Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 Being able to kick people is equally effective and more convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felsagger Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, (PS4)SouthSideSwanga said: Being able to kick people is equally effective and more convenient. Evade possible issues instead of remedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Well technically since its not in mission it could not be abused much. That being said it would be better than just leaving and reinviting when a tenno say he wants to leave but you dont want to have disband classic issue of tenno not willing to accept invites to say in a group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SouthSideSwanga Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Felsagger said: Evade possible issues instead of remedy. Ok, how do you suggest I do missions with randoms and avoid randoms staying in my squad without migrating the host? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felsagger Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, (PS4)SouthSideSwanga said: Ok, how do you suggest I do missions with randoms and avoid randoms staying in my squad without migrating the host? Make friends? Join a clan? Socialize? Your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SouthSideSwanga Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, Felsagger said: Make friends? Join a clan? Socialize? Your choice. How do any of those fix my situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felsagger Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 If you are with friends and two randoms refuses to leave, simply break squad and invite your friends again. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SouthSideSwanga Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Felsagger said: If you are with friends and two randoms refuses to leave, simply break squad and invite your friends again. Simple. That’s the very thing I don’t want to do though. Kicking people is a much more convenient option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Madurai-Prime Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 "but I don’t see that actually happening or anything different happening" Well you see wrong, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DissentWomble Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Its a decent feature to have to be honest. But the current method of everyone else leaving, reinvite and making a new party works.. albeit a little annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)CaligulaTwily Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Even that craphole Fallout 76 has "kick team mate" features, why not here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SouthSideSwanga Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, (PS4)Madurai-Prime said: "but I don’t see that actually happening or anything different happening" Well you see wrong, then. If people are gonna kick someone, then they’re just gonna disband and reform the squad without the people they would have kicked if the host could kick people. The same people who would abuse that feature can already basically do that by disbanding and reforming the squad and yet there doesn’t seem to be an issue with people abusing that. People who disband a squad usually do it for a reason like someone going afk or trying to force a mission. Any increase in abuse would be minimal the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SouthSideSwanga Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Yagamilight123 said: There is no "evade" ... if you are making a group asking for "x" things and someone ends up not having it or similar there is no way to kick him ... you need to regroup . This thread its not for " evade public PUGs" , its for making your own group :S . Exactly. It’s so annoying when I go into recruit chat and one of the people I find isn’t prepared. The only option is to disband and reform, which gets really annoying if you have to do it multiple times in a row and waste time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Madurai-Prime Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, (PS4)SouthSideSwanga said: If people are gonna kick someone, then they’re just gonna disband and reform the squad without the people they would have kicked if the host could kick people. The same people who would abuse that feature can already basically do that by disbanding and reforming the squad and yet there doesn’t seem to be an issue with people abusing that. People who disband a squad usually do it for a reason like someone going afk or trying to force a mission. Any increase in abuse would be minimal the way I see it. Cool, so there's no reason to add a kick, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brosef42 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 GW2 and FF 14 has had this feature for years and never been a problem. How is it any more likely to be abused? Is the player base more toxic. No. So quit acting like if you gave us a kick button. Everyone's lives would be ruined. It's even less of a problem in this game. You can instantly find a new party at any point. You don't even have the same need to LFG as you would those games. 99% percent of this game can be done solo. While the other 1% is still abled to be solo in the right build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ForNoPurpose Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Brosef42 said: No. idk, i can see people playing Limbo getting kicked for simply playing Limbo. I know many who would proudly admit this is what they would do. Toxic enough imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)CaligulaTwily Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, (PS4)ForNoPurpose said: idk, i can see people playing Limbo getting kicked for simply playing Limbo. I know many who would proudly admit this is what they would do. Toxic enough imo. I would absolutely kick Limbo, zero hesitation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brosef42 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Me: This game isn't toxic. Random 9 year old: Hold my Gatorade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SouthSideSwanga Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, (PS4)Madurai-Prime said: Cool, so there's no reason to add a kick, then. Actually it’s more like there’s no reason not to add a kick option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SouthSideSwanga Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, (PS4)ForNoPurpose said: idk, i can see people playing Limbo getting kicked for simply playing Limbo. I know many who would proudly admit this is what they would do. Toxic enough imo. That’s why it would be limited to just the orbiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godmode_Ash Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Brosef42 said: GW2 and FF 14 has had this feature for years and never been a problem. How is it any more likely to be abused? Is the player base more toxic. No. So quit acting like if you gave us a kick button. Everyone's lives would be ruined. It's even less of a problem in this game. You can instantly find a new party at any point. You don't even have the same need to LFG as you would those games. 99% percent of this game can be done solo. While the other 1% is still abled to be solo in the right build. Both GW2 and FF14 has gear check and players regularly kicking the other players if they don't meet requirement. I know this because we used to kick people if they don't have perfect gear/tactic when we were farming Extreme Titan. Because any mistake can wipe the entire raid. It matters who you bringing to the raid. On the other hand, Warframe is a casual game and there is nothing wrong with it. If you add the kicking feature, some people will definitely abuse it. Alot of people are ignorant, they just like to complain for the sake of complaining. It's a human depravity that people like to poke the others on the internet. They watch some Youtube meta build and they think they know everything. Then they started accusing others and try to tell others how to play. They can bring up your warframes, weapons, or even MR. For example, sortie is easy so I like to bring un-ranked weapon to get some free EXP. And sometimes I run into idiots asking why I am not bring my full setup. (Because I don't need to, sortie are jokes and I never fail) But if a simple sortie mission, people can get compulsive about it. What do you think people's attitude will become if you give them the power to kick? If you care about your teammate's setup, GO TO RECRUITMENT. Public games should be free and should not have rule to be force upon. So there shouldn't be any reason you want to kick random players in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felsagger Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Yagamilight123 said: There is no "evade" ... if you are making a group asking for "x" things and someone ends up not having it or similar there is no way to kick him ... you need to regroup . This thread its not for " evade public PUGs" , its for making your own group :S . You answered your own question. When you make your own group you know your people. That throws away the possibility of leeches and trolls. People are committed to one goal. Hence evade first instead of remedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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