noveltyhero Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If anybody knows please enlighten me :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Artarrwen Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 She doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demo102 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 She doesn't. ^ People just whine because they didn't get their trinity/volt primes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgax Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) People associate Tenno council with forum founder council, hence created by council. Thus created after orokin era, and can't exist in the past. From my understanding this what boggles them. Personally given the lack of lore it is fine if DE does whatever it wants. Edited December 9, 2014 by Morgax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 She doesn't. Pretty much. I'm sure someone is gonna mention the Tenno Council to try and say that Nova was only recently made and thus Nova Prime breaks the lore, buuuut... we've never been told when exactly the Tenno Council existed. It's fully possible it was around during the Orokin era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifted Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) We barely know anything about Tenno Council. We don't know whether they existed in orokin era, whether they exist now or whether they didn't exist at all and are only a wink-wink towards DC. However, judging by how DE focused on "COUNCIL" on the teaser page, I'm only expecting there's gonna be some light shed on it, possibly in Nova Prime's codex entry. TL;DR Let DE explain themselves before you post rage threads Edited December 9, 2014 by Shifted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark5eiD Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 from what i understand. primes are supposed to be ancient versions of current frames. nova is a lab experiment basically. there shouldnt be an ancient version. but recently they have been rewriting lore anyways so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)IIIDevoidIII Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Pretty much. I'm sure someone is gonna mention the Tenno Council to try and say that Nova was only recently made and thus Nova Prime breaks the lore, buuuut... we've never been told when exactly the Tenno Council existed. It's fully possible it was around during the Orokin era. Exactly. It fits lore on all vague points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNonApplicable Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I was under the impression Tenno were controlled pre cryo sleep which led to them rebelling and killing the orokin council. This was the act that the low guardian (stalker) witnessed and is why the tenno are called betrayers. Back on topic, given that these tenno were basically controlled super soldiers experimented on by the orokin empire, it seems more likely a tenno council came into being under lotus, rather than under the orokin empire's reign. This is why people are using the Tenno council argument for the shift in continuity. At least as far as I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexlars Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The lore says she was created by a High Tenno Council so people assume that she was created during this current time period. There are 2 options: A.) This Tenno Council existed during the time where the Orokin were alive & created her then. or B.) She was indeed created in this time period by the Tenno Council, but based off the Prime version. Meaning, their was always a Prime version but the Nova we always knew was just recently created. Either way, Nova Prime doesn't break the lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverton Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Idk you can't say it breaks lore when the game is so damn vague on everything. Are we the bad guys or good guys? Are we humans in a suit or are we moving suits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letir Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 We don't even have lore in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dama73 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Nova Prime is in no way Lore breaking since technically all the current Warframes were made by back engineering the Original Prime versions made by the Orokin. Basically the standard non prime frames are kind of like the mass production versions of the originals. So maybe Nova was simply the latest one (at the time) to be produced based off of a Prime Frame. Besides you guys seem to be forgetting that DE can re-write their Lore as they see fit. Edited December 9, 2014 by Nova73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezues Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 It's because a lot of people think that the Tenno High Council and the Tenno Design Council are the same thing. People are just butthurt because nova came out back in update 9.0 and they think that DE made some promise to do them in order when in fact they did quite the opposite. It's basically because people want Trinity Prime, Ash Prime, and Volt Prime and think that they've been cheated out of them. It really comes down to the people that think their favorite warframe should be the next prime and then they flip the arguement and say "Oh you only got Nova Prime because you like her the most you stupid fanboys!" When in the end they are using the same that exact same logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 She absolutely doesn't, people are clinging to notions of the past (which are wrong). This is basically segregation on a minor scale level where some people just don't want Nova drinking from the Prime water fountains because that goes against what they were "raised to believe". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenousPartyLibrarian Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Friendly reminder that all mentions of the tenno council has been completely removed from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katinka Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 nova is a lab experiment basically. Uh... What? Are you confusing her with Valkyr because I don't remember anything about Nova to do with experiments or labs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Uh... What? Are you confusing her with Valkyr because I don't remember anything about Nova to do with experiments or labs. And that's not even technically true of Valkyr either, since she was experimented on but is not the result of an experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark5eiD Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Uh... What? Are you confusing her with Valkyr because I don't remember anything about Nova to do with experiments or labs. this is from wiki "According to Nova's profile, her Warframe was a result of Tenno High Council research, implying that she could possibly be a recently developed Warframe. This makes her and, possibly, Valkyr the only Warframes that are made in the current time period, after the Old Orokin War." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katinka Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) That hardly makes her a lab experiment. Hell, Zephyr is a result of clan 'research'. Is she a lab experiment too? Take note of the repeated use of 'possibly' in that wiki quote and remember that it is a fan made page and may contain opinions and conjecture. EDIT:@Kestrel9999 Yup, your right. Edited December 9, 2014 by Katinka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenousPartyLibrarian Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 this is from wiki "According to Nova's profile, her Warframe was a result of Tenno High Council research, implying that she could possibly be a recently developed Warframe. This makes her and, possibly, Valkyr the only Warframes that are made in the current time period, after the Old Orokin War." Friendly reminder that all mentions of the tenno council has been completely removed from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark5eiD Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 That hardly makes her a lab experiment. Hell, Zephyr is a result of clan 'research'. Is she a lab experiment too? Take note of the repeated use of 'possibly' in that wiki quote and remember that it is a fan made page and may contain opinions and conjecture. EDIT:@Kestrel9999 Yup, your right. im not arguing your points. but this is literally all that we have to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Crixus044 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) i don't think a primed nova breaks lore. Prime warframes are basically the original versions of the regular warframes, which were made using orokin tech because they were made in the orokin era. As long as we have the blueprints and orokin tech, we can make a prime version of any warframe for tenno to make themselves, sort of like homemade rifle vs. special production rifle. That's why we need to go to the void to get prime parts and blueprints. Because that's were the orokin tech is. It is probable that the original designed nova was made using orokin tech as all original warframes were, and the mass produced regular version was released to the tenno, which is why we find those. The reason why we wouldn't be able to find nova prime blueprints in orokin void missions is because she was made after orokin era, so left over blueprints cannot be found by orokin and thus would require a special gift from the lotus from a special mission (new special quest like mirage and limbo?). The only warframe that i can't see possible for being primed is Valkyr, which was made by Alad V as part of the Zanuka Project, thus her unfinished/exposed look especially in the helmet. A Nova Prime is just as possible as any other primed warframe, though not as a regular void mission find. Edited December 17, 2014 by (PS4)Crixus044 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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