Chub_N_Tuck Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 T1 Cap seems too common. Like, in many excavation missions too, I see too many T1 Cap. Maybe just my feeling, but I see it way too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLucifer Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) T4 Sabotage, T2 Sabotage, T2 Mobile Defense. Edited January 15, 2015 by SaintLucifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If this was the first implementation of syndicate key rewards, would people still think it was a waste of rep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasglow Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) This 25k pack is like, not worth your rep. It gives 3 random garbage keys most of the time. Should have been 4 random keys, one of each tier 1/2/3/4. Edited January 15, 2015 by Glasglow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrippleFighterX Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) And in my case because I find it completely reasonable in terms of cost. I agree. I realize that the keys themselves are not endgame content but they lead you to it. As such they should not just rain out of the sky like skittles on Marshawn Lynch. That being said I did buy up a **** ton of keys before they stopped the whole sale. hmmmm skittles. Edited January 15, 2015 by CrippleFighterX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowBear Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) *pff* DE just put RNG within RNG, the old key system is far better, I feel like just get scammed Edited January 15, 2015 by HollowBear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiryuKazu Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Umm waiter ... excuse me... there's RNG on my Keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnal Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 You don't know what 'random' means in Warframe, do you? It means a completely random number is generated, which is then used to look up a weighted entry in a loot table :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havikryan Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 will have to play for about 2 weeks first before I will get enough standing to even be able to buy 1 of those key packs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kireek_ Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 What if the packs are weighted depending on your Syndicate? You don't include that as a variable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husla Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 All the people saying it's not worth the rep, did you think for a second. They might have all the items they need in said syndicate? Also, if you're displeased with them doing so, this thread isn't for you. It's a contribution not a in my opinion blah blah blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Alex_Traffo Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Now this is interesting. And the results appear to be quite balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyGorgon Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Now this is interesting. And the results appear to be quite balanced. If you think that weighted randomness is balanced, then yes. I haven't seen any one getting something above T2 on the two "random" keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fari Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Oooh. T3 survival was actually the rarest among the previous submissions? That's what I got, and two defense keys, 2 and 1. If you think that weighted randomness is balanced, then yes.I haven't seen any one getting something above T2 on the two "random" keys. U wot, the two keys can't go above T2, one key is guaranteed to be 3 or 4, the other two are guaranteed to be 1 or 2. Did you even read what it says? Edited January 15, 2015 by NearoC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Alex_Traffo Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If you think that weighted randomness is balanced, then yes. I haven't seen any one getting something above T2 on the two "random" keys. Well that was expected honestly, I'm talking about a good variety on T3/T4 keys. And, on a side note, I'm one of those who voted null on the poll, so I'm not ok with this addition, but still I was fearing of getting craptons of the same T3 key and so on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesthetic_Dialectic Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I bought around five of them, I got at least 3 T4 keys. I think that they may have a 50-50 split for T4 keys, but I don't have enough data to back this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyGorgon Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 U wot, the two keys can't go above T2, one key is guaranteed to be 3 or 4, the other two are guaranteed to be 1 or 2. Did you even read what it says? Look at the vote we had and tell where it says that in the post, it clearly stated 1 T3-4 and two random, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymerc Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Should have been 5k for a random t4. Sorry, no. The rarest Void Key should not be that easy to obtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousArmadillo Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 T3 survival, T1 exterminate, T2 sabotage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasglow Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If you think that weighted randomness is balanced, then yes. I haven't seen any one getting something above T2 on the two "random" keys. Because you don't? Do you even read the patch notes? You get two random T1/2 keys, and ONE random T3 or T4 key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SancticuS Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 T1 Cap seems too common. Like, in many excavation missions too, I see too many T1 Cap. Maybe just my feeling, but I see it way too often. This is no surprise. Random keys would be heavily weighted towards T1 Cap and T2 survival in my experience. Even though the data collected so far is not big enough to conclude anything we still have a little indication. T1 Cap well worth 25k rep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Why do you need to test, it says explicitly: you get a single good key randomly and a couple of t1/t2 (that everyone has in spades). For the hefty 25k rep. You voted for it yourself - enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Why do you need to test, it says explicitly: you get a single good key randomly and a couple of t1/t2 (that everyone has in spades). For the hefty 25k rep. You voted for it yourself - enjoy. I voted for neither option, because they both sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I voted for neither option, because they both sucked. Yes they were both pretty bad. But the other one had a known T4 key for 10k cheaper. Yet people preferred to pay much more for randomness and 2 common keys (that you get almost every 5 minutes from ODS/ODD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONiMETSU_Z Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If this was the first implementation of syndicate key rewards, would people still think it was a waste of rep? Probably. What would have went different is that people would have just avoided it to begin with and then used it as a basis for why syndicates are so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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