[DE]Rebecca Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I am very confused as to how this is such a big issue here development side. The problem is the lack of a "Return to default" colours button on the UI. "Return to default" code must exist because such a button exists for warframe customization. I think you just added to your own confusion LOL! Making assumptions like 'must exist for scenario B' and such will undoubtedly create a confusion spiral because you are overlooking several factors. Warframes/Weapons are customizable have 'Return to Default' Cosmetics are customizable Cosmetics should have 'Return to Default' Easy to state and logically deduce, way harder to do in practice when time and resources are a factor. "Putting a button on the UI" != Code and Database support for color customization where none exists. Warframes have this code & database support. Most other things (armor) do not (yet!). TL;DR Please be patient and know that the rate to identify problems/propose solutions/deliver feedback will always be faster than our ability to diagnose, fix, and deploy changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shafilp Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 TL;DR Please be patient and know that the rate to identify problems/propose solutions/deliver feedback will always be faster than our ability to diagnose, fix, and deploy changes. Well if DE won't throw the feedback away, as long as DE still keep doing to fix this that will be glad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibernetika Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I think you just added to your own confusion LOL! Making assumptions like 'must exist for scenario B' and such will undoubtedly create a confusion spiral because you are overlooking several factors. Warframes/Weapons are customizable have 'Return to Default' Cosmetics are customizable Cosmetics should have 'Return to Default' Easy to state and logically deduce, way harder to do in practice when time and resources are a factor. "Putting a button on the UI" != Code and Database support for color customization where none exists. Warframes have this code & database support. Most other things (armor) do not (yet!). TL;DR Please be patient and know that the rate to identify problems/propose solutions/deliver feedback will always be faster than our ability to diagnose, fix, and deploy changes. we will be patient and yes we know you are aware of the problem since day one of Nova Prime... but please don't make it waiting for HL3 patient.. also in the mean time to spare some of use this PBR problem, don't add any of the other Primes on the list till the problem is fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) we will be patient and yes we know you are aware of the problem since day one of Nova Prime... but please don't make it waiting for HL3 patient.. also in the mean time to spare some of use this PBR problem, don't add any of the other Primes on the list till the problem is fixed Why? The Frames and the Weapons will be fine. What won't be fine will be the Syandanas, Armors and Sugatras. Edited February 11, 2015 by NightmareT12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I think you just added to your own confusion LOL! Making assumptions like 'must exist for scenario B' and such will undoubtedly create a confusion spiral because you are overlooking several factors. Warframes/Weapons are customizable have 'Return to Default' Cosmetics are customizable Cosmetics should have 'Return to Default' Easy to state and logically deduce, way harder to do in practice when time and resources are a factor. "Putting a button on the UI" != Code and Database support for color customization where none exists. Warframes have this code & database support. Most other things (armor) do not (yet!). TL;DR Please be patient and know that the rate to identify problems/propose solutions/deliver feedback will always be faster than our ability to diagnose, fix, and deploy changes. Ahh cool, of course we'll wait, got U16 to deal with first eh?, but glad your altest paying some attention to it, that gives me my hope back. So whats excaly, happing, are you changing something or adding something like a new color pack or giveing us an new color slot for metal colors like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedCrusade Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 we will be patient and yes we know you are aware of the problem since day one of Nova Prime... but please don't make it waiting for HL3 patient.. also in the mean time to spare some of use this PBR problem, don't add any of the other Primes on the list till the problem is fixedJokes on you, Valve said they're not making a third one.On topic; I think I'm honestly fine with how the armor is now. I can finally have cool armor that doesn't clash with things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibernetika Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Why? The Frames and the Weapons will be fine. What won't be fine will be the Syandanas, Armors and Sugatras. slot 4 is the reason suddenly my gold is gone... now I have to colour slot 4 for gold, but oh slot 4 was the blue for my colour scheme and now I have to redo my whole colour scheme since since what was blue is now yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibernetika Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Jokes on you, Valve said they're not making a third one. On topic; I think I'm honestly fine with how the armor is now. I can finally have cool armor that doesn't clash with things. gabe said their not working on it at the moment due to other current projects never said its cancelled... so yes that is coming.. just not soon.. same as the fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure.M Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Can you correctly guess which one's the Orokin Gold hue, and which one is the 'cheap knock-off'? I went looking through my screenshots folder for some pre-update Latron Prime: I have to conclude it's a trick question, both of yours are the "cheap knock-off". This is the only shot I could find of it actually in the arsenal (so it has the same lighting). It's not very good, but you can see the gold. It's a better picture of Latron Prime than it is of Vaykor Marelok. How am I meant to paint it like that, Banshee? Prime Gold glows with Orokin power: The PBR stuff doesn't, it's just normal metal. I haven't really decided whether I prefer that or not yet, but it's definitely different and I can understand people who paid $50 for glowy armour wanting it back. And there's also the issue with accessories of tint 4 affecting all your attachments and not just the Prime ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Jokes on you, Valve said they're not making a third one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Prime Gold glows with Orokin power: Wow, where are you in the void?, that floor looks very cool and wait prime gold glows with orokin power wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 prime gold glows with orokin power That was a joke. Up until now prime gold has not reacted to lighting changes, so when you were in a dark area it looked like the gold was glowing due to the fact that the gold used the same reflection map no matter the light level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure.M Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Wow, where are you in the void?, that floor looks very cool and wait prime gold glows with orokin power wut? It's the extraction room. There are the long stairs up to the Liset docks, and I'm hiding under the opposite stairs which lead to the cylindrical door. And my Warframe isn't black, you just can't see it because it's so dark. The only things that you can see are the channelling energy and the gold. Because Prime gold is so shiny it reflects light that isn't even there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) That was a joke. Edited February 11, 2015 by LegionCynex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 It's the extraction room. There are the long stairs up to the Liset docks, and I'm hiding under the opposite stairs which lead to the cylindrical door. And my Warframe isn't black, you just can't see it because it's so dark. The only things that you can see are the channelling energy and the gold. Because Prime gold is so shiny it reflects light that isn't even there. Ahhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trowicia Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Prime Gold glows with Orokin power: The PBR stuff doesn't, it's just normal metal. I haven't really decided whether I prefer that or not yet, but it's definitely different and I can understand people who paid $50 for glowy armour wanting it back. And there's also the issue with accessories of tint 4 affecting all your attachments and not just the Prime ones. This is the kind of gold metal I prefer. In my opinion the metal for prime gear should be reverted but keep the customization bit available. It would be interesting to see different setups players make in dark environments like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siboreas Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I agree that having the metal tints a separate option rather than simply replacing a tint option already available is a good idea. Unlike some people, I like the gold, but don't want that color choice to affect other non-metal colors as well (eg. nova). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydian Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I have to conclude it's a trick question, both of yours are the "cheap knock-off". You using "color correction" or something? There's my Latron Prime, Wyrm Prime, and Bo Prime before the PBR update. Notice how they're more like his and less like yours making me think it's a settings difference. My Boltor Prime used to look like that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shafilp Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 just the Prime ones. Yep, this one I really want 'SHINY' primes gear back Didn't want them to revert to patch before < 15.13, just add some option or w/e to bring that back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure.M Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) You using "color correction" or something? There's my Latron Prime, Wyrm Prime, and Bo Prime before the PBR update. Notice how they're more like his and less like yours making me think it's a settings difference. My Boltor Prime used to look like that too. I apparently have color correction on, yes. I don't remember fiddling with it so isn't that the default, how the game is designed to look? Here's what my Latron Prime looks like now (with its colours reverted to default) on the same settings: Much duller than before the update. The gold looks kind of flat, it doesn't really stand out. It looks pretty much like his does. Your screenshots may look like a different colour but look how shiny they are. Especially that Wyrm. Edited February 12, 2015 by Azure.M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydian Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I apparently have color correction on, yes. I don't remember fiddling with it so isn't that the default, how the game is designed to look? Color correction is on by default, but it doesn't mean the results are how the game is supposed to look because it causes colors to change in certain situations/tilesets. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/388223-i-dont-see-how-you-guys-play-without-color-correction-on/#entry4282453 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/388223-i-dont-see-how-you-guys-play-without-color-correction-on/page-3#entry4282716 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/388223-i-dont-see-how-you-guys-play-without-color-correction-on/page-5#entry4283243 Here's what my Latron Prime looks like now (with its colours reverted to default) on the same settings: Much duller than before the update. The gold looks kind of flat, it doesn't really stand out. It looks pretty much like his does. Your screenshots may look like a different colour but look how shiny they are. Especially that Wyrm. Yup, for being metal parts the new material isn't shiny enough. Could use some brighter diffuse, assuming the PBR system even works like that. It's pretty matte right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kz.Prime Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 DErebecca have spoken . We have hope guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishmashmarsh Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 We have don it we have created a MEGA THREAD good they should actually notice it now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKDK Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Good job guys DE is aware of this. Hope we get what we all want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaRican Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Need a tint 5 for all prime gear so the primes don't lose customization, or a toggle in the options like with the legacy color palette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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