dendroaspis84 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I'm very disappointed after update 18 with Excalibur. It does these strange delays during his 4th skill, which is very unpleasant & as in seen in video I even fell down because of it. I used to love playing with Excalibur, loved it's fast blade strikes & now it's ruined with these delayed strikes. Please make it back like it was before update 18. Now I don't even have a desire to play with Excalibur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdunSaveMe Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) That's a combo/heavy attack you're doing. They didn't make any changes to Excalibur's normal mash. Seems more like an accidental charge attack. Edited December 12, 2015 by AdunSaveMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 those combos having always existed for EB... but there is a valid argument that they offer no benefit vs EEEEE spam atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88th_Phantom Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) After watching your video twice, i'd like to point out that the cause of you being downed was the small army of enemies shooting you in the back whilst you spammed towards and already emptied door. If your having other issues with Exalted Blade, the video doesn't really show them; nothing's changed between how the attacks project themselves. They became slower by triggering a combo sequence (holding E on first attack too long) is that what you are referring to? Is there a more specific reason this is a 'Disappointing' change or is disappointing just a strong word for a misunderstanding? EDIT: man, i'm sorry to be that guy, but you would forgo playing an entire warframe because of a theoretical change to the ability that (from the looks of the vid) is only a concern weighted by how well it does on Draco? Edited December 12, 2015 by -CM-Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawr1254 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Well to change it without completely nerfing the skill they gave a delay to the strike so count your blessings that the dmg wasnt nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyrannosauRayz Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 That's eb's own stance :/ nothings wrong with it. They haven't change exca at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdunSaveMe Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) After watching your video twice, i'd like to point out that the cause of you being downed was the small army of enemies shooting you in the back whilst you spammed towards and already emptied door. If your having other issues with Exalted Blade, the video doesn't really show them; nothing's changed between how the attacks project themselves. They became slower by triggering a combo sequence (holding E on first attack too long) is that what you are referring to? Is there a more specific reason this is a 'Disappointing' change or is disappointing just a strong word for a misunderstanding? What he's doing the whole time is mashing E, and at one point in the latter half of the video it stops and he does a delayed heavy strike. That's what he's referring to, which I'm starting to think is actually a bug. Multiple people have reported this. All of them have said it was happening just with normal E mashing, post-U18, which leads me to believe it's an issue caused by charge attacks. Just speculation, obviously, but DE themselves haven't made any changes and it's a very inconsistent problem, which makes it bug-like. Of course, they could all accidentally be performing a combo, which is just as likely. But there's been no mention of that before U18. Edited December 12, 2015 by AdunSaveMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyrannosauRayz Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Excalibur users LIKE ME (it's my main) let's just be happy that DE's didn't nerf the dmg.. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 melee charge is ruin mani combos... charge function need some new key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendroaspis84 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) I don't remember those delayed strikes before U 18. That's why I highlighted this thing. I don't know if it's bug or not, but without it playing game seems better. Maybe I don't want those delayed strikes... Edited December 12, 2015 by dendroaspis84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyrannosauRayz Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I don't remember those delayed strikes before U 18. That's why I highlighted this thing. I don't know if it's bug or not, but without it playing game seems better. Maybe I don't want those delayed strikes... It's not a bug :) That's eb's own combo/stance. Thats all im gnna say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendroaspis84 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Well to change it without completely nerfing the skill they gave a delay to the strike so count your blessings that the dmg wasnt nerfed. So they still ruined Excalibur... :| It's not a bug :) That's eb's own combo/stance. Thats all im gnna say It wasn't until U 18. Edited December 12, 2015 by dendroaspis84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendroaspis84 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) After watching your video twice, i'd like to point out that the cause of you being downed was the small army of enemies shooting you in the back whilst you spammed towards and already emptied door. If your having other issues with Exalted Blade, the video doesn't really show them; nothing's changed between how the attacks project themselves. They became slower by triggering a combo sequence (holding E on first attack too long) is that what you are referring to? Is there a more specific reason this is a 'Disappointing' change or is disappointing just a strong word for a misunderstanding? EDIT: man, i'm sorry to be that guy, but you would forgo playing an entire warframe because of a theoretical change to the ability that (from the looks of the vid) is only a concern weighted by how well it does on Draco? If not delayed strikes, I'd already kill them & had turned back to kill rest enemies. There's one specific reason: My excalibur wasn't doing those ***** delayed striked before U18. Forgot entire game? WTF are you talking about dude?! Edited December 12, 2015 by dendroaspis84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratego89 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 How about instead we change exalted blade so that you can't mash E for it's waves the entire game nonstop. Yeah? K, sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrifeSan Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 in the words of Souls games, gut good. u want a mindless press one button to win, go play Sakura Clicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsterwithin Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 If not delayed strikes, I'd already kill them & had turned back to kill rest enemies. There's one specific reason: My excalibur wasn't doing those ***** delayed striked before U18. Forgot entire game? WTF are you talking about dude?! Remember the rules, having "Respect" as first rule. But anyways, I don't see the problem with Excalibur, seems you went down, from enemy's shooting you from behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian_Legion Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 a lot of people have already said this but its the combos of exalted blade.... they are meant so you can control the angles of the waves and the hold combo attacks do more damage. your repeated response to the people explaining to you what is happening, in which you can't recognize it as anything else but a bug is a tad worrying. perhaps all you do is literally just spam e? not exactly sterling gameplay but to each their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendroaspis84 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Something's wrong with this community. They always oppose you, if you say anything negative with DE's decisions. I think it's time to leave this forum. I don't see point talking with blind fanboys which always agree with DE no matter what they do... Edited December 12, 2015 by dendroaspis84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsterwithin Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Something's wrong with this community. They always oppose you, if you say anything negative with DE's decisions. I think it's time to leave this forum. I don't see point talking with blind fanboys which always agree with DE no matter what they do... Also btw, I disagree with many things DE has done, but I don't bash them, they still are one of the best developers I know in video games. But if you can't handle peoples opinions / truth. Then that's on you. Edited December 12, 2015 by Monsterwithin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobtm Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 That combo shown in your video has, as it's been noted by others in this thread, always been a part of Exalted Blade since the beginning. I wonder if its timing window could've been tweaked by some of the changes made to reintroduce charge attacks. We already know the charge attack return had the unintended side-effect of creating an extreme delay on Glaives/Gunblades, so it's possible your newfound old combo too has had a timing shift. That's really all we can say at this point. It's uncertain whether there was a change or not and (as someone who basically never uses Excalibur) I can't accurately test the timings now compared to before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88th_Phantom Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Something's wrong with this community. They always oppose you, if you say anything negative with DE's decisions. I think it's time to leave this forum. I don't see point talking with blind fanboys which always agree with DE no matter what they do... well ok then, i remember asking you a question. i left it open for you to respond to at each area because there wasn't much that i (and apparently some others that responded) could gleam from the video. your response was to lash out. call fanboyism and disagree with anyone that would contrast your claim, that's understandable if you have bias. I also came in here with a bias as yet another 'Disappointment in DE' thread had popped up over a singular feature that 'destroys/ruins/breaks' their game with Draco as their example node of choice. since this can't stay sincere, i suppose we should wait for Danielle to do her thing and wait for a more productive thread that is capable of giving and receiving argument and feedback to pop up. alternatively, try this again yourself without blaming an entire community for not seeing your way. Edited December 12, 2015 by -CM-Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawr1254 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Something's wrong with this community. They always oppose you, if you say anything negative with DE's decisions. I think it's time to leave this forum. I don't see point talking with blind fanboys which always agree with DE no matter what they do... If it ain't broke don't fix it is a pretty good slogan but people in the forums don't realize that...There are hundreds of random rework this, nerf this, buff this, etc. that DONT need to happen. So YES we're gonna tell you if you're wrong or it just doesn't sounds good. Now don't get me wrong sometimes someone comes up with a great idea or a valid point and I will back them up 100% with w/e it may be. So don't think it's just a you thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsik-kun Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 those combos having always existed for EB... but there is a valid argument that they offer no benefit vs EEEEE spam atm Actually, I think there's a point in using them now. I think, there were some shadow EBlade changes in U18. I made a topic about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldisun Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) The way combos count "hold" attacks is way to sensitive now. Before u18, to perform the charge combo I actually had to hold down the key, but now the game cosiders certain clicks to be holds. I have gotten around this by binding my melee attack key to scroll wheel, but it just doesn't feel right to melee by wheel scroll. Hope they adjust it back to resonable hold time Edited December 12, 2015 by Aldisun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Locking this down as the thread has turned belligerent and become rife with disrespectful comments. While negative feedback is the best feedback when made respectfully (it helps identify what's wrong and proposes alternatives to improve things), making it with disrespectful comments ruins the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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