OzoneSlayer Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Come on DE. Is there a reason why equinox can change her abilities and have a real passive(equilibrium), and You choose to count Chroma changing elements as a passive? Chroma is my favorite Warframe, so I'm kind of mad that he isn't getting any love. Also his 1 and his 4 are still garbage after all this time. And you made an elemental ward augment that should have been part of the ability in the first place. Why is chroma so neglected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I hope he gets a proper passive! Here's an idea Elemental Flight - Bullet jump damage has a second instance (separate from bullet jump mods) that matches the chosen element. - Aim-glide lasts longer and his pelt wings are visible when in midair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDeadsinxX Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzoneSlayer Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, PsiWarp said: I hope he gets a proper passive! Here's an idea Elemental Flight - Bullet jump damage has a second instance (separate from bullet jump mods) that matches the chosen element. - Aim-glide lasts longer and his pelt wings are visible when in midair. I like this. Gives him more mobility which is something he doesn't offer too much of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genitive Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 +1 Chroma just should be able to switch elements during missions. Having to do it manually in armory is not a passive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzkyl Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Considering how changing elements has only 1 genuine effect on his skills (Elemental ward) the rest just change the damage of his skills with no effects A passive like that is extremely lazy, considering equinox the frame after can change forms at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahuHordika Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 It's kinda baffling that Vauban is getting a quiver treatment yet Chroma, the frame who introduced the concept of same power, different effect, is getting no love and furthermore his primary trait being counted as the 'passive'. As said before, Equinox can change the effect of her entire powerset and she gets a passive, yet Chroma doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thural Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 any passive that involves wings gets all my yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoesOfRain Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 When they were going through all of the passive ideas for frames, I got really upset that they didnt mention Chroma at all. Yes, color=element is a unique gimmick, but it's not enough to warrant it being his only passive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climatiseur Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Agreed. Never think that color changing thingy counts as passive at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphrus Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) I've said it before and got so much hate so I'll say it again and hopefully people will either agree or think a little more. Female frames have better ability's, are more thought out and are genuinely better than their male counterparts. In this case Equinox and Chroma. Now does that mean all male frames are bottom tier? Of course not. However if you look at the top performing frames (besides the tanks) most are female. Another comparison is the Mag and Volt rework, Mag's rework is much better. (Though I admit I hope she gets a better passive) Note: I do like the Volt rework myself, I am still hoping they buff the damage on his 1 and 4 and they give him a better graphic update for his abilities but that is besides the point. Please don't take this as me being negative/upset or what have you with the female community. This is purely an observation made by me and some other people I have had pleasant discussions with. Edit: I please read where I state that most are female not all. (Ash, Loki, Excal) are good male dps frames. Edited May 17, 2016 by Cyphrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owendawgx Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 So many good chroma passive ideas. Resistance to chosen color (status) was mine, others have great ideas as well. But nothing? Fr? Cmon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owendawgx Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 On 5/17/2016 at 11:45 PM, Cyphrus said: I've said it before and got so much hate so I'll say it again and hopefully people will either agree or think a little more. Female frames have better ability's, are more thought out and are genuinely better than their male counterparts. In this case Equinox and Chroma. Now does that mean all male frames are bottom tier? Of course not. However if you look at the top performing frames (besides the tanks) most are female. Another comparison is the Mag and Volt rework, Mag's rework is much better. (Though I admit I hope she gets a better passive) Note: I do like the Volt rework myself, I am still hoping they buff the damage on his 1 and 4 and they give him a better graphic update for his abilities but that is besides the point. Please don't take this as me being negative/upset or what have you with the female community. This is purely an observation made by me and some other people I have had pleasant discussions with. Edit: I please read where I state that most are female not all. (Ash, Loki, Excal) are good male dps frames. Tf? Frames arent better or worse or have more effort because they are male or female. That's insulting to suggest. Yes Equinox was more thought out, because she has like 7 ( abilities, shes more thought out than the Mona Lisa for heaven's sake. and Chroma not thought out? His kit is INCREDIBLY thought out, they just neglected a passive. Neglected CHROMA'S passive, not because he was a male, every other male got one (or at least an idea). It's because DE doesn't really pay attention to Chroma as much as other frames in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzoneSlayer Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Getting a nice bit of support. Save the Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronzeWolf Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Asking for a R0 passive like Equinox has isn't a good idea, an example would be like if Chroma had a R0 Ice Spring or Flame Repellent mod passive that changed with his element selected would fit his elemental theme but aren't going to be very useful. A far more useful passive would be a R5 Loot Detector passive, it fits dragons being associated with greed and is a useful passive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misgenesis Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Its not even a passive if one can change it. So yes, Chroma needs a passive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARLOCKE Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 12 hours ago, owendawgx said: Tf? Frames arent better or worse or have more effort because they are male or female. That's insulting to suggest. Yes Equinox was more thought out, because she has like 7 f@#$*( abilities, shes more thought out than the Mona Lisa for heaven's sake. and Chroma not thought out? His kit is INCREDIBLY thought out, they just neglected a passive. Neglected CHROMA'S passive, not because he was a male, every other male got one (or at least an idea). It's because DE doesn't really pay attention to Chroma as much as other frames in general. Get over yourself. Please. There are so many logical fallacies in your comment my English teacher would have a heart attack, and hes still in his mid 40s. No need to be nasty. He has a point. Many have observed it, Most dont say anything, like myself. Because it wont end well. And Chroma is anything BUT well thought out, He holds two of the most worthless skills in the game and two of the best. He lacks a passive and needs a update to not only his 1 and 4 but also to how energy color is changed. Well thought out....jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzoneSlayer Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 What if he had 2 energy color slots to make more elements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzoneSlayer Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 We'll see how this goes. I hope its something that adds another layer of tactics and play styles to him, or mass him a better tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cradicias Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Wish Chroma's energy color only selected his starting element and then you could switch freely between the different ones, mainly because I personally dislike many of the color options to get say Ice or Electric element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzoneSlayer Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Cradicias said: Wish Chroma's energy color only selected his starting element and then you could switch freely between the different ones, mainly because I personally dislike many of the color options to get say Ice or Electric element. Yeah I agree with this also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cradicias Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Plus we still need a fix for Chroma's coloration issues: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReshyShira Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Chroma does need to have a better 1st and 4th ability, they're basically useless in my experience. Chroma lacks a real passive, it's not like selecting the energy color grants some kind of passive resistance or anything. Part of me would like to see dual-element energy for chroma, but that's another story. Chroma needs a good passive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cradicias Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, ReshyShira said: Chroma does need to have a better 1st and 4th ability, they're basically useless in my experience. Chroma lacks a real passive, it's not like selecting the energy color grants some kind of passive resistance or anything. Part of me would like to see dual-element energy for chroma, but that's another story. Chroma needs a good passive though. Agreed, 1st power I only use on weak enemies for the "Melting faces" joy of it. 4th power only gets limited use on Excavations to keep those excavators clear of infested on the Pluto Dark Zone map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReshyShira Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, Cradicias said: Agreed, 1st power I only use on weak enemies for the "Melting faces" joy of it. 4th power only gets limited use on Excavations to keep those excavators clear of infested on the Pluto Dark Zone map. Or trying to squeeze slightly more credits out of credit farming runs. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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