Vanthenos Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Melos-mevim said: 7k is still too high.... It's not. 4 runs on an Oxium Hotspot isn't that much. Edited May 18, 2016 by Vanthenos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackbeard Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 why is anyone complaining about oxium when you can just farm it like anything else in game? 20 nitain and you can't even farm it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Onyx-Zodiac Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 15 minutes ago, crimsonspartan1 said: I do really enjoy this game but i feel like DE are making the grindwall larger with every new ipad. Let me give a few examples: The sibear requires 30k cryotic which means that you have to do either 30 excavators (1k cryotic and repeat), 15 excavators (2k cryotic and repeat) or go further for more cryotic each run. It'll take a really long time to farm for 30k cryotic for a hammer which most likely get's bested by the jat kittag and the brand new fragor prime. Vauban prime requires 20 nitain (5 nitain for each part) which isn't too much of a problem but pretty much requires you to stare at the screen for hours, waiting for a new nitain alert to pop up if you do not have enough for booben prime. Certain clantech stuff such as the knux require truckloads of resources aswell. There are also lots of grind when farming for prime parts (such as booben prime, who!/ parts are put into the worse drop tables) and such. I do take notice that this is supposed to be a grindy game but sometimes i feel like with every update, the grindwall seems to get bigger, thus making it harder to climb and obtain those new items. Thoughts and opinions? AMEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanthenos Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, crackbeard said: why is anyone complaining about oxium when you can just farm it like anything else in game? 20 nitain and you can't even farm it. So many Nitain Alerts the past 5 Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Zilchy Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 54 minutes ago, AdunSaveMe said: Part of the problem is that this happened to begin with. I don't know what stat you guys are using to dictate crafting costs, but it's obviously woefully inaccurate. They don't playtest , 1 dev using godmode in a demo is not playtesting and the rest of them don't play. They need a proper playtesting team, the age old excusr of being "still in beta" wears very thin after 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinrest Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Seeing as DE reduced the oxium requirements by half for Vauban Prime, I think the answer is clearly yes lol. I mean a lot of us are experiencing burnout from grinding, especially in the void. DE has stated that they are aware of the situation so there's hope that things will change in the ~future~ but as it stands right now it doesn't seem like they're making much effort to put a bandaid on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me.KayOh Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 i think that, the grind wall has definitely gotten bigger. i also think that nothing will be done to reduced it. however what is being done with the star chart and blowing up the void and such would be done to "lessen the grindy feel" of farming for these things and it is suppose to make it more enjoyable. but i agree with what is said about the grind. the resource cost is something i feel less strongly about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkOvion Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Zilchy said: They don't playtest , 1 dev using godmode in a demo is not playtesting and the rest of them don't play. They need a proper playtesting team, the age old excusr of being "still in beta" wears very thin after 3 years. Honestly... We're on Version 18.12.1 We're about to hit Version 19. We've had a 3 Year Anniversary. Most things in the game are on V2, some on V3. There is an active cash shop and 4 packages a year, that cost the same as a new release title each. Warframe is not in Beta, and they are delusional if they actually think they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Arkel-99 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 Its funny because they had a Bourbon List in devstream #73 in which they wanted to lessen the grind in Warframe, meanwhile everything gets more expensive to build.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banansa47 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 matter of time before something breaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMHOMHOM Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 22 minutes ago, ArionLightning said: Oh, sorry for purchasing my favourite frame. I had to farm my normal vauban and it took me long time. If I had to farm primed vauban in order to raise my master rank I would do it too. But you know?? He is my favourite and I purchased everything about it because he is my main. Problem?? Stop crying and just play And you know??? Nekros is hard to farm too. But I wont get his prime access because I dont like him. I will farm him only for raising my Master Rank. Shoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melos-mevim Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 10 minutes ago, Vanthenos said: It's not. 4 runs on an Oxium Hotspot isn't that much. see you say that but been farming all bloody night with some others at some of these "oxium hotspots" lets all point out that this single chassis costs more oxium than an entire, zephyr, an itzal, or a gratler, a single part requires more of one annoying stupid resource than several other things with already high costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Zilchy Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, DarkOvion said: Honestly... We're on Version 18.12.1 We're about to hit Version 19. We've had a 3 Year Anniversary. Most things in the game are on V2, some on V3. There is an active cash shop and 4 packages a year, that cost the same as a new release title each. Warframe is not in Beta, and they are delusional if they actually think they are. Bingo. And with this growing trend of grindwalls they're starting to push the envelope on being "free2play". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Arkel-99 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, Vanthenos said: It's not. 4 runs on an Oxium Hotspot isn't that much. 4 runs yeah sure.. maybe with resource booster active and if your 4 runs are runs of 10 rounds each .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubbi Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I'm guessing because normal Vauban is alerts only they wanted to provide us with something similar in the grind. Not that I agree with it. Grindframe/timewallframe. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Can't say I am. I have over a hundred of the things, and I started ignoring the alerts like 3 months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanthenos Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Melos-mevim said: see you say that but been farming all bloody night with some others at some of these "oxium hotspots" lets all point out that this single chassis costs more oxium than an entire, zephyr, an itzal, or a gratler, a single part requires more of one annoying stupid resource than several other things with already high costs Well I still got 60k Oxium (without running the Hotspots) And yes 14k is much, but not that much. Remember the time you are getting only 100-150 Oxiums per run. The time it was worth doing the 300 Oxium Alerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MopUpCrewman Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 So first we had the situation with Broken-War and War with the 600p bundle and now this. DE better not be going Trion on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melos-mevim Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, Vanthenos said: Well I still got 60k Oxium (without running the Hotspots) And yes 14k is much, but not that much. Remember the time you are getting only 100-150 Oxiums per run. The time it was worth doing the 300 Oxium Alerts. I also remember the time I didn't have to farm a specific unit in a specific faction for a resource, who else messes those good old days, when these gimmick resources didn't exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanthenos Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, (PS4)Arkel-99 said: 4 runs yeah sure.. maybe with resource booster active and if your 4 runs are runs of 10 rounds each .. im talking about 4 runs (a 4 rounds) without booster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhisperByte Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 As long as players are ok with the grind (not counting relatively few players on the forums complaining about it) the grind will only increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.O.I Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Jesus Christ 20 Nitain extract just to build this frame.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziegrif Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, crimsonspartan1 said: I do really enjoy this game but i feel like DE are making the grindwall larger with every new ipad. Introducing the new iGrind! Sister product to the iTimewall! I started to get annoyed when they introduced Argon. Kind of made it pointless to grind and when things require it I just groan and bite the bullet and do some voids and sometimes it takes a run or 2 to get all the Argon I need and sometimes it takes 3 days. Thank you RNG. Then Nitain happened. Basically screw that. I don't grind it. I don't like it. I barely have it as I don't play that much these days and new stuff usually requires it making me not want to play. Then the Twin ballsack, which is a horrible weapon with a horrible augment with horrible crafting costs that actually requires a higher MR level weapon to craft than it actually is, happened. And that was just mindbogglingly unbelievable. I'm still speechless and absolutely boggled at that weapon. WHY?! HOW?! WHICH DEMON FROM HELL DESIGNED THIS THING?! And then 30k Cryotic for an ice ball that's pretty much worthless as a weapon happened. And now Clown Shoes prime costs it's weight in BS. Call me lazy but I can't keep up with this ****. Edited May 18, 2016 by Ziegrif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronxito Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, OMHOMHOM said: Shoo. Could you three take a little look at this beautiful ball for a second?? :-P Edited May 18, 2016 by ArionLightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)KrokodiIian Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Don't see what the problem is, if you want it farm for it, why is everyone whinging because they can't get it instantly? Just play the game, it'll feel a lot more rewarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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