BlackCoMerc Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 42 minutes ago, (PS4)tpesconi said: Will be worse if we have to grind for a new relic every time a new prime/vault appears... That will be harsh and I really hope DE doesn't go that way. Oh that's where this is headed. I guarantee it. Notice Nitain was available all day long. Because it's no longer needed for gating. They have relic types now. This is gonna get ugly fast. Fortunately I have quality games developed by people who actually care about my enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Cinder Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 12 minutes ago, Alymbic said: Well, I got them if that counts? First you lucky son of a b* and second, how you post pics? Also that is so unfair...why do you get M1 keys and we dont? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alymbic Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, -AoS-Kirito said: First you lucky son of a b* and second, how you post pics? Also that is so unfair...why do you get M1 keys and we dont? To post pictures I upload them to imgur then link it using the Insert other media drop down (insert image from URL) on the bottom right of the text box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Cinder Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Alymbic said: To post pictures I upload them to imgur then link it using the Insert other media drop down (insert image from URL) on the bottom right of the text box. oh you sexy bish you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 ducats will be very painful to farm now....that is worst part... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burq Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I am pretty darn mad because I was saving all the keys that had Akstiletto Prime parts on them to run them with the new system, only to find they all got converted to something else entirely and now I get access to only 2 parts, and no flipping idea where the other 2 parts drop from which relic, so all the grind I did before was basically meaningless. The fact that Holding on to your keys was recommended by DE themselves makes me much more angry then I would normally be, not counting the fact that I didnt receive the same number of relics as I had void keys. Is the converter broken or what? Will each new Prime will get their own relic to regrind so we can grind while grinding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanGo Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 15 minutes ago, Alymbic said: At least for the vectis prime stock, its the rarest drop in the Axi V1 relic if thats any help at all. well at least they're not in endless derelict so it helps a little bit. :/ thanks friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Cinder Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 Just now, Burq said: I am pretty darn mad because I was saving all the keys that had Akstiletto Prime parts on them to run them with the new system, only to find they all got converted to something else entirely and now I get access to only 2 parts, and no flipping idea where the other 2 parts drop from which relic, so all the grind I did before was basically meaningless. The fact that Holding on to your keys was recommended by DE themselves makes me much more angry then I would normally be, not counting the fact that I didnt receive the same number of relics as I had void keys. Is the converter broken or what? Will each new Prime will get their own relic to regrind so we can grind while grinding? You speak truth my man, i dont understand any of what is going on with the key conversion. Not to mention we arent getting a 1:1 trade/conversion. Saying that this change is unfair...is an understatement. plus like you said DE told us to hold on to keys. What a load of bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Obviously keys have been converted non-lineary. I have M artifacts. Well, one M artifact, Lith one. Those corresponded to T1 keys, which I had, well, a lot. Nat as many as some people but still a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 No idea what types off the top of my head I'm missing, but IIRC I only have 5 types from each era. ~50 of each type I own. Given that apparently there's 6-7 types per era I'm clearly missing quite a lot despite the stupid number of keys I had. I refuse to believe thats RNG, the only logical conclusion is it's a consious decision on DE's part to only give us a limited number of relic types. And that's pretty horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimAtrament Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 oh i have M1 relics but it does not have the mag prime part im looking for thats ok i got it anyway <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--RV--ohestnes Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Yeah this was not the right thing to do on DE's part. I had about 400 keys total, and I had more than 10 of each giving access to every mag, boar and dakra part. Now I have access to ZERO, not a single of my converted relics give access to a single part of mag, boar or dakra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave- Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 23 minutes ago, ohestnes said: Yeah this was not the right thing to do on DE's part. I had about 400 keys total, and I had more than 10 of each giving access to every mag, boar and dakra part. Now I have access to ZERO, not a single of my converted relics give access to a single part of mag, boar or dakra Neither did I or ANYONE I know in my friends list or clan. Not a single person I play with has any access to those relics despite key farming so we could farm mag Boar and Dakra this month. Now we got screwed for our keyfarming. We keyfarmed the keys for those primes and then they got stolen away. The game doesn't care about veterans perhaps we've spent enough money on the game so we have enough plat so we might not spend as much as a new player. I can't believe with all the treads on this DE has been silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudri Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I am missing many types of relics but I had tons of keys of many different tiers. I don't get why out of all of them I didn't get at least ONE of everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxh Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Jeez folks,way to jump to conclusions there. So, yeah, there seems to have been a bit of a hiccup. Nothing they can't set straight though. This (sadly) isn't the first time DE has had these kind of issue, and like then they will most likely fix it. Though I imagine Tennocon(and the long list of new bugs) will put any quick fixes on hold which is a bummer, but lets at least give them the opportunity to set things straight. Or, well, that's what I will do for the time being. I do however expect at the very least something regarding this topic by the end of next week from DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskyr Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, Lynxh said: Jeez folks,way to jump to conclusions there. So, yeah, there seems to have been a bit of a hiccup. Nothing they can't set straight though. This (sadly) isn't the first time DE has had these kind of issue, and like then they will most likely fix it. Though I imagine Tennocon(and the long list of new bugs) will put any quick fixes on hold which is a bummer, but lets at least give them the opportunity to set things straight. Or, well, that's what I will do for the time being. I do however expect at the very least something regarding this topic by the end of next week from DE. Well, since DE doesn't tell us anything about the conversions, we are forced to jump to conclusions. I'm among the ones that are completely frustrated right now. All the previous updates have been painful enough and this one just tips it over the bar. So DE, what's up with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Muskyr said: I'm among the ones that are completely frustrated right now. All the previous updates have been painful enough and this one just tips it over the bar. So DE, what's up with this? Are we playing the same game here? I don't remember painful things since the focus introduction. Edited July 9, 2016 by VisionAndVoice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto132 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 hour ago, LocoWithGun said: It would solve the drop table dillution though. Don't need to fit new items into existing relics and since it seems that each relic has a set amount of items on it this might very much be the way DE is going right now. It would be key to give us reliable way to grind the specific relic though or you just move the dillution somwhere else. It doesn't seem reliable way to grind for the specific relic(key) just to get the prime part you wanted, not to mention that there is still some RNG to get the prime part with that relic. You would have to use some relics(keys) to get enough void traces to refine that specific relic so that you can reduce the RNG. When the relic failed to give you the prime part that you wanted, you already used the relic and have to go grind for that specific relic again. 1 hour ago, (PS4)tpesconi said: If we could farm new relics beforehand and/or on non-endless missions it could work, but grind for relics on rot C on the day the prime access is out!? I won't do. Assuming that when new prime parts were released that happened to require one of the type of relic that you got only a few. But before the new prime parts were released, you have no idea about it. And somehow it happened that the type of relic at that time gives prime parts that are useless or you already gotten, so you used it for void traces. Ended up regretting using the relics... Also void traces seems to be limited to 100. I really don't feel like farming for specific relics and then farm void traces to refine that relic to have a chance at a part, especially during deadline periods. Maybe without void traces limit, it would not be so bad. 28 minutes ago, ohestnes said: Yeah this was not the right thing to do on DE's part. I had about 400 keys total, and I had more than 10 of each giving access to every mag, boar and dakra part. Now I have access to ZERO, not a single of my converted relics give access to a single part of mag, boar or dakra same here. I thought that this void rework should remove the key framing so that we could go straight to playing the mission that contain the chance to obtain the part. I feel that it is not much different from the previous void implementation. To get the part that you wanted, you still need to farm for the specific relic. So far the only good things for me are that no more uncommon cores as reward and you can increase the chance of getting the part that you wanted with void traces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdoucet Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 14 minutes ago, Lynxh said: This (sadly) isn't the first time DE has had these kind of issue, and like then they will most likely fix it. Though I imagine Tennocon(and the long list of new bugs) will put any quick fixes on hold which is a bummer, but lets at least give them the opportunity to set things straight. Or, well, that's what I will do for the time being. I do however expect at the very least something regarding this topic by the end of next week from DE. I agree with your positive attitude and calm demeanor, but I think the point most people are taking issue with is that there has been no official response to this and we're all aware that while the bulk of DE's staff are heading out for Tennocon the countdown on the availability of these vault items is ticking down. Should we be spending the weekend farming or waiting for a fix? If someone on staff was able to chime in on a thread and just say, "Yup, we're aware of this and looking at solutions," the patience it would earn from the community would be invaluable on all sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goggles2 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 same issue here had hundreds of keys and access to every mission tier and type ended up with no m1 relics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takaani Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I also have this problem. I had a massive amount of T1 keys, and I got absolutely no M1 relics. My friend had fewer than me, and he ended up with 20! What happened, DE? Can you fix this or explain how this happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ligonare Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Same problem here. Only 5 relics of each era exclusively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxh Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Muskyr said: Well, since DE doesn't tell us anything about the conversions, we are forced to jump to conclusions. I'm among the ones that are completely frustrated right now. All the previous updates have been painful enough and this one just tips it over the bar. So DE, what's up with this? No one is forced to jump to conclusions here. People choose to do so because it's easier to vent that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Yeah I have a lot less Relics for my keys, so uhh felt a little cheated right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghogiel Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Alymbic said: Well, I got them if that counts? I think I got jacked on key conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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