Fylas Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, tisdfogg said: And yet he committed genocide, probably more than one. How many people do you have to kill, in order for the decadent and corrupt Orokin to notice you, let alone offer you immortality? Millions, I presume. And I somehow doubt his victims were limited to military. Granted, it was a "soul-sacrifice", but he himself admits to being a monster, haunted by what he did. That's why his grand scheme ends with a suicide attack, and not riding into the sunset. Don't get me wrong, I have some sympathy for the guy, but knowing why he did what he did, it seems kinda disrespectful and patronizing to treat him as a victim. well there's the whole soul searching and over and over in a near endless cycle discovering the things he did in his past which were ultimately for nothing, for THOUSANDS OF YEARS, it isn't that I or some others here take his deeds lightly but more, yeah he suffered long enough didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StonedMakak Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fylas said: well there's the whole soul searching and over and over in a near endless cycle discovering the things he did in his past which were ultimately for nothing, for THOUSANDS OF YEARS, it isn't that I or some others here take his deeds lightly but more, yeah he suffered long enough didn't he? Who do you mean suffered long enough, Ordis or Ordan? Ordis seems to be happy when he fulfills the purpose given to him by Ballas, even though it's forced upon him, that's the reason he didn't self-destruct although he could. I don't know if there is enough Ordan left in there for him to feel suffering, I think the only emotion left of him is anger. I'm not saying Ballas was justified in what he did, it was horrible. But he didn't do it to a fluffy bunny. Who is worse, the guy who butchers countless beings for a chance at revenge, or the guy who lobotomizes that butcher and turns him into a digital slave? They are both A******s, IMHO. Plus, knowing that Ordan was this badass, most metal warrior in the universe (putting bones into the base of your skull so you can rip them out in a suicide/last stand? Brutal), he would probably take it as an insult if you showed him pity. I mean, he walked through hell and became the devil to achieve what he set out to do. Like I said, summarizing that with "Oh my, poor Ordan" seems kinda disrespectful to the man. Edited July 16, 2016 by tisdfogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StonedMakak Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BornWithTeeth said: Now that I think of it, "The Beast of Bones" is a perfect name for a metal band. Coincidence? Me thinks not! Edited July 16, 2016 by tisdfogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helch0rn Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I Don't get the sympathy for Ordan. Ordan is a "thing" with bone-thingies sticking out of his skull that he rips out to stab people in their faces with them. Why for Saryns sake would you want a plushie of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaokasalis Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, tisdfogg said: And yet he committed genocide, probably more than one. How many people do you have to kill, in order for the decadent and corrupt Orokin to notice you, let alone offer you immortality? Millions, I presume. And I somehow doubt his victims were limited to military. Granted, it was a "soul-sacrifice", but he himself admits to being a monster, haunted by what he did. That's why his grand scheme ends with a suicide attack, and not riding into the sunset. Don't get me wrong, I have some sympathy for the guy, but knowing why he did what he did, it seems kinda disrespectful and patronizing to treat him as a victim. Im not treating him as a victim, im just saying i dont view him as evil. He might have been callous and disregardful of life but that doesnt necessarily make him evil. Seeing as how haunted he is by the atrocities he is, id say his not evil. If he were evil by my standards then he would have been proud of what he had done, seeing no wrongs with his actions and happily joined the Orokin in living forever. Edited July 16, 2016 by Kaokasalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) 51 minutes ago, tisdfogg said: Who do you mean suffered long enough, Ordis or Ordan? Ordis seems to be happy when he fulfills the purpose given to him by Ballas, even though it's forced upon him, that's the reason he didn't self-destruct although he could. I don't know if there is enough Ordan left in there for him to feel suffering, I think the only emotion left of him is anger. I'm not saying Ballas was justified in what he did, it was horrible. But he didn't do it to a fluffy bunny. Who is worse, the guy who butchers countless beings for a chance at revenge, or the guy who lobotomizes that butcher and turns him into a digital slave? They are both A******s, IMHO. Plus, knowing that Ordan was this badass, most metal warrior in the universe (putting bones into the base of your skull so you can rip them out in a suicide/last stand? Brutal), he would probably take it as an insult if you showed him pity. I mean, he walked through hell and became the devil to achieve what he set out to do. Like I said, summarizing that with "Oh my, poor Ordan" seems kinda disrespectful to the man. No, its worse, he didnt want revenge, he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, to die doing something so terrible that it would not be forgotten: kill immortals, the leaders of the empire, the Orokin. Edited July 16, 2016 by Venom-Snake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StonedMakak Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 31 minutes ago, Kaokasalis said: Im not treating him as a victim, im just saying i dont view him as evil. He might have been callous and disregardful of life but that doesnt necessarily make him evil. Seeing as how haunted he is by the atrocities he is, id say his not evil. If he were evil by my standards then he would have been proud of what he had done, seeing no wrongs with his actions and happily joined the Orokin in living forever. Ah, we differ in our definitions then. For me being callous and disregardful of life to that extent, makes a person evil. I also think it is possible for that person to know that they are evil and despise themselves for it - after all, no chance for redemption was a part of his sacrifice. If nothing else, I admire his conviction. 6 minutes ago, Venom-Snake said: No, its worse, he didnt want revenge, he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, to die doing something so terrible that it would not be fogotten: kill immortals, the leaders of the empire, the Orokin. Oh sure, I have no doubts about that. I was referring to that audio log about a child spy being brought to him, and how he realized that he and others like him, are killing each other for the amusement of the Orokin. That's when he flipped and decided to kill them. Maybe he was just rationalizing, but I think it was both wanting to punish the Orokin and gain glory (or rather infamy). Ordan sure wasn't the kind of guy who would limit himself to just one thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fylas Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 On 16.7.2016 at 11:24 PM, Helch0rn said: I Don't get the sympathy for Ordan. Ordan is a "thing" with bone-thingies sticking out of his skull that he rips out to stab people in their faces with them. Why for Saryns sake would you want a plushie of that? Courtesy of AM-Bunny because he's AADOOORPS :O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helch0rn Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Just now, Fylas said: Courtesy of AM-Bunny because he's AADOOORPS :O that's fanart, and where is his hair, or his bone-spikes that stick out from his head or his torn and ugly face? this looks nothing like the description from the fragments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fylas Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 of course it doesn't that thing was am bunnies idea, giving ordis a civillian warframe like body to control so he can act as a sort of space butler :O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELUCID4T0R Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 What if Ordis or people call him ordan karris is in the ship and is infected locked up causing the spores andthe tenno need to get the red vials from the grineer queens and cure him but teshin is in rage because he is orikin and he was the one who imprisoned ordis in the ship and now wants to stop the tenno. I know i am completely wrong this is just a theory so dont scream on my face that i am wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fylas Posted August 7, 2016 Author Share Posted August 7, 2016 12 hours ago, ELUCID4T0R said: What if Ordis or people call him ordan karris is in the ship and is infected locked up causing the spores andthe tenno need to get the red vials from the grineer queens and cure him but teshin is in rage because he is orikin and he was the one who imprisoned ordis in the ship and now wants to stop the tenno. I know i am completely wrong this is just a theory so dont scream on my face that i am wrong why would anyone scream at you for that? I do believe stuff like that is called "head canon" and all is fair game till the actual story patch hits and reveals what's actually happening X) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jicematoro Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) Deploy a Med Tower and HUG IT, HUG IT WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT! Edited August 7, 2016 by Jicematoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironfirefist Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Add the twin queens to the list what ballas did wrong, together with wanting to kill the zariman 10 children aka us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fylas Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 hour ago, ironfirefist said: Add the twin queens to the list what ballas did wrong, together with wanting to kill the zariman 10 children aka us. that name is so silly zariman 10-0 ten-o tenno XD but at least with sylvana from the titania quest we now have a live survivor from the orokin era (well sorta living heh) to help reveal more story after the next story quests :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderZsolt Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 On 2016. 07. 16. at 3:02 AM, Nazrethim said: You may get a new ship cephalon when you can afford it, that one seems glitched I want it, now! How much credits would it cost? 10mil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fylas Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 4 hours ago, Krumplifej said: I want it, now! How much credits would it cost? 10mil? I'd save up 50 mill if that was the price to get ordis a biometal android body as a physical proxy so I can stip his face in the giant tumor at the left door and tell him "WHY IS THAT HERE AND WHY HAVE YOU NOT TOLD ME YET?!" cause he's worringly oblivious about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennoPain Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Hope he looks cool idk story was actually really good from LORE point of view I will buy it even tho im not a fan of noggles ''only have stalker + his children'' so far YEA GIVE US ORDAN KARRIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakais Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Well, there is a model of Ordan, since his image does show up in the transmissions. But I get the feeling it's more or less a reused Drekar Elite Lancer or Evicerator model with some extra glowy bits. EDIT: As for the character himself. He was a monster. A brutal murderer who wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. But to be honest, compared to us, he's a saint. Edited September 21, 2016 by Lakais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 still not an ordis fan but wouldnt mind some sort of video or image , physical form to go with what he used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fylas Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) "Now your just an ordan that I used to mute~ ♪♫" <--- every tenno if ordis becomes a sexy looking space butler with a robot proxy to use as a physical body :P Edited September 21, 2016 by Fylas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarota Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I cri evrytiem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xgomme Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 HOLD THE DOOOOOR ! Hmm wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fylas Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Zarota said: I cri evrytiem. ;_; ordiiis is love ordis is life Q~Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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