(XBOX)ObjectedPit9506 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 so in warframe I've only seen the corpus, grineer, and tenno thats it so who is this fight between the three, really hurting? besides each other of course. Like really I've never seen a civilian/ neutral planet or other intelligent life forms even officially mentioned by name or other means of acknowledgment, you only go to planets that are controlled by one faction or the other, and your only there to mess there world up, you never go to a civilian/ neutral planet to defend it form an attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterff1 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Why would there have to be a neutral party I wonder? Could you clarify this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redthirst Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 We know about civilians, we just don't see them. There are mentions of colonies being attacked by Grinner, Steel Meridian protect the innocent, and Relays are stuffed by civilians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arxfiend Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 We know that there are other people. We just don't see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ObjectedPit9506 Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 what i mean is I've seen, no other alien race thats being affected by this war, no netural race thats being atacked ,its just the corpus(a hostile party) vs the grineer( a hostile party) but besides those two and the tenno I've seen no one really being affected by this war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterff1 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Just now, (XB1)ObjectedPit9506 said: what i mean is I've seen, no other alien race thats being affected by this war, no netural race thats being atacked ,its just the corpus(a hostile party) vs the grineer( a hostile party) but besides those two and the tenno I've seen no one really being affected by this war Well as mentioned, there are others, but we dont see them. The reason? A neutral party is absolutely unimportant. They affect eachother, so they're affecting someone. Just like IRL there are winners and losers. No neutral parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 guys... what if this is all just some kind of game? =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, (XB1)ObjectedPit9506 said: what i mean is I've seen, no other alien race thats being affected by this war, no netural race thats being atacked ,its just the corpus(a hostile party) vs the grineer( a hostile party) but besides those two and the tenno I've seen no one really being affected by this war It has been told: we avoid civilian colonies unless there's no other way. Because the Corpus and Grineer have means to detect void energy. And if we go to a civilian area, they house us, and when we leave, should the Grineer/Corpus find out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Gonna have to chalk it up to DE either not fleshing it out enough or leaving all that tasty info in non-replayable events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazerEraser Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 You are looking at a Focused PvE Co-Op game that finally got lore answers in december and the game was out...for 2 years at that point. Things are moving slowly, mainly because they aren't just developing a game, they are catering to the cattle, us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Eluminary Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 20 minutes ago, sushidubya said: guys... what if this is all just some kind of game? =/ Blasphemer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ObjectedPit9506 Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 i agree that this game is still growing, but it's strange that they can't even give us a name for any other alien race thats being affected, not a single name for neutral races, or other races that are working with the grineer or the corpus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, (XB1)ObjectedPit9506 said: i agree that this game is still growing, but it's strange that they can't even give us a name for any other alien race thats being affected, not a single name for neutral races, or other races that are working with the grineer or the corpus Because there are no alien races (currently), just the remnants of humans and their colonies, We haven't even left the solar system. Also mars was home to the "sky worshipers", so there's a neutral party for you. Edited August 1, 2016 by rapt0rman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonHD Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) I would actually love there to be some civilian planets, with a couple cites on them you could go and explore. They are staffed by neutral party (New race, or just non-warlike members of each faction) members, and are not to be attacked under any circumstance. There is also a peace treaty in effect while you're there. So any faction, except infestation ofc, can go and roam around. In these cities you would be able to accept quests from civilians, which give credit or resource rewards. There could also be some exclusive shops in the cities where you can buy certain cosmetics, weapons, and landing crafts. Idk, I would just love to see that. Edited August 1, 2016 by PoisonHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ObjectedPit9506 Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 16 minutes ago, rapt0rman said: Because there are no alien races (currently), just the remnants of humans and their colonies, We haven't even left the solar system. Also mars was home to the "sky worshipers", so there's a neutral party for you. lotus is a sentient being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radastir Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 If there would be no war, we would all play... Peaceframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1tsyB1tsyN1nj4 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 57 minutes ago, (XB1)ObjectedPit9506 said: so in warframe I've only seen the corpus, grineer, and tenno thats it so who is this fight between the three, really hurting? besides each other of course. Like really I've never seen a civilian/ neutral planet or other intelligent life forms even officially mentioned by name or other means of acknowledgment, you only go to planets that are controlled by one faction or the other, and your only there to mess there world up, you never go to a civilian/ neutral planet to defend it form an attack. Actually there are civilians, they just happen to live in colonies far away from the combat zone. There is something called "Ask a Cephalon" in which they do mention this. It's also better that Tenno and Warframes never go to a colony because that colony may be targeted next/ Tenno can only channel their powers, they could lose control and kill everyone on accident (same applies to Warframes as they are only conduits) What we are doing by going to the planets we have and doing what we do we actually are inadvertently keeping those civilians safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, (XB1)ObjectedPit9506 said: lotus is a sentient being Heavy spoilers Sentients were advanced machines made by the orokin and sent to the tau system to colonize it for them, so technically not aliens and questionable if they count as a "race" Edited August 1, 2016 by rapt0rman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--F--NerevarCM Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 minute ago, (XB1)ObjectedPit9506 said: lotus is a sentient being Sentients are not aliens. The only thing we can call "ALIEN" in Warframe are Sentinels. Because the Cephalon Fragment about them says they're aliens. Everyone else comes from the Orokin empire or is a Orokin creation, like the Sentients. Spoiler On the border of chartered space, an enclave of small, strange, seemingly intelligent creatures was discovered by Tenno explorers. They are mechanical entities, almost organic in appearance, with a precarious resemblance to the fearsome Sentients that had decimated human civilization. Howevere, these creatures showed no signs of aggression, and they immediately began carrying out helpful tasks in peculiar alliance with the Tenno. -Sentinels Fragment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-N7-Leonhart Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Misterff1 said: Well as mentioned, there are others, but we dont see them. The reason? A neutral party is absolutely unimportant. They affect eachother, so they're affecting someone. Just like IRL there are winners and losers. No neutral parties. What he asks is why the Tenno are needed? They could just watch the 2 superpowers self-destruct. That is why, the game should place more emphasis on what the Tenno are meant to protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 14 minutes ago, (XB1)ObjectedPit9506 said: it's strange that they can't even give us a name for any other alien race thats being affected, not a single name for neutral races, or other races that are working with the grineer or the corpus It isn't that they can't -- I mean, it's pretty easy to make up new races and chunk them into a story. It's just that they haven't done this yet. Warframe is primarily about combat, movement and personal customization, and so the vast majority of the game's content goes toward that. Civilians have been mentioned in passing during mission dialogue and in a couple item descriptions in the Codex. Adding more civilians would be purely for lore and universe, which frequently take a back seat to other things. The main reason for this is resource allocation -- we only add so much to the game by putting in civilians. This value can be different depending on the player: some revel in lore, others never bother. Furthermore, Warframe's development is in slow, staggered steps forward in multiple areas with no real order, like a drunk centipede. We didn't learn what a Tenno was until over two years into the game. Looking at similar assets already in the game, I think it's safe to say DE is putting fleshing out a more macro science fantasy universe on the back burner in favour of fleshing out the micro elements of this, ways that are more personal to each individual player. Civilians would be slotted into the same play aspect as the Relays (introduced for stress testing the servers) and Clan Dojos, areas you can interact with but not conduct a combat mission in. It's plain to see that these areas require extra time and disk space but are rarely ever used by the players. Relays are always ghost towns unless Baro Ki'Teer is there, and Dojos are hardly ever used for anything beyond clan research. I'm not saying adding civilian locales is a bad idea, but it might be something the game isn't ready for just yet. Too much time and effort would be going to an asset that would be incredibly underused. It would be interesting to see civilians more integrated into the gameplay itself. We recently got more of this in some higher-level Defense missions where the squad must defend a mobile, non-Tenno operative. I would really like to see a mission taking place in a city, vis-a-vis story mode in the Halo games: going to a civilian area that gets attacked by a faction as you're there, and the Tenno must stop the invasion and save as many civilians as possible. The obstacle to this is also time and resources: while this would a fun mission to do, it would be very hard to make and would lack the replay value other mission modes have (how many times have you replayed Halo's story mode?). Maybe we'll see this kind of thing in a future quest. Or if they could somehow make that kind of mission as a replayable, procedurally-generated mission like the rest of the game, it might work really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I wouldn't mind another tenno-esque "free the people" type of civilian faction. You can see examples in RL that even if the goals are the same for each organization they don't always see eye to eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 hour ago, (XB1)ObjectedPit9506 said: so in warframe I've only seen the corpus, grineer, and tenno thats it so who is this fight between the three, really hurting? besides each other of course. Have you tried listening to your ship's radio? 8 minutes ago, OverlordMcGeek said: I wouldn't mind another tenno-esque "free the people" type of civilian faction. You can see examples in RL that even if the goals are the same for each organization they don't always see eye to eye. Literally syndicates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, VisionAndVoice said: Have you tried listening to your ship's radio? Literally syndicates. And what do they do? Stare at us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 minute ago, OverlordMcGeek said: And what do they do? Stare at us. Meridian protects neutral colonies and takes in grineer defectors. Veil leads a partisan war against Grineer and Corpus. Loka is looking for a way to restore Earth. Sequence propagates fair trade to bring prosperity to the system. Suda explores for the sake of it. Arbiters are the only Tenno-centric syndicate. All of that is literally written in their descriptions. Do you even lore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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