Vicious_Vipa Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) I have min/maxed every single of my frames and weapons. And while I am already able to do everything in this game, I am now even striving after these Riven Mods... but why? to be honest: I cannot rationally answer this question because I'd be powerful enough to do a 4th, 5th or 6th,.....sortie which don't even exist ! So why? I guess for me it is 2 things: 1.) I am still expecting and hoping that the developers will finally give us difficult missions. And by "difficult" I don't mean getting one-shottted, not even being able to engage enemies (like the space ninjas we were advertised to be) - always having to keep them crowd-controlled. 2.) it lies in my nature to optimize and maximise the things I use - no matter if in games or in real life. I am interested in hearing your reasons, or possibly you don't care about min/maxing your gear ? Thanks. EDIT: so there is nobody else here who wants to get more difficult content in order to finally use all the stuff we have been farming for properly? Edited November 21, 2016 by Vicious_Vipa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurea_Hiigara Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Basic instincts, really. Always strive to become more powerful. Powerful enough to kill a god? Strive to be powerful enough to kill ALL the gods. In the multiverse. And future. And the past. And the alternate timelines. And ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Because dying over and over is no fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) I just use what I want. If I build something and it turns and that I don't like it, even if it's OP as hell, I sell it. And that makes me kinda sad because Karak is awesome as hell but damn useless at the same time. And my only riven mod is like +9 dmg against corpus for Latron Tiberon. And I don't even have a Latron! Tiberon! Edited November 21, 2016 by o0Despair0o Typo, wrong weapon lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnViande Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Because it's fun to kill everything. I like fun when I play video games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)maso_sage-mode Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 you can oneshot everything on the map with a lato fully modded. enought power isnt enough! lemme nuke the galaxy mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzoneSlayer Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Ain't no kill like overkill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeriousSkipper Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Isn't becoming a God the whole purpose of the game? Personally, for me, it is. Bigger numbers are fun. Overkilling LVL100 enemies is fun. Being instakilled by a bombard on the other hand is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurea_Hiigara Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, OzoneSlayer said: Ain't no kill like overkill Maxim 37: There is no 'overkill'. There is only 'Open Fire!' and 'Reload!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckMaverick Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Because it's good to have goals, it's as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious_Vipa Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, o0Despair0o said: I just use what I want. If I build something and it turns and that I don't like it, even if it's OP as hell, I sell it. And that makes me kinda sad because Karak is awesome as hell but damn useless at the same time. exactly!! I gave my Simulor Riven mod away to a friend (on the first day when these weren't nerfed yet) because I hate inaccurate and cheesy weapons. I love the Karak and the idea of getting a Riven mod for it. But still I want to boost those weapons I like and use to their maximum potential - even though it is not needed for the level of difficulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanicPrime Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I want to be the very best, like no one ever was. To build them is my real test, to forma is my cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyNotBro Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Best boys have best toys. That's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurea_Hiigara Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, ChasePanic said: I want to be the very best, like no one ever was. To build them is my real test, to forma is my cause. Prime Weapons! Gotta build 'em all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 It's human nature to want to be the very best, like no one ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V3REiGN Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I do it because I am a bit of a completionist, I hate having things unfinished. I have gear equipped for this not strong enough in the starchart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I've got two reasons as well. 1. To get the grind behind me and focus my attention on things that are actually fun. Acquiring more powerful gear provides zero entertainment of satisfaction, only the sense "relief" of not having to worry about it anymore. 2. To make absolutely sure that I'm on equal power levels with my team mates and that if I underperform, it's not because of some arbitrary number but my own lack of skill or experience. Besides the first one(because I didn't know what it was) I haven't unveiled a single Riven mod I've gotten so far and don't plan to waste my time with that system until a meta has formed around the stats and people have figured out which stat combinations on each weapon are objectively superior to everything else. Then it'll be time to start acquiring those specific combinations, which will take an ungodly amount of time. With the Riven limit I'll have to restrict myself to meta weapons(the meta that will develop, anyway). We'll see what the projected time to acquire meta Rivens will be once people take off their power creep glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tveeggad Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Atrocious armour scaling. That's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious_Vipa Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) In Germany we say: "Ein gutes Pferd springt nur so hoch, wie es muss" which would roughly translate with: " You don't have to use a sledgehammer to kill a fly" and exactly translates with: " A good horse jumps only as high as it has to" But I personally only use my sledgehammer for all these flies in this game. While I'd like to have a real challenge. Edited November 21, 2016 by Vicious_Vipa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lijka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) For me it's a forced habit of years of playing MMOs. In all games I've seen so far, people expect and demand it of you in any kind of content above average. In many cases, your non-optimised gear will do the job just as well but somewhat slower and thus you're "dragging the team down". You will either get insulted or outright kicked out of the group. It's a rather tragic social phenomenon, It also includes builds, classes/frames and so on. In Warframe, for me, except the mentioned habit, it's also the fact that on higher levels, it's a simple matter of either I one-shot an anemy (preferably a group) or I am going to get one-shotted. I'd happily run around with lower tier weapons if it didn't drasticly decrease my chances of surviving. Yhis also includes warframes themselves *coughbansheecough* I also like to feel powerful :P Edited November 21, 2016 by Lijka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Probably become stronger is the only goal in the game. Any thing we do has the purpose in boost our abilites/gear or to achieve money to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook-EN- Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I don't. I use the weapons that are fun to use, not necessarily most powerful. It gives me a bit of challenge against higher level enemies instead of instakilling them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ozymandias-13- Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I have always worked on a balance between min/max and preference. I'll take the gear I want to use in the way i want to use it and find the best build that'll work for me in that manner. For the most part they sync up well, but it would be nice to have something harder to work towards. Honestly, I would rather enemies scale up in health/armor shields and stop scaling their damage up after a certain point. As others have said, it's amazing to one-shot a level 100 Heavy Gunner. But at those levels everything one shots us as well which just turns into a spam fest and forces people to use certain frames. With enemies that have good damage, but much better survivability we'd have use for our insane Frame/weapon damage so it will slow things down a bit, but not leave us running and crying in the corner from the scorpion that one-shots an Inaros (ok, it happened ONE time!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heckzu Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, (PS4)maso_sage-mode said: you can oneshot everything on the map with a lato fully modded. enought power isnt enough! lemme nuke the galaxy mate I have a 6 forma Lato, and sadly it can't one shot much, especially when it comes to the Grineer. I occasionally bring my 7 forma MK1-Braton, 6 forma Lato, and 2 forma Skana to sorties, and I have to tell you: I can barely kill anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle22 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) Collecting new and interesting Warframes/weapons/mods etc and min-maxing them and/or optimizing them for certain tasks is pretty much the only endgame goal in the game. Once you've done everything else you are interested in doing, collecting/optimizing and raising your MR are pretty much all that is left. Of course, we naturally want to collect better stuff, and that bit of power creep is the backbone of the the F2P model. Riven mods are a fairly lazy/easy way to keep this cycle going, but the long term effects are still up in the air. tl;dr: we're all in the Skinner Box, and it's possibly getting worse before it gets better. Edited November 21, 2016 by Dizzle22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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