(PSN)Tenchi145 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, aligatorno said: Well, Euphona is a MR14 weapon, don't you think that it should be more powerful than a MR0 weapon? But its an exclusive weapon dropped by an assadsination squad. Dread is literally still holding it down as one of the best bows in the game only other bow is rakta cerenos for is syndicate proc and energy regen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligatorno Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, (PS4)Tenchi145 said: But its an exclusive weapon dropped by an assadsination squad. Dread is literally still holding it down as one of the best bows in the game only other bow is rakta cerenos for is syndicate proc and energy regen. And? It's still a lower rank weapon. Detron also drops from assassins, but it's an awful weapon. Edited February 28, 2017 by aligatorno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Regiampiero Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, (PS4)Akuma_Asura_ said: No you can go back to all those devstreams & find it yourself I've watched most of them and one thing is constant throughout all of them and that's the never-say-never mentality, so I don't know where you're getting this. Also you don't get to put words in other people's mouth and then tell them 'go find the proof I'm not lying', that not how the world works. Edited February 28, 2017 by (PS4)Regiampiero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tenchi145 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, aligatorno said: And? It's still a lower rank weapon. Even so its an exclusive drop and deserves to be MR0 due to being able to be marked by them no sooner than Venus/Mars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundervision Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, (PS4)Regiampiero said: Please quote who told you that it was a "nono" Quote Syndicates Augment Mod slots have been discussed, but are not going to be implemented. We're looking at exploring similar avenues for players to get the most from their augments. -- DS#45 Spoiler >to get the most from their augments. Tesla Link Funnel Clouds Divebomb Vortex Contagion Cloud Pool of Life Fire Fright Afterburn Darn, had a good laugh Edit: There's the way to get with augments w/o increasing a powercreep. Merging your augment with the base power so it will be replaced, or building a frame with augment-based powers from the beginning. These two (and even more) were suggested so many times, but you can see the result. Edited February 28, 2017 by Thundervision Forgot to mention another thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutsus Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Make Augments fit in the Exilus slot, im all for this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Regiampiero Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Thundervision said: Reveal hidden contents >to get the most from their augments. Tesla Link Funnel Clouds Divebomb Vortex Contagion Cloud Pool of Life Fire Fright Afterburn Darn, had a good laugh I'm glad you're having a good laugh, now if I could only figure out what's so funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundervision Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, (PS4)Regiampiero said: I'm glad you're having a good laugh, now if I could only figure out what's so funny. The listed augments are total letdown and even implementing an augment-only slot wouldn't save them or make people use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvorax Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, (PS4)Akuma_Asura_ said: THANK YOU & don't forget Zenurik unfortunately those two things are too ingrained into the community that there would be MASSIVE backlash if DE did anything drastic to them lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 why do augments need their own slot? They're mods. You sacrifice other stat boost to use them. That's how they should work. That's how all mods work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Regiampiero Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Thundervision said: The listed augments are total letdown and even implementing an augment-only slot wouldn't save them or make people use them. In short you have no clue what's going to be implemented, you've no clue how it's going to be implemented nor when, and your laughing about the lack of change in regards to a core game mechanic. Just priceless! Now I'm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Shikari- Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 You need to remember people that have every weapon needs something that's actually usable late game. "Powercreep" may be a thing to you, but I cannot wait for a usable weapon past level 30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundervision Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said: You sacrifice other stat boost to use them. That's how they should work. That's how all mods work. Do they? Oh, right. Natural Talent doesn't fit Exilus slot :^) edit: 2 minutes ago, (PS4)Regiampiero said: In short you have no clue what's going to be implemented, you've no clue how it's going to be implemented nor when, and your laughing about the lack of change in regards to a core game mechanic. Just priceless! Now I'm It's also nice that you jumped from the quote about Augment Only slots not gong to be implemented when asked a proof to another subject, and didn't forget to try to mock someone. At least you tried. Now go back to that link and look at the date of Stream Overview and then at the current one. Well, guess something like 2035y is completely fine for you. Edited February 28, 2017 by Thundervision Merged replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, EnterTheShikari said: You need to remember people that have every weapon needs something that's actually usable late game. "Powercreep" may be a thing to you, but I cannot wait for a usable weapon past level 30's. There are so many weapons that are usable past even level 60. Hek, Serration is redundant for a tonne of weapons before level 40-50 even. I swear, I'm not convinced half the people with this idea even play the game. I'm not sure where this mentality came from to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Thundervision said: Do they? Oh, right. Natural Talent doesn't fit Exilus slot :^) Personally, I think of DE really wanted people to use utility mod they need to combine them with weaker versions of popular mods.... Like armored agility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Thundervision said: Do they? Oh, right. Natural Talent doesn't fit Exilus slot :^) Maybe there is some hope for warframe forums :') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundervision Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said: Personally, I think of DE really wanted people to use utility mod they need to combine them with weaker versions of popular mods.... Like armored agility. Yes, AFAIK, that was one of the ideas and concepts (from the fans): merge the mods to get a combined one but with balanced stats so it won't be just a big buff. Sadly, this is another topic :( Edited February 28, 2017 by Thundervision typos :c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 26 minutes ago, (PS4)Regiampiero said: I've watched most of them and one thing is constant throughout all of them and that's the never-say-never mentality, so I don't know where you're getting this. Also you don't get to put words in other people's mouth and then tell them 'go find the proof I'm not lying', that not how the world works. So am I still lying ? Thankfully some other guy did your work for you & found the proof . I'd like an apology please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Regiampiero Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Thundervision said: It's also nice that you jumped from the quote about Augment Only slots not gong to be implemented when asked a proof to another subject, and didn't forget to try to mock someone. At least you tried. Now go back to that link and look at the date of Stream Overview and then at the current one. Well, guess something like 2035y is completely fine for you. Last I checked you're the first one that resorted to mockery with the use of Secondly, I asked for proof for the "nono" to which you replied with "Syndicates Augment Mod slots have been discussed, but are not going to be implemented. We're looking at exploring similar avenues for players to get the most from their augments", but you failed to see how the second part of the statement contradicts your point. From the statement its clear at that time they were looking at improving augments, but were not looking at doing so by just adding a mod slot. Does this prove that they're trying to improve the system? In your eyes it means no, but given the lack of talk on the subject in the last year and how everything got setback by TWW last year I'd say yes. In short no one knows and its ignorant to presume what other people think about something, and then drawing conclusions from your presumptions. So yea, there was nothing left to talk about therefore I started . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Regiampiero Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, (PS4)Akuma_Asura_ said: Thankfully some other guy did your work for you & found the proof . WOW, just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, (PS4)Regiampiero said: Last I checked you're the first one that resorted to mockery with the use of Secondly, I asked for proof for the "nono" to which you replied with "Syndicates Augment Mod slots have been discussed, but are not going to be implemented. We're looking at exploring similar avenues for players to get the most from their augments", but you failed to see how the second part of the statement contradicts your point. From the statement its clear at that time they were looking at improving augments, but were not looking at doing so by just adding a mod slot. Does this prove that they're trying to improve the system? In your eyes it means no, but given the lack of talk on the subject in the last year and how everything got setback by TWW last year I'd say yes. In short no one knows and its ignorant to presume what other people think about something, and then drawing conclusions from your presumptions. So yea, there was nothing left to talk about therefore I started . Wow, such pride, what a manly man. Whatever I made my point you can lock this mods . Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidforged Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, StinkyPygmy said: That aside, you're basically saying "Power creep already exists and isn't getting better, so we might as well make it worse by adding more unnecessary power creep". Not seeing the logic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhundis Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 My only complaint is why Natural Talent is not included as an exilus mod? Seriously, its entire ability is just to support a frame not buff it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thundervision said: Reveal hidden contents >to get the most from their augments. Tesla Link Funnel Clouds Divebomb Vortex Contagion Cloud Pool of Life Fire Fright Afterburn Darn, had a good laugh Edit: There's the way to get with augments w/o increasing a powercreep. Merging your augment with the base power so it will be replaced, or building a frame with augment-based powers from the beginning. These two (and even more) were suggested so many times, but you can see the result. I wouldnt say Dive Bomb Vortex is bad. Its a very good way to get rid of a crowd since it has a bigger range than Dive Bomb itself and with max range you can just jump, Bomb Dive and laugh as all enemies just ragdoll past you. Edited February 28, 2017 by Kaotyke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComCray Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, (PS4)Akuma_Asura_ said: No you can go back to all those devstreams & find it yourself If you go back far enough you'll find that PvP was a gigantic no-no too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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