Ventura_Highway Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) w/e Edited March 28, 2017 by Ventura_Highway adfvsbgmhn jhmjmh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneu Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I just want that sexy cyclops helmet, but have resigned myself to never being able to have it. Hopefully Umbra makes up the stat difference. Seems like founders are split on whether everyone else should get him or not; a poll would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajesticPinecone Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 all the difference is is 2 extra forma and 25 armor its not a massive difference umbra will more then likely be an upgrade from prime more then likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajesticPinecone Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Magneu said: I just want that sexy cyclops helmet, but have resigned myself to never being able to have it. Hopefully Umbra makes up the stat difference. Seems like founders are split on whether everyone else should get him or not; a poll would be interesting. Even if the poll went 51% yes 49% no de cant re-release them due to legal obligations from what i know ( could be wrong dont quote me ). I'm pretty sure 100% of all founders would have to sign on for DE to even consider re-releasing it which will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Just gimme a excal prime noogle...aaaand what?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneu Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Just now, MajesticPinecone said: Even if the poll went 51% yes 49% no de cant re-release them due to legal obligations from what i know ( could be wrong dont quote me ). I'm pretty sure 100% of all founders would have to sign on for DE to even consider re-releasing it which will never happen. Well yes, I know the legal issue, but I'd be curious what effect a large majority (say, 75%+) of founders saying they wouldn't care would have. Does one party continue to enforce a contract if the other party doesn't care about what happens any more? I'm also not sure about the legal specifics, or if it's ever legally enforceable (AKA founders could sue) if DE "broke" the contract. In any case, I really doubt 100% would ever happen; I'm sure you've seen those founders on the forums from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Tanta Cinta Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Umbra awaits us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckboy3825 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Wonder if we'll get umbra skana and lato for the icing on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatose Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 We've been over this a thousand times. Do we really have any reason to revisit this again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventura_Highway Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Phatose said: We've been over this a thousand times. Do we really have any reason to revisit this again? That isn't stopping people from talking about self-damage and explosives is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarCommanderVong Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I don't get it. What's the statistical difference between Excalibro and Excalibro Prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Censium Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Darkfeather21 said: I don't get it. What's the statistical difference between Excalibro and Excalibro Prime? His radial blind is slightly better due to reflections off his shiny bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventura_Highway Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Darkfeather21 said: I don't get it. What's the statistical difference between Excalibro and Excalibro Prime? He has 25 more armor at base than his unprimed counterpart due to his virtuous and uncompromising nature! When Steel Fiber is factored in this is about 52.5 more armor, and a 2.5~% higher ability to absorb damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashyrae Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I feel like the fact that Excalibur Prime can also use Orokin Death Orbs to get energy should also be factored in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppycorpse Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 reality is that excalibur prime is never coming back and the faster people get over it the better. it's been 4 years and what a suprise its not back... de has said on countless ocassions hes never coming back so any thread on it is pointless. just wait till umbra excal comes out or just forma your excal. its only a 25% amour difference so nothing really to care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zortyx Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Spoiler Ok now all we need is the lato prime one and then we can have all 3 founder things in non serious bring them back posts Edited March 28, 2017 by Zortyx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindigoTG Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, MajesticPinecone said: de cant re-release them due to legal obligations Either show me a contract, or any other legal paper which has those "legal obligations" in it, or stop with that legal nonsense already. DE has none legal obligations regarding Founders items whatsoever. None. Not a single one. The only thing that at stakes in case they do re-relese Founders items is the public trust. That's it. Nothing more. The only legal consequence theorethically possible is a class action law suit about false advertisement. But even then, I bet, it has already been covered in smallest text in Terms of Service, or EULA, or any other publicly available document that no one ever bothers to actually read. Edited March 28, 2017 by WindigoTP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Legacy---- Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, puppycorpse said: reality is that excalibur prime is never coming back and the faster people get over it the better. It's sad, but as long as new people keeps joining the game there will always be someone asking for it's return for whatever reason such as wanting poster boy prime, the primed version of their starter frame of choice, wanting the mastery points (dumb but I've seen people complain for it) or anything else. Even Steve has openly recognized that making said gear a one time exclusive deal was a big mistake, but it's still not enough to make DE break their word to their so called "early players" (even when I know of some players who have spent money while founder pack was available and nobody recognizes their contribution since they bought platinum instead) 46 minutes ago, puppycorpse said: just wait till umbra excal comes out or just forma your excal. its only a 25 flat amour difference so nothing really to care about. It's been almost 2 years and DE keeps doing nothing but [DE]lay any Umbra related progress; about putting forma on my excal, no matter how many of those I put on mine, he's not getting the passive 250 energy regen when touching death orbs :) Edited March 28, 2017 by ----Legacy---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avlaen Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 As a founder who has excal prime, No dont bring it back, its meant to be a sign of prestige and a reward for backing the game in its infancy, if everyone had access to it it would kinda get rid of the whole point of Founder rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 2 hours ago, MajesticPinecone said: Even if the poll went 51% yes 49% no de cant re-release them due to legal obligations from what i know ( could be wrong dont quote me ). I'm pretty sure 100% of all founders would have to sign on for DE to even consider re-releasing it which will never happen. 2 hours ago, Magneu said: Well yes, I know the legal issue, but I'd be curious what effect a large majority (say, 75%+) of founders saying they wouldn't care would have. Does one party continue to enforce a contract if the other party doesn't care about what happens any more? I'm also not sure about the legal specifics, or if it's ever legally enforceable (AKA founders could sue) if DE "broke" the contract. In any case, I really doubt 100% would ever happen; I'm sure you've seen those founders on the forums from time to time. The contract no one ever seen. As far as I know, founder pack could be purchased in the same way as any prime access. Plus, all the accounts, including founder ones, are owned solely by DE, and we just get a personal access to these accounts. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of banned founder accounts, if there was a contract, wouldn't banned founders sue DE for this? There's no contract and no legal issues. DE just hold onto their promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppycorpse Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) even in the skana prime forum that was locked community moderator said its not gonna happen EVER lol. really need to get over it. Edited March 28, 2017 by puppycorpse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I wish more people quoted the OP, that way when they edit out their post, others will know wtf is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 It's not coming back. Excalibur Prime is a founders exclusive item, given as a special gift to users who helped support the game in its infancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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