TioMegaManX Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 This has happened to me a lot of times so is not a coincidence, let's say I go to Hydron to level up my stuff, I carry myself as much as possible, we finish 5 waves, the other 3 players choose to battle, I know I can do it, then at the last second they extract and I am left alone to defend, depending on the frame that means I am doomed or I may be able to survive until wave 10, otherwise is time wasted and all bonus lost. How can I even avoid those players if the log is cleared once the host migration happens? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage2K4 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Go to communications, resent players list, and ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlen Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 DE all but eliminated this when they changed the prompt. Now, if all 4 players battle, it auto-starts the next round. If 3 of us are in battle and 1 is undecided, i dont trust them to battle any more than i expect them to leave, so i leave. It was a glorious change that basically 100% kills this troll move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 If everyone chooses the same option the timer ends immediately, so... Choose sooner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TioMegaManX Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Miser_able said: If everyone chooses the same option the timer ends immediately, so... Choose sooner? I am literally off by one second every time, I see them extract when the timer is in 2, and every time I do is too late and I am forced into battle, the timer says 1 but the timing seems to be 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krc473 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, VanFanel1980mx said: I am literally off by one second every time, I see them extract when the timer is in 2, and every time I do is too late and I am forced into battle, the timer says 1 but the timing seems to be 0. That doesn’t change the fact that when everyone picks the same choice, it instantly progresses. If one or two people pick extract. Pick extract too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TioMegaManX Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, krc473 said: That doesn’t change the fact that when everyone picks the same choice, it instantly progresses. If one or two people pick extract. Pick extract too. They literally stay middle, one of them may "extract", then the rest "decide" to battle, so I pick battle since we may be at least 3, then they pick extract right before the timer goes to 1 and I am trapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raziel29a Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 With 3/4 willing to battle I always hover over the extract button like a sniper waiting for the perfect headshot. Any sudden movement and I bust a move. Extracted once when my phone rang though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim22 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 i wouldnt say thats griefing maybe you wanted to leave and the other wanted to carry on but with you leaving that means the enemys wont spawn as much so thats probably why they left. its happened to me alot of times as well but i just carry on and forget about it. maybe at the start of the match ask how far you ugys wanna go or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Chel-El Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I almost always instaextract in difficult defense missions to avoid last minute bailouts Even if i do want to stay with the majority, a sudden mass bail could mean I’ll either bail myself or get left alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Vortus_ Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 If everyone has not joined at the halfway mark, extract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krc473 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 hours ago, VanFanel1980mx said: They literally stay middle, one of them may "extract", then the rest "decide" to battle, so I pick battle since we may be at least 3, then they pick extract right before the timer goes to 1 and I am trapped. If they stay in the middle, they are leaving. If one hits extract, also hit extract. If you are exp farming it is more efficient to leave the squad and find another 4 person squad than carry on with three anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I think OP is having some lag issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooperinius Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 9 hours ago, VanFanel1980mx said: This has happened to me a lot of times so is not a coincidence, let's say I go to Hydron to level up my stuff, I carry myself as much as possible, we finish 5 waves, the other 3 players choose to battle, I know I can do it, then at the last second they extract and I am left alone to defend, depending on the frame that means I am doomed or I may be able to survive until wave 10, otherwise is time wasted and all bonus lost. How can I even avoid those players if the log is cleared once the host migration happens? All you can do is /ignore them so you aren't grouped together a second time. The players who AFK in kuva runs are especially annoying. It's not like this game is hard to begin with, just run around and press E like everyone else for 5mins and get your kuva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion-Shields Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) I never choose battle if I know I won't be able to solo the next 5 waves. If I know I can't then I stay undecided until everyone else has picked. If even one other person is also undecided by the time 3 seconds are left then I extract. Edited January 1, 2018 by Legion-Shields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TioMegaManX Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 1/1/2018 at 1:08 PM, phoenix1992 said: I think OP is having some lag issues. Considering how I adjust matchmaking for the lowest ping possible and how this has happened several times now, nope, is not lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, VanFanel1980mx said: Considering how I adjust matchmaking for the lowest ping possible and how this has happened several times now, nope, is not lag. Sometimes the server itself hiccups during the reward selection and extraction screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TioMegaManX Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, phoenix1992 said: Sometimes the server itself hiccups during the reward selection and extraction screens. That many times at different points during different hours under the same pattern? sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, VanFanel1980mx said: That many times at different points during different hours under the same pattern? sure. The issue is not the time, but personal location and internet provider. I have had issues with my old(er) providers considering Warframe to some rather obscene territory If you want to flip the pancake towards "sure, it happens all the time" - consider the following - In my time in Warframe in the current fissure system I have encountered your issue only once, yet I have done enough fissure farmings to have 95% of the primes and enough pocket money to buy stuff on a whim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TioMegaManX Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, phoenix1992 said: The issue is not the time, but personal location and internet provider. I have had issues with my old(er) providers considering Warframe to some rather obscene territory If you want to flip the pancake towards "sure, it happens all the time" - consider the following - In my time in Warframe in the current fissure system I have encountered your issue only once, yet I have done enough fissure farmings to have 95% of the primes and enough pocket money to buy stuff on a whim. What does that last bit have to do with people allegedly trapping others into a solo defense? Edited January 2, 2018 by VanFanel1980mx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, VanFanel1980mx said: What does that have to do with people allegedly trapping others into a solo defense? It has more to do with the fact that you are seeing the information and timers with delay. Meaning people may not want to *clem* you over but you are showed as afk/neutral in the continue screen and they decide to pull off instead of dealing with leaches. If you ask the question "how often do you get *clemed* like that" very few will reply. If you ask "how many times you have seen player that is staying in the neutral selection for some time" the answer will be diffrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishyflakes Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 PSA: Ignoring players doesn't prevent you from matchmaking with them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raziel29a Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 On 1.01.2018 at 8:37 PM, hooperinius said: All you can do is /ignore them so you aren't grouped together a second time. The players who AFK in kuva runs are especially annoying. It's not like this game is hard to begin with, just run around and press E like everyone else for 5mins and get your kuva. I'll be damned. You just defined the entire game in a single sentence. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)HurricaneHugo76 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 The best rule of thumb is simple; can you solo the next wave if you had to? Do you feel you can make it to the next round with the number of people who say yes? If you can't be sure then leave. If you are not playing with close friends any other type of consideration is pointless. Don't assume anyone is there to help you unless you chat with them and get agreement on how many waves you all want to go for. That way you can gauge whether you can make it. If they lie they lie, but honestly most players hare honest if asked and if someone truly trolls you then like someone mentioned you can block them from matchmaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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