K4RN4 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Maybe it's just me, but I really dislike the unique features added to prime weapons, like ballisticas ghost, tiberons additional fire modes and pyranas spectral duplicate. When a prime weapon is announced and I'm excited, because a (weak) weapon I like is getting an upgrade, I don't want to See a completely diffrent weapon with new mechanics. I just want stat improvements. I don't want a Tiberon Prime that feels like a better Stradavar with an extra fire mode, I just want a burst rifle with good stats. The interesting mechanics could just be used for new standalone weapons, instead of strapping them to a prime weapon that is far too alienated from it's original counterpart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1- that's your opinion, others like it 2- you can still use burst with the toblerone p 3- the unique mechanics are only like 1 every 4 weps, and they don't interfere with the base wep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Not all unique effects are good. For starters, the Ballistica P's effect makes it very detrimental for stealth play. Not to mention the complete mechanic change. Pyrana and Tiberon P are all good, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4RN4 Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Datam4ss said: Not all unique effects are good. For starters, the Ballistica P's effect makes it very detrimental for stealth play. Not to mention the complete mechanic change. Pyrana and Tiberon P are all good, though. I don't really care for good or bad. I just want primes that have the same feeling as the original versions. Improvement or not, if it changes the playstyle of the weapon significantly I don't want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Oru5732 said: I don't really care for good or bad. I just want primes that have the same feeling as the original versions. Improvement or not, if it changes the playstyle of the weapon significantly I don't want it. As GinKenshin above says, that's just you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LoisGordils Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 That's literally just you and they won't chnage. Passives and unique firemodes bring some flavor and variety to your arsenal. If you do not like them, do not use them and stick to the vanilla versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ozymandias-13- Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Don't think of them as features that were added. Think of them as ones the toned down versions lost in their replication. These are primes we're talking about of course. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LoisGordils Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 10 hours ago, Oru5732 said: When a prime weapon is announced and I'm excited, because a (weak) weapon I like is getting an upgrade. Yes, Rakta Cernos, Sancti Tigris, Pyrana, Tiberon and Dex Sybaris were all so weak 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaZeku Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 11 hours ago, Oru5732 said: I don't want to See a completely diffrent weapon with new mechanics. I just want stat improvements. Huh. It takes all kinds, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickThejaguar Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 5 hours ago, (PS4)LoisGordils said: Yes, Rakta Cernos, Sancti Tigris, Pyrana, Tiberon and Dex Sybaris were all so weak 😞 He was referring the base versions of those weapons. Syndicate and Dex versions don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LoisGordils Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, MickThejaguar said: He was referring the base versions of those weapons. Syndicate and Dex versions don't count. Tiberon and Pyrana are the base version. Besides, base Tigris has the third highest base damage of all weapons. Use your neurons, friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)RPColten Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Many people may also enjoy the expanded mechanical functions of the upgraded gear, so where does this topic go next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4RN4 Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, (PS4)LoisGordils said: Tiberon and Pyrana are the base version. Besides, base Tigris has the third highest base damage of all weapons. Use your neurons, friend Regular Tiberon is not a good weapon and Tigris might have high base damage but Bad mag size, status and crit stats, therefore a Bad weapon. And I didn't even mention Tigris Prime and I believe it doesn't even have a special ability. Tigris Prime is a prime I like, because it is like regular tigris but with better stats. 36 minutes ago, (XB1)RPColten said: Many people may also enjoy the expanded mechanical functions of the upgraded gear, so where does this topic go next? I just wanted to express my opinion as feedback and wanted to see, if I can find a likeminded individual, expecting oposing opinions. That's what I got, so the topic basicly did what it was supposed to, unless more people want to express their point of view. Edited July 16, 2018 by Oru5732 german Autocorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LoisGordils Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Oru5732 said: Regular Tiberon is not a good weapon and Tigris might have high base damage but Bad mag size, status and crit stats, therefore a Bad weapon. And I didn't even mention Tigris Prime and I believe it doesn't even have a special ability. Tigris Prime is a prime I like, because it is like regular tigris but with better stats. Regular Tiberon is a beast, fact. Tigris has the same magazine as all other variants, can reach 100% status and low crit (same as other variants). I'm gonna stop replying since it's obvious you don't know what your talking about. Do your research, kid PS: Your request will obviously be ignored since you're literally a needle in the haystack. Everyone else enjoys diversity and cool mechanics. Edited July 17, 2018 by (PS4)LoisGordils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4RN4 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, (PS4)LoisGordils said: Regular Tiberon is a beast, fact. Tigris has the same magazine as all other variants, can reach 100% status and low crit (same as other variants). I'm gonna stop replying since it's obvious you don't know what your talking about. Do your research, kid PS: Your request will obviously be ignored since you're literally a needle in the haystack. Everyone else enjoys diversity and cool mechanics. Won't argue about Tiberon, as your "fact" is an opinion. Tigris and all it's variants have mag 2, which is low. Other variants posessing the same weakness, doesn't mean it's good. With a status Chance of 28% base it needs Nano applicator to reach 100% before multishot, which means a wasted mod slot. That's why I say it's not a good weapon overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)RPColten Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 @Oru5732 23 hours ago, Oru5732 said: Maybe it's just me, but I really dislike the unique features added to prime weapons, like ballisticas ghost, tiberons additional fire modes and pyranas spectral duplicate. When a prime weapon is announced and I'm excited, because a (weak) weapon I like is getting an upgrade, I don't want to See a completely diffrent weapon with new mechanics. I just want stat improvements. I don't want a Tiberon Prime that feels like a better Stradavar with an extra fire mode, I just want a burst rifle with good stats. The interesting mechanics could just be used for new standalone weapons, instead of strapping them to a prime weapon that is far too alienated from it's original counterpart. People have different preferences. This is something that should be accepted if providing feedback on game mechanics or art assets. You may not like the bonus functions, but some people do. I don't fault your taste or anything like that. You're not wrong or such, I just think the focus on this (The additional item functions) should have been highlighted in a more objective fashion, as it kind of is in your final sentence. Notice how there is no instance of "I" or "myself" or "me" in that last sentence. That is a clear and direct statement that actually has grounds for discussion, rather than something along the lines of "I like the colour orange, and blue is terrible.", which is the kind of feedback that doesn't really help anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenno.Rukasu Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, Oru5732 said: Maybe it's just me, but I really dislike the unique features added to prime weapons, like ballisticas ghost, tiberons additional fire modes and pyranas spectral duplicate You're not the only one. Community is so hungry for new content, that anything will make them happy. Problem are rivens. Weapons are getting to strong with them. If DE increase like 10% CC in some of them, they will start to red crit like it's normal, and again we will see tweaks in enemy scaling and more people complaint about end game. Butterfly effect, you change a little here and become a storm over there. That's will they are creating special mechanics for primes rather increasing their stats. Those 'ghosts' mobs/weapons are a waste of time. Edited July 17, 2018 by Tenno.Rukasu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickThejaguar Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 15 hours ago, (PS4)LoisGordils said: Tiberon and Pyrana are the base version. Besides, base Tigris has the third highest base damage of all weapons. Use your neurons, friend 1. I didn't say anything about the Tiberon or Pyrana, but the other 3 weapons you named were variants. That is what I was referring to. 2. I didn't say that the base versions of those weapons were weak. I only said that you shouldn't use variants when making that comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skippy575 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 On 2018-07-16 at 1:45 AM, Oru5732 said: Maybe it's just me It really is just you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zavenosk Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I like the passives. They're a good way to make new weapons interesting. While i prefer they show up on tenno reinforcements rather than prime variants, they provide an alternative way to inflate a weapon's power without risk it become too powerful with a riven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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