(PSN)Lei-Lei_23 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Diangelius said: Plus, Peacemaker even gets benefit from Arcane Acceleration. Any rework that helped her more easily "interact" with mobs would be insane as f*** ! You mean Arcane Velocity. Arcane Acceleration boosts the fire rate of rifles whenever a crit procs, whereas Velocity is for secondaries with the same mechanic. Mesa’s Regulators count as an exalted secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticEdge Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 didn't they rework mesa already about twice?🤔 If they did then there is not point speak about it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said: Any possible ways they could improve Peacemaker would make it over powered. It’s already an incredibly effective and very powerful Damage ability. The fact that you think it’s on par with Revenants 4 in terms of performance is down right laughable. As it outperforms that ability by a significant margin. For Rev that actually depends completely on the map. On some maps peacemakers dont even come close, on others they are even and on some danse doesnt even come close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) Il y a 3 heures, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 a dit : It used to require zero input and had a full 360 degree point of view and ignored walls. I say be happy they gave us what we have now. I know. I was there. But still, just because it's better now than back then doesn't mean too much. Edited February 25, 2019 by JackHargreav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 Il y a 2 heures, ChaoticEdge a dit : didn't they rework mesa already about twice?🤔 If they did then there is not point speak about it again. How many reworks Saryn got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticEdge Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, JackHargreav said: How many reworks Saryn got? she got rework of her abilities, suppose to be nerf but the nerfing did nothing so far appeared to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDMblue Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 It’s unique so keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticEdge Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, BDMblue said: It’s unique so keep it. he does have a point, rarely cowboys back in old days barely move if they are going for rapid fired then there is a skill type in real life quick draw let you fast pull out the gun and firing it nearly immediately. Later on they probably going improved it that she probably able move better or barrel roll with that abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 10 hours ago, JackHargreav said: Even with Mesa's Waltz this ability is just limiting and not very reliable since it shoots what it wants to shoot which is not a huge problem after it fastens up, but then your "field of view" gets reduced what? Mesa's peacemaker shoots at what you look at, you have total control of where the bullets are going, and if multiple enemies are clustered together, they all get shot quickly enough to not pose a problem. 10 hours ago, JackHargreav said: An other problem is that, this is just an other "press 4 to win ability" and only very minimal input is needed from the player. heh, you must have missed out on how it used to be: originally you pressed it and held down the fire button, and Mesa would automatically rotated and shoot anything around hr, 360 full degrees of P4TW "goodness". in the end it was deemed to effective and not interactive enough, so they reworked her to the peacemaker we have now, which is powerful while still requiring a little input from the player. comparing the two, it went from driving an automatic car to a stick-shift. 10 hours ago, JackHargreav said: It would be much better if this ability would be more similar to Excal's 4th instead of turning you into a stationary turret. so Exalted Pistols, basically? no thanks. Mesa's fine as she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 il y a 24 minutes, (PS4)robotwars7 a dit : so Exalted Pistols, basically? no thanks. Mesa's fine as she is. Well I guess this change is not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodKitten Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 all i want is to freely use the weapons, so i can freely shoot even if there isent an enemy in sight, sure, it would make nullies pointless that way, but on the other hand, you have to actually aim at enemies rather then place them in the general range of the ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birkenhoff Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) vor 17 Stunden schrieb JackHargreav: Edit: Welp It seems like people like Mesa the way she is so I deem this post irrelevant. Nope. Sad to say Mesa is - in row with Saryn, Equinox and Nova (ever tried a drop build with a tigris?) - the reason any other frame is useless unless there're anti-frame-abilites combined with incoming dps. Ok, other frames are useless too in that situations but at least you can kill something in that time. To the point. You should try Baruuk. He's basically a Mesa with more interaction (you need to move your mouse) that 'fortunately' ignores LoS. Edited February 26, 2019 by Birkenhoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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