(XBOX)XGN DrFeelGood Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 As the next idea we have seen this Forma series roll in: Aura Forma: Good, saves us long term time on those little changes that makes a big difference. Chroma is a good example to make flexible builds. Umbra Forma: Allowing Umbra Upgrades to fit the buffs in for options are great with Melee 3.0 phase 2 now. Amalgam Forma: It is great for some items now that could use the different. Aklex Prime, Aksomati Prime, and others. Now without breaking the game the next thing is wanting: Universal Forma the Forma that works in WarFrame and weapon slots. In some cases some players get 2 sets or 3 of a item for themselves. For example: 1 Nekros prime for Endless survival and Kuva missions. The 2nd Nekros Prime would be used for people going after Endo in Rathuum. That second Nekros would take a different set of polarizing for survive Rathuum. If a Universal Forma was added it would possibly have to get added somewhere special in the game. It’s crafting materials could be 250-500 Ducats each. The reason why is that can be done is to incorporate the use of Ducats for crafting. The Paracesis is the best option standing on crafting with Ducats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndouRaiton Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, (XB1)XGN DrFeelGood said: Amalgam Forma: It is great for some items now that could use the different. Aklex Prime, Aksomati Prime, and others. I have never heard of Amalgam Forma, was it mentioned on a devstream or something? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)XGN DrFeelGood Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AndouRaiton said: I have never heard of Amalgam Forma, was it mentioned on a devstream or something? It’s the recent Forma added. It can be crafted or purchased in the market to attach to weapons as an Exilus Mod slot. Edited December 22, 2019 by (XB1)XGN DrFeelGood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AndouRaiton said: I have never heard of Amalgam Forma, was it mentioned on a devstream or something? He/she probably pulled that out of his/her butt while pointing out two of the existent alternate Formas out of 4 mentioned. Edit: Market investigated. Edited December 22, 2019 by Uhkretor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndouRaiton Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, (XB1)XGN DrFeelGood said: It’s the recent Forma added. It can be crafted or purchased in the market to attach to weapons as an Exilus Mod slot. Tha'ts a weapon exilus adapter not a type of forma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, (XB1)XGN DrFeelGood said: Amalgam Forma There is no Amalgam Forma. There is, however, an Exilus Warframe Adapter and an Weapon Exilus Adapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kefirno Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 DE should just allow polarity stacking already. Maybe with the exception of Umbra polarity because it's kind of a special case, maybe even with some kind of multi-polarity adapter. You might argue that le epic 10000000000 forma vauban challenge xD memesters and people keeping multiple copies of same warframes/weapons for different builds are beneficial for DE but I'm pretty sure that allowing people to freely polarize everything without worrying about ruining builds flexibility will only make an average player more willing to spend formas which in turn would make people buy/rush more formas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivaMain Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Universal forma will be a huge QoL life change. Most people I met never build multiple warframes and weapons. Which makes them stuck with 1-2 builds and they don’t want most of their playtime spent leeching on Hydron or ESO. To not make normal forma obselete. The polarity can be stacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 The more likely scenario is allowing all the builds to unlink their Forma so you can polarize them differently. If players are just allowed to instantly slot in whatever new mod is added, get ready for more polarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkholde Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 2019-12-22 at 1:29 PM, (XB1)XGN DrFeelGood said: As the next idea we have seen this Forma series roll in: Aura Forma: Good, saves us long term time on those little changes that makes a big difference. Chroma is a good example to make flexible builds. Umbra Forma: Allowing Umbra Upgrades to fit the buffs in for options are great with Melee 3.0 phase 2 now. Amalgam Forma: It is great for some items now that could use the different. Aklex Prime, Aksomati Prime, and others. Now without breaking the game the next thing is wanting: Universal Forma the Forma that works in WarFrame and weapon slots. In some cases some players get 2 sets or 3 of a item for themselves. For example: 1 Nekros prime for Endless survival and Kuva missions. The 2nd Nekros Prime would be used for people going after Endo in Rathuum. That second Nekros would take a different set of polarizing for survive Rathuum. If a Universal Forma was added it would possibly have to get added somewhere special in the game. It’s crafting materials could be 250-500 Ducats each. The reason why is that can be done is to incorporate the use of Ducats for crafting. The Paracesis is the best option standing on crafting with Ducats. How is umbra forma open season now? Hope your not thinking that RJ Veil mission drop is the reason as it's not viable at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMattPrime Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 2019-12-23 at 4:29 AM, (XB1)XGN DrFeelGood said: Aura Forma: Good, saves us long term time on those little changes that makes a big difference. Chroma is a good example to make flexible builds. Umbra Forma: Allowing Umbra Upgrades to fit the buffs in for options are great with Melee 3.0 phase 2 now. Amalgam Forma: It is great for some items now that could use the different. Aklex Prime, Aksomati Prime, and others. Umbra forma isn't really real estate. After grinding solely on Railjack since its release. I have only gotten 1 and that was on earth before the patch. You'll have better chances on winning the lottery than getting umbra forma. Aura forma: This bloody thing is severely underused because - polarity is the most beneficial because of "Corrosive Projection". I propose that this forma should be applicable on the melee stance slot because Stances and Aura function essentially the same of adding capacity. Saves us from having to forma the melee stance slots everytime melee 2.999 gets updated and stances get changed. Umbra forma: Should be more accessible or just put it on the market for plat for those who want to skip the railjack rng. Amalgam forma: does not exist. Universal forma will never exist as that will render normal forma redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdframe_Prime Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 2019-12-22 at 8:29 PM, (XB1)XGN DrFeelGood said: great with Melee 3.0 phase 2 now. Due to Melee having Stances that increase the current capacity, plus having only one or two mods that go above 14 mod points in any way, Melee has never once needed an Umbral Forma. Not for double Sacrificial builds, and definitely not for single Sacrificial builds. Beyond that, as many frames do not benefit from Armour, and builds can be achieved with only two Umbral mods for the frames anyway, even frames that want those two can have fully functioning builds without an Umbral Forma anyway. On 2019-12-22 at 8:29 PM, (XB1)XGN DrFeelGood said: Amalgam Forma: Exilus Adapter, similar to the Warframe Exilus Adapter, is a one-and-done unlock that you never need to put multiple of on a Warframe or Weapon. Meanwhile a regular Forma can be needed multiple times on anything in the game and is easy to acquire from multiple sources. On 2019-12-22 at 8:29 PM, (XB1)XGN DrFeelGood said: Universal Forma Hahahahahahhahhahaha.... No. Universal Forma won't happen because of one simple thing: From the very beginning of the current modding era (back in around 2013) where they removed random-roll mods for Warframes and removed cool-downs from abilities to create the Energy base for frames, people have been asking for something like this. It will not happen. DE's answer to everything that you're asking for with 'universal' Forma is this: Get another one. You want builds that require a completely different Forma setup? Great, just go farm up a second Warframe! You want to change a slot you accidentally Forma'd to the wrong thing? Sure, go get another Forma. (You accidentally set your Narrow Minded to max, and only want a rank 7 for another build? Get another one!) This is not only one of their biggest revenue streams, it is one of the biggest because it's one of the only things in the game that you will always need. If you could farm up three to six Universal Forma and never, not once, ever need to re-level that frame again, not for any new mods that come out, not for any new Augment, not for any new Aura or Exilus mod... that would genuinely ruin their monetisation setup for the game. I genuinely do not see the logic of 'Umbral Forma is slightly, barely more available in the game now, this means I can now have my dream of never having any limitations on my builds again forever'. It makes no sense. That's genuinely a moronic move from DE if it happens. Why would DE shoot themselves in the foot for consistent plat purchases? That's not just a 'no', that's a 'hell no'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)FriendSharkey Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) They'll give us extra mod slots before the give us a Universal Forma, I can't see them getting rid of the revenue with a sudden fix that's actually beneficial to the players....unless it takes like 20 normal forma to make one... Edited January 1, 2020 by (PS4)FriendSharkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 11 hours ago, (PS4)FriendSharkey said: unless it takes like 20 normal forma to make one... (He meant 5000 Normal Forma) inb4 Hema Forma..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)XGN DrFeelGood Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 On 2020-01-01 at 6:27 AM, Birdframe_Prime said: Due to Melee having Stances that increase the current capacity, plus having only one or two mods that go above 14 mod points in any way, Melee has never once needed an Umbral Forma. Not for double Sacrificial builds, and definitely not for single Sacrificial builds. Beyond that, as many frames do not benefit from Armour, and builds can be achieved with only two Umbral mods for the frames anyway, even frames that want those two can have fully functioning builds without an Umbral Forma anyway. Exilus Adapter, similar to the Warframe Exilus Adapter, is a one-and-done unlock that you never need to put multiple of on a Warframe or Weapon. Meanwhile a regular Forma can be needed multiple times on anything in the game and is easy to acquire from multiple sources. Hahahahahahhahhahaha.... No. Universal Forma won't happen because of one simple thing: From the very beginning of the current modding era (back in around 2013) where they removed random-roll mods for Warframes and removed cool-downs from abilities to create the Energy base for frames, people have been asking for something like this. It will not happen. DE's answer to everything that you're asking for with 'universal' Forma is this: Get another one. You want builds that require a completely different Forma setup? Great, just go farm up a second Warframe! You want to change a slot you accidentally Forma'd to the wrong thing? Sure, go get another Forma. (You accidentally set your Narrow Minded to max, and only want a rank 7 for another build? Get another one!) This is not only one of their biggest revenue streams, it is one of the biggest because it's one of the only things in the game that you will always need. If you could farm up three to six Universal Forma and never, not once, ever need to re-level that frame again, not for any new mods that come out, not for any new Augment, not for any new Aura or Exilus mod... that would genuinely ruin their monetisation setup for the game. I genuinely do not see the logic of 'Umbral Forma is slightly, barely more available in the game now, this means I can now have my dream of never having any limitations on my builds again forever'. It makes no sense. That's genuinely a moronic move from DE if it happens. Why would DE shoot themselves in the foot for consistent plat purchases? That's not just a 'no', that's a 'hell no'. D E is worth 9 figures at least. There’s room to make the game more flexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdframe_Prime Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 hours ago, (XB1)XGN DrFeelGood said: D E is worth 9 figures at least. There’s room to make the game more flexible. Company net worth is just what you could sell it for, not how much money they have on hand. You could be worth 9 figures and you would certainly shy away from losing up to 20-30% of your yearly income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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