xcrimsonlegendx Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 If any faction is starved for attention, content and lore its the infested. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 ...Weren't the Grineer basically the only units even worth fighting for years on end? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 hours ago, xcrimsonlegendx said: If any faction is starved for attention, content and lore its the infested. I mostly trust DE when it comes to lore, but even I'm pretty sure they've forgotten what the Infested's lore is. They were introduced as if recently-revived, but we've also got the derelicts. They're also simultaneously treated as a major threat that could take over the system at any time that only Tenno stand a chance against, and also as a minor nuisance that's under control, even by non-Tenno factions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxmibai Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Please make a Clem plushie. I will buy him immediately so I can have an army of soft squeezy bullet sponges ❤️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nslay Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Loza03 said: I mostly trust DE when it comes to lore, but even I'm pretty sure they've forgotten what the Infested's lore is. They were introduced as if recently-revived, but we've also got the derelicts. They're also simultaneously treated as a major threat that could take over the system at any time that only Tenno stand a chance against, and also as a minor nuisance that's under control, even by non-Tenno factions. Yeah, I don't understand the Infestation Invasions... for one, they're smart enough to take prisoners and radio towers, but then they don't invade every node in the system at the same time with their massive numbers. On top of that, their very presence in a node should infect absolutely every non-Tenno there (heck, the entire area is visibly infected!)... so how could non-Tenno factions even have them under control? I remember Alad V and that Perrin Sequence child were extraordinarily special for eluding infection. Lastly, we only see melee attacks from the Infested. Shouldn't they have an airborne "infect" ability where nearby enemies slowly start to turn infested? We never see factions undergoing infestation. We just see the after result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, nslay said: Yeah, I don't understand the Infestation Invasions... for one, they're smart enough to take prisoners and radio towers, but then they don't invade every node in the system at the same time with their massive numbers. On top of that, their very presence in a node should infect absolutely every non-Tenno there (heck, the entire area is visibly infected!)... so how could non-Tenno factions even have them under control? I remember Alad V and that Perrin Sequence child were extraordinarily special for eluding infection. Lastly, we only see melee attacks from the Infested. Shouldn't they have an airborne "infect" ability where nearby enemies slowly start to turn infested? We never see factions undergoing infestation. We just see the after result. Agreed. Venari's lore pays lip service to the idea that there are special anti-infestation troops (equipped with flamethrowers and sealed environment suits), but we never actually see them. There's honestly a lot that could be done gameplay-wise with the Infested. Slash Damage on runners, for example, having a small chance to turn them into Crawlers, or spawning areas unique to the infested - possibly even in the middle of the room from pods. Let certain light units climb along walls, causing the primarily melee infested be more of a threat to stationary Tenno because it's practically impossible to force them into a choke point in an open area, and in a corridor, the entire corridor becomes valid space for them to try and get to you. Both of those together force constant movement, because now they can come at you from practically any angle, and you can't lock down entrances because they don't play by those rules (granted, you can lock down the whole room anyway thanks to power creep, but that's another debate) Lastly, it's criminal we've never visited a civilian area post-infestation. It's pretty much impossible to have the Infested be scary to us, just because power fantasy and horror fantasy are relatively incompatible. But second-hand horror is possible - show exactly what's going to happen to the world if we ignore the Infested entirely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine027 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) vor 20 Minuten schrieb nslay: Yeah, I don't understand the Infestation Invasions... for one, they're smart enough to take prisoners and radio towers, but then they don't invade every node in the system at the same time with their massive numbers. On top of that, their very presence in a node should infect absolutely every non-Tenno there (heck, the entire area is visibly infected!)... so how could non-Tenno factions even have them under control? I remember Alad V and that Perrin Sequence child were extraordinarily special for eluding infection. Lastly, we only see melee attacks from the Infested. Shouldn't they have an airborne "infect" ability where nearby enemies slowly start to turn infested? We never see factions undergoing infestation. We just see the after result. Simaris research, which sadly is another forgotten thing mentiones a ancienct transformation. Not visible but at least a description i guess. Spoiler Runner “First, my crew were torn down and consumed. Then my segments were ripped out and crushed. Now I lay blind but feel its growth through each failed system. And with nothing but time remaining, Jordas is forced to wonder, will its complete infiltration bring some vicious mercy or a new nightmare?” Jordas, Ship’s Cephalon, 3rd Class Frigate Spoiler Corrupted Ancient “She’s dead,” said Dax Menz, growing impatient. “No, she’s not,” I knew it. Our shuttle touched down in the ancient city center of New Uxmal for the second time in two days. We rushed to the entrance of the lower chambers, a labyrinth of tunnels carved into the rock. Behind us marched a full complement of bodyguards and Moas. Menz asked again, “How can you be sure?” “We’ve been connected for a century and a half, I’m sure.” It felt odd to be speaking aloud about something that Remballa and I had always just kept between us. That feeling of attachment, that anxiety that welled up within one of us when the other wasn’t right. That emptiness I felt when I thought they’d killed her and the joy when the connection came rushing back this morning. We were twins bred for purpose, cloned and then modified so that we could both interface with the Lora Device. The Orokin had a visage imbued with variation, beauty and symmetry, but we had the Lora nodes protruding from our right temples. Their skin was silken, ours was weaved with ribbons of metallic facia that snaked around our bodies and into the Lora Device embedded in our palms. We made them uncomfortable and they made that known, that is, until they were sick or hurt and then we were saviors. That never bothered me though, I loved my sister and we had each other. I wasn’t about to leave her in the middle of this nightmare. Hesitation was building in Menz’s face. I had command authority but if he balked, the soldiers would follow him. I needed to force his support, “If you were Tenno, there’d be no question.” “The betrayers…” he stopped himself. “Look, Remballa’s gone. The Infested killed her yesterday, we both saw it.” His frustration was building, “Damnit, this was supposed to be a relief mission, we can’t-” “It still is a relief mission.” I interrupted, “You want to go back to retirement Menz, or are you still a Dax?” I knew that stung. Menz stiffened. He’d been cast aside before. He wasn’t about to let duty slip through his fingers again. Menz stared into me, “Are you willing to risk becoming one of those things for a feeling?” I nodded, the answer was yes, for this feeling. “Very well Lorist Ontella,” Menz turned to his squad. “Ready up.” We entered the subterranean passage, weapon lights illuminated chiseled red stone as we marched deeper into the blackness, past shops and apartments, all carved into the rock eons ago. This city was as old as Mars's atmosphere. Everything was silent, save for the occasional snap of bone under a soldier’s boot. Three days ago this was a busy thoroughfare, now, bloodied scraps of clothing littered the route like confetti. We emerged from the tunnels into cavernous arcade, the Old Market Road. This is where she had led me. “We’re close,” I said. “Here they come,” shouted Dax Menz and creatures began to drive at us from every door and window. All teeth and claws and eyes that looked looked so familiar, what kind of animal has eyes like that? “Square formation!” Menz commanded. We backed up to a wall and the Moa’s moved to form a perimeter, with the bodyguards behind them and me in the middle. I closed my eyes and focused the device, through it I could feel each one of the bodyguards. A sergeant was slashed through the leg and I directed my energy toward him, his wound closed and he resumed fighting. Acid spit burned another soldier’s chest, I pushed energy to her, eased the pain, then reversed the damage, she would live. This was so much harder without Remballa. Another soldier was bit on the throat, he’s dying, there was nothing I could do, so I ease his pain and let him go. The rate of fire slowed, had we pushed them back? I opened my eyes to see the Moa’s beams incinerate the last few attackers. I was drained. I wasn’t a combat Lorist, Remballa and I were relief workers, used in disasters and outbreaks, not this. I felt a surge of that familiar connection, Remballa’s energy pulsed through me. “She’s coming,” I shouted. “What?” Dax Menz head whipped around to look at me. “I don’t know,” I said pointing at a hall exit, “she’s coming, from that direction.” “More Infested!” Shouted a soldier who motioned to the same exit. A mess of figures shambled forth. These were different, bigger and slower. I could feel my sister in there somehow, it was so strong. The Moas opened fire. I wanted to tell them to stop but how could I? I felt plasma beams burn the creatures and then I felt Remballa heal them. Why? Multiple connections now, I felt her many times over, it didn’t make sense, until it did; she was those things, all of them. They took our fire and kept coming. I felt her, no them, shudder as bullets ripped through flesh and then as flesh was made new again. They were Lorist Infested, my sister the healer, remade as monster and here to kill us. More rushed in. I felt the healing in them too. I focused just as the first wave broke through our lines. Moas were toppled, soldiers were tackled, teeth tore flesh. I was overwhelmed, I couldn’t control it, their pain fed back through me and I collapsed. Something’s jaws latched onto my foot. Infection pulsed into my veins. And then I felt it, a new presence, another healer? I’d felt this before, was it, it couldn’t be… I opened my eyes only to be blinded by an intense flash, followed by a crash, like a thousand crystal goblets all being shattered at once. All went silent, the Infested were dead. I felt nothing now. My eyes readjusted. I was surrounded by bodies. I saw something run away, a streak of silver and gold. It shot straight up the cavern wall and out into the sunshine above. I didn’t have time to think, I took a breath and a wave of pain surged through my entire body. The Infestation had already taken my leg, soon it would claim the rest of my body. I didn’t care, my sister was gone, this was my time. A shadow cast itself over me. I looked up. It was Menz, alive, he stared down without speaking and then unsheathed his massive combat blade and raised it high above his head. “Menz wait,” I mumbled, “I’m sorry.” With sudden and sure force his blade sliced down and through me. I contorted in with the pain. His hands grabbed my shoulders, “Heal yourself!” The adrenaline must have struck at that moment because I bolted up, still stunned, he had cut the infected leg clean off. “Damnit Ontella,” Menz was shaking me hard now. “Heal yourself!” Instinct took over, I snapped into focus and sent all the energy I had left through the device and down to the wound. I stopped the bleeding and neutralized the remaining toxin. I nearly passed out, I had nothing left. Menz hoisted me onto his shoulder, “I’m taking us back to the shuttle,” and he began walk out of there. A few scattered survivors and robots pulled themselves along behind us. As we approached safety I coughed and whispered to Menz, “I can feel her again.” “She’s dead.” “Yes, she is.” Edited June 2, 2020 by Marine027 Format change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaikki Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 On 2020-05-28 at 12:53 PM, elmetnuter said: What a bunch of bs... ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skiller115 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Is this a joke? Graneer gets everything! They have the most guns, a million types of heavy gunners and bombards, nearly only enemy in railjack, best loot (Kuva, Endo, Orokin cells, riven slivers, and unique op weapons from liches a whole game mode dedicated to them! They're the only faction that nearly killed us, they're the only faction that has bosses that actually run anything that we can kill and not a single nameless guy and a bunch of robots that can be remade the next day as bosses. Hell we actually meet the leadership of the Graneer but for corpus all we get to meet and kill is a nameless nobody and an apparently invincible talking salad that technically belonged to a different faction before! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_of_76 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 On 2020-05-28 at 10:36 AM, trst said: Really the Corpus getting more diverse unit effects with new sub-factions is the only thing they've gotten over the Grineer who just get reskinned weapons and new paint jobs in comparison. Which I'd argue is a development constraint caused by how much more difficult Grineer have always been relative to Corpus and thus the Corpus getting new mechanics instead of armor and damage like the Grineer. the kuva and plains variants have new and or different weapon and abilities where as none of the corpus variants are reskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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