Warframe Concept - Zephyr The Wind Elemental - Artwork Included [Resolved :)]

[MagnumCondiment]

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/173009-warframe-elites-concept/

[Chaz_Darkbane]

Congrats dude this is actually a thing!

[N-14]

Congrats! Your Idea has been immortalized

[ZBreaker]

Come on DE. Admit this influenced yours.

[PookieNumnums]

well its not patented, or copywrited ... therefor:

 

if anything

 

 

you should be happy your idea got enough attention that they atleast accepted part of it into their idea even if it was just the names.

 

that being said, your idea didnt look like a frame really. i think i said that in one of my previous replies.

[Krystalmyth]

Do not close this thread. Closing this thread will just make it vanish into obscurity, and DE needs to answer for this.

[CrazyCatLad]

Fit just hit the shan.

 

 

I vote OP gets free Zephyr with Reactor and already 4 forma'd.

[tahrox]

Come on DE. Admit this influenced yours.

Scott did a bunch-o-pages back.

[Zylin]

It's crazy how this zephyr looks cool and better than the other.

[Volkovyi]

Scott did a bunch-o-pages back.

If are referring to the comment he left stating, "Interesting design..." that is in no way solid proof. Especially since that comment was written many weeks before the release of update 12.

[OniDax]

Doesn't look THAT much like the concept. Really just the arms and the name.

[LordofTibera]

Im actually flabbergasted at this. I could have sworn that the OP would have been contacted in some way. This wasnt their intellectual property to take from. While the design wasnt referenced that much, the powers and playstyle certainly were. Id be contacting them if i were you, OP. Id be concerned about this because its too coincidental. I especially dislike how DE didnt even give you credit and merely said "fan concept"

[Hellboy44]

do more frames i love your art its great please keep making frames

[Azure_Kytia]

Im actually flabbergasted at this. I could have sworn that the OP would have been contacted in some way. This wasnt their intellectual property to take from. While the design wasnt referenced that much, the powers and playstyle certainly were. Id be contacting them if i were you, OP. Id be concerned about this because its too coincidental. I especially dislike how DE didnt even give you credit and merely said "fan concept"

Sorry, but no.

If you read the Terms of Use Agreement, you'd know that you lose out on that argument as soon as you post on the forums.

A concept was made with the ultimate goal that it would get implemented into the game. In this case, parts of it did, as it is a @(*()$ awesome concept. But that doesn't entitle the creator to any benefits aside from bragging rights. DE should probably acknowledge that their inspiration came from here (Like, in the description, would be cool) just to be good guys, but as far as IP breaching goes, that was forfeit upon posting the concept onto the Forums.

As per the Terms of Use Agreement we all agreed to:

https://warframe.com/terms

 

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It's common in the Vidya Gaem industry.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Azure_Kyte

[(PSN)DaReapa]

Your right it does say that but if something is copyrighted the company does not own the rights regardless, thats like saying I own pepsi and I post my logo on the forums DE now has the right to use my logo anywhere? No.

Even with that being siad its not right to take the concept this way then claim it as your own. Watching the dev stream the art designer made it seem he came up with the whole thing on his own. Seeing this I am appalled as an artist myself who was interested in making a similar post, now to see this gentleman not even get an honorable mention is distasteful. Volkovyi's not even attempting to make this a big issue, he just wants some recognition for his contribution to the new frame.

[Kalenath]

Well, none of us are privy to DE's internal design process so we do not KNOW if they used our ideas. I proposed the name Valcyr for the berserker frame. Did they use my idea or did someone there have a brainstorm first? I don't know.

 

Yes it sucks not knowing if our ideas were implemented, but we did give up all rights to the stuff as soon as we posted on these forums.

 

I am just going to keep writing fanfictions.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Kalenath

[EChondo]

This is why I don't post my own fan concepts or ideas. This is the same when you work for companies and use their equipment to create something, when you use a company you work for's computers or systems to create a concept they can take full right of it.

 

I'm not going to go and accuse DE of "stealing" per se, but it's way to familiar for the name, some of the design and move set to be almost exactly the same as the end product.

[Varzy]

Scott on the livestream commented on this concept thread, saying it was "Very inspiring" for the design of the Zephyr in-game. (At 29 mins in)

[Nexus730]

Rebecca told me that this concept was what inspired the actual Zephyr, down to the ablities and stats.

[LordofTibera]

Sorry, but no.

If you read the Terms of Use Agreement, you'd know that you lose out on that argument as soon as you post on the forums.

A concept was made with the ultimate goal that it would get implemented into the game. In this case, parts of it did, as it is a @(*()$ awesome concept. But that doesn't entitle the creator to any benefits aside from bragging rights. DE should probably acknowledge that their inspiration came from here (Like, in the description, would be cool) just to be good guys, but as far as IP breaching goes, that was forfeit upon posting the concept onto the Forums.

As per the Terms of Use Agreement we all agreed to:https://warframe.com/terms

 

It's common in the Vidya Gaem industry.

Okay, i understand that, and business is business, but morally here...they couldnt say the OPs name and properly give them some credit beyond the generic thanks given? Dont you feel thats more right? I actually dont post any of my ideas here because while id be ecstatic for something to make it in, I want credit.

[pepsi-tan]

He straight up says this concept inspired the official Zephyr "a lot," and he was inspired by it, so it's not asking for a lot to expect at least a proper mention.

[Driftwood]

This is totally going to discourage people from posting similar artwork/concepts here on the forums. If you're going to use the contributions of the player base you have to at least acknowledge them, by name, and provide them with a copy of the content they created. It seems like they're trying to use the TF2 philosophy of using player-generated content, but that only works because players not only receive acknowledgment and a unique version of the content they created, but also receive money for what they create. Granted, this is just concepts/concept art, but it was still used without permission or acknowledgement. 

I can't help but feel this is going to kill player contributions and create animosity between players and developers. They really need to address this.
 

http://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1xebh9/zephyr_inspiration_acknowledged_by_grineeer_de/cfakqt1

Apparently Volkovyi was acknowledged via twitter and his clan warlord confirms he received an in-game reward. Rad. 

Edited February 9, 2014 by Driftwood

[TrueSoundWave]

Alright everyone LETS START A @(*()$ MOB! AND BURN STEVE AND TEH DEVS TO THE GROUND! WHOSE WITH ME

http://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1xe915/de_really_needs_to_address_volkovyi_this_is_not/

[Azure_Kytia]

Okay, i understand that, and business is business, but morally here...they couldnt say the OPs name and properly give them some credit beyond the generic thanks given? Dont you feel thats more right? I actually dont post any of my ideas here because while id be ecstatic for something to make it in, I want credit.

No need to try and appeal to my better nature; I already agree completely, myself.

I was merely stating that they should, but they don't necessarily have to. 

[Dallas]

I don't get why they make no mention of OP, just that they were "inspired".