Allenaattori Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 But where is my Akmagnus? Come on DE! :) Dual Magnus is more appropriate lol Don't expect who knows what from it, a Vasto with slighty better crit chance and high status chance but slighty less accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendragon1951 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I guess i'm still not understanding why armor is better than shields, to my way of thinking isn't your shields the first line of defense for your Warframe, once those are gone then your Armor is your second line of defense, then health? If someone could explain this that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othergrunty Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Valkyr: Buffed to 300 (from 200). hmm..... The real tanker!!! Not really. Health doesn't regenerate without extra items or powers from trinity. You will become more and more frail with each hit, armor or not. Rhino with Iron Skin and powerfull shield and Frost with powerfull shield and snowglobe are still the true tanks. Infact Trinity is still tankier since she can regenerate health and transfer damage to her enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehous Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) 300 armor is still nothing with the new armor scaling. damage reduction = ( armor ) / ( 300 + armor ) It really seems like people don't know that armor for all frames is completely gutted and for valkyr to even get back to rhino and frost's old steel fiber damage reduction in damage 1.0 she would need 500 armor base plus a maxed rank steel fiber. Also enemies do not ignore armor, puncture damage reduces the damage reduction percentage by 50% so that coupled with every frames damage reduction being lower is why it may seem like they ignore armor. This. Buffing armor by 30%-50% when it's effectively been cut in a third isn't sufficient. Don't shoot from the hip, run the numbers. Edit: In case it's somehow not obvious; If you in armor 2.0 reduce the benefit of armor to 1/3 of what it was in 1.0, you need to tripple warframe armor in order for it to maintain the same benefit. Edit2:The relative benefit of armor will still be lower with 2.0 than in 1.0 even if warframe armor is trippled due to a higher prevalence of armor bypass for mobs. Edited December 4, 2013 by tehous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoth95 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 New update with plenty of fixes, yay. Still no fix for the Mod Window Issue however: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/140333-mod-window-issue-and-side-issue/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowain Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Come to think of it, you should fix the drop rate for Ember Prime as well. With these low drop rates, it almost seems like you're forcing the players to buy the Prime Access bundle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edryuu Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) still this update....make me not play the Valkyr ever....she still needs to be fix....armor buff....no....it doesnt matter at all to me...she will be a squishy warframe....well whatever back to Rhino and continue re-leveling Ash... Orokin Void Loot Table sucks...so i will not farm...i am done farming or trying to get Ember Prime BP (too rare) / Orthos Prime Blade (too Rare), Chassis, and Helm and the other Prime....just re-leveling.... i will not give money for Ember Prime or any other <====P2P for more content intended? Edited December 4, 2013 by edryuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombaio Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Holy moly! Valkyr + Steel Fiber = over 600 armor! She stands a chance at high levels now, at lest some what. Appreciate that very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendragon1951 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 @IronRushBR that's an invalid comparison, Frost has vastly higher shields than Volt does, so of course they will burn through Volts shields quicker than Frost's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deydreus Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Great! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombaio Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) still this update....make me not play the Valkyr ever....she still needs to be fix....armor buff....no....it doesnt matter at all to me...she will be a squishy warframe....well whatever back to Rhino and continue re-leveling Ash... Orokin Void Loot Table sucks...so i will not farm...i am done farming or trying to get Ember Prime BP (too rare) / Orthos Prime Blade (too Rare), Chassis, and Helm and the other Prime....just re-leveling.... I would highly recomend tryng before posting - Equillibrium + Rage coupled with high Vitality and Steel fiber - you become prety durable this way. Still she is no Rhino and she is not supposed to be. I was expecting a tank when i herd berserker frame but this is sooo much better. So much fun playing with a hard to master, unortodoxal frame. Edited December 4, 2013 by zombaio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tendou_Souji Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Thank you for the Disruptor fix ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelfeathers Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Zanuka fixes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vkmicro Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 yaay for armor boost for rhino and frost.Nice update and good job on the fixes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldaeth Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Can I query how upping valuies of armour by 50% counters the fact that armour was nerfed to be a third of the effective value before? If you had tripled the armour values it wouldn't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goozilla Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I guess i'm still not understanding why armor is better than shields, to my way of thinking isn't your shields the first line of defense for your Warframe, once those are gone then your Armor is your second line of defense, then health? If someone could explain this that would be great. Because its not. Dweebs see a buff and they go "Ooooh yay!", but fail to realize that health doesn't regen, Valkyr has no sustain, and no one is dumb enough to tank with HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etsoree Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 ZANUKA: FLEE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrismBlack Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 My Valkyr has 600 armour now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Invader Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-AbsoluteZero Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Valkyr 200 - > 300 amour Other classes got a slap in the face 10 -> 15 lol What 5 more amour can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzzik Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Thank you DE! As you know it is 3 weeks till Christmas. Dear Santa/DE, I've been a very good boy this year so can I please have working scroll in mods screen and accessible banshee helmet? Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ape3po Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Kick &#!. Good stuff guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakChimera Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 .....bow..... THANK YOU!!!! DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFIRE Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Dat valkyr armor increase...it's 300 now... :3 hnng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinium Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 nice, but when you gonna buff valkyr hysteria? on level 50+ enemys he barrely does damage, on 60 even worse when i say worse is like 1-2 damage, 100 whit an ground impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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