BrotherIcarus Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I guess it has been long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordX2 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I guess it has been long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Whats the point of the prime versions then? they are just another cosmetic upgrade, Given how the vast majority of Prime weapons perform compared to others (Boltor Prime, Marelok, Brakk, etc.), they pretty much already are. They're upgrades over their non-Prime version, but in most cases, there's still something better than it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoDominus Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I guess it has been long enough. That last one better not. Hell, even number two. Soma is hideous enough with crescent mag. Not to mention how are you supposed to keep sights in target when they move like that? I love the soma as a rifle, but you won't see me sleeping with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 That last one better not. Hell, even number two. Soma is hideous enough with crescent mag. Not to mention how are you supposed to keep sights in target when they move like that? I love the soma as a rifle, but you won't see me sleeping with it. Personally I think the crescent mag is beautiful but meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoDominus Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Personally I think the crescent mag is beautiful but meh.It's neat in concept, but archaic and cumbersome in practice. If it was an entirely underslung magazine, rather than a feeding clip, I wouldn't complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Not really no. For example, assume we have two rifles, one does 6 dmg with zero crit chance, one does 3 dmg with 50% chance of 4X crit.There really is no OBJECTIVE way to say which of these two rifles are "better". I've consulted this with some of my Risk Management PhD friends and this is what they told me. No objective way, scientifically speaking. And this is the way weapon balance should go. The best in-game example would be the Latron Prime and Wraith. Suddenly... MODS! I couldn't tell you whether or not the Latron Prime and Latron Wraith was intentional or a sheer fluke. Considering it's an isolated incident, and DE isn't exactly jumping at any balancing opporunities, especially the obvious ones - AKLato, Machete, why some dual secondaries are either flatly worse or flatly better than their single cousins, some mods themselves like sawtooth clip versus fanged fusillade... - I'd have to go with that balancing act being a freak accident until further evidence is supplied. Generally though, I DO wish for all weapons to be side grades to each other. That isn't going to happen, however, because DE is clinging to their mastery rank gating, even if they don't really understand it themselves, and players continue to think locking something behind a mastery rank justifies that weapons power (if it's at all powerful enough to justify the rank) even though few to no complaints regarding "OP" weapon power are actually concerned with the weapon's mastery rank. Edited November 9, 2014 by Littleman88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TH3_WH1T3_brown Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 the stats above are too OP, then thr comes the soma prime time,no one will use boltor prime anymore,coz hitscan and practically 16x more dmg than boltor prime I was joking around. I think the first set of stats are fine, but nerf the capacity to 150. It just doesn't feel right at 200 for some reason. I honestly think the max base crit chance for anything in the game should be 50% which works great for me. I also don't think it should be 4x multiplier (that's just crazy). I think if they were to buff the crit damage then it should be 3.5 base or even just 3.25. The stats in the post you quoted aren't the stats I actually think should be there. I was just messing around. 15 base damage is perfect, 50% crit chance is perfect, and 3x crit multiplier if perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClockworkSpectre Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) What I'd like to see in a Soma prime would be a faster reload speed, quicker wind up to full fire rate and a slight increase in damage stats/crit rate(like 35% base crit rate over the current 30% on the normal version). Though, the thing about the soma that has always bothered me is that a good crit build requires a lot of required mod slots taken up. Which is one reason I don't use it anymore, its not a very flexible weapon. Edited November 11, 2014 by ClockworkSpectre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackShield Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 would love to see 5% more crit rate hrhr beside bigger magsize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BierWurstGER Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 so it is out .. and yes it was leak :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerenax Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It should be capable of doing at least 90% as much DPS as the Boltor Prime IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensignvidiot Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Dat Deep Ammo pool Soma Prime's appeal isnt the small damage boost... its that you dont have to mod for ammo economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterUltimate Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) We don't even have content that makes the Boltor Prime necessary. Why does Soma Prime need to rival it? This is how Primes should be done. An upgrade that doesn't make the non-Prime version irrelevant. Edited December 17, 2014 by MisterUltimate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensignvidiot Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 We don't even have content that makes the Boltor Prime necessary. Why does Soma Prime need to rival it? I still like the fact that the Burston, Braton, Soma, and Boltor prime should rival each other. its close (Burston has an aug going for it) and it comes down to personal choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon_Slayer Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Looks like a good buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapClown Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 15 base damage. *10 Slash. 2.5 Impact. 2.5 Puncture. 35% Crit Chance. x3.5 Crit damage. 2.5sec Reload. 150 Mag. Why? Because there are many noobs running around with Boltor Prime, a Soma Prime with 15 base damage won't get their attention, because most noobs only see the base damage. but but all the noobs were running around with soma before boltor prime now it will be all the noobs are running around with the soma prime xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 10 to 12 is a big change IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 People are going to qq their heads off but the fact still stands that the Soma Prime is a direct upgrade, NOT a side-grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaelathRavenstorm Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 this is what people get when people want nerfed even if isn't even released :( It would've originally had a higher crit chance, a higher base damage or a faster reload speed, sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorche Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) I was thinking about how to make a joke about Soma Prime ........and I saw the question mark. Maaaaan. That aside, stats looks fine to me. Edited December 17, 2014 by Lorche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapClown Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 We don't even have content that makes the Boltor Prime necessary. Why does Soma Prime need to rival it? This is how Primes should be done. An upgrade that doesn't make the non-Prime version irrelevant. Have you tried playing past 20mins t4 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredCode Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Soma Prime is weak, please upgrade it with higher crit damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterUltimate Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I still like the fact that the Burston, Braton, Soma, and Boltor prime should rival each other. its close (Burston has an aug going for it) and it comes down to personal choice. Exactly. It shouldn't be a situation were the newest weapon overshadows all that came before it. The Primes should all have highs and mids. You should be able to choose a favorite without feeling you're downgrading, and there should be a reason each one is unique. I can't remember the last time I used my Boltor Prime. I never sell anything Prime, so I still have it, but Lord knows when it'll see the light of day. My Braton and Latron Primes do just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzatuw Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Have you tried playing past 20mins t4 ?Have you tried my Paris P? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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