LordPreda Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Where is it? The new version of the starchart looks fancy and all, but it's a very scaled-down version of what we were originally promised. The descriptions of the planets are identical to the old ones, and there is no trace of the "Regions" of the System that we were promised would be named after the original Tenno Clans. What is the point of this update if no lore is added? How will new players understand what is even going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 New (old) Starmap hasn't even been released yet. Where are you getting this info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calwon5 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Pretty sure not everything was shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nensha. Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 concepts change over time, yknow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krion112 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 This is why I absolutely don't believe in the 'all-in-one fix' I see people making Specters of the Rails out to be; DE has not entirely delivered before, and they're not going to now, not necessarily because they couldn't, but possibly even just because their concept changed. By keeping my expectations grounded, I'm more impressed by what DE does end up doing, at least as long as it's an improvement to the preexisting systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tveoh Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 15 minutes ago, LordPreda said: Where is it? The new version of the starchart looks fancy and all, but it's a very scaled-down version of what we were originally promised. The descriptions of the planets are identical to the old ones, and there is no trace of the "Regions" of the System that we were promised would be named after the original Tenno Clans. What is the point of this update if no lore is added? How will new players understand what is even going on? Techincally this is starchart 3.0 1.0 was the first startchart. 2.0 is what we have now. and as for the lore.. Concepts change over time. And i don't remember anything about any promises about regions being named after tenno clans... and why would the planets descriptions change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidNomade Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 time to start a new acc i guess only for playing the new star chart The good thing, that is still the best part of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrVonTuckIII Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Because this one has a much easier path to follow, thus making the newbie experience much better? Besides, that was just a concept. We had no concrete info that the old concepts would actually make it. And TBH, I like this one more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPreda Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 29 minutes ago, CrazyCortex said: New (old) Starmap hasn't even been released yet. Where are you getting this info? The screenshots that were released today. Since the update is coming this very week, I'm pretty sure it won't change significantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 minute ago, LordPreda said: The screenshots that were released today. Since the update is coming this very week, I'm pretty sure it won't change significantly I seen them, and am wondering how you determined that no lore is part of the starmap, as well as the dojo regions. We can only deduce that the starmap is more linear and easier to follow than it is currently. We won't know the rest until release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyYelen Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) It is only small part of Starchart. I think that 1st screenshot on page is just one "Region" what you say there is no trace. Edited July 5, 2016 by Kotokopter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I don't believe they made any promises (Steve in particular, he shows us the progress most) when showing the in-development Star Chart 3.0. I'm glad they did away with the white map. If you must have lore on the Star Chart, it probably comes from the Junctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IEpicWolfI Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Hi, welcome to Warframe where not everything that is said to happen WILL 100% happen for sure, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cradicias Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Bear in mind that the Star chart is now unlocked by going to the solar rail junctions and participating in a sort of mini-quest to activate them. It's apparently something secret enough they didn't wanna show it on the last Dev stream, so, maybe some story in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helch0rn Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 37 minutes ago, Tveoh said: Techincally this is starchart 3.0 1.0 was the first startchart. 2.0 is what we have now. and as for the lore.. Concepts change over time. And i don't remember anything about any promises about regions being named after tenno clans... and why would the planets descriptions change? wasn't there a different star chart in closed beta? So this would be Star Chart 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 startchart 2.0 is the current one we have. the one we are getting is 1.5 because its going back to 1.0's design but more refined and better looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionntan Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 42 minutes ago, Tveoh said: Techincally this is starchart 3.0 1.0 was the first startchart. 2.0 is what we have now. and as for the lore.. Concepts change over time. And i don't remember anything about any promises about regions being named after tenno clans... and why would the planets descriptions change? This 55 minutes ago, CrazyCortex said: New (old) Starmap hasn't even been released yet. Where are you getting this info? and this. @LordPreda Till give some source to your claims: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnThade Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, Grimm said: startchart 2.0 is the current one we have. the one we are getting is 1.5 because its going back to 1.0's design but more refined and better looking. i like this train of thought, although if it means this: Starchart 1.0 Starchart 1.5 - what we are about to get in SotR. Startchart 2.0 - what we currently have but based on the fact that the new star chart is 1.5, this could be our future. will happen. I think i prefer Starchart 3.0 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wevi Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 4.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinthAria Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I can't 100% remember where I saw this--I think it was a devstream--but I think the region names you're thinking of appear when you zoom out. When you're zoomed in (like they show in the teaser shots), planet names become the more important regional markers to use, and then mission nodes after that. They might still be there, and just didn't get shown in the teaser. As for lore...judging by how tight-lipped they were about junction nodes and what's inside them, plus the fact that they're making everyone (not just new players) go back and do them all, I'm betting there's something cool going on there that they didn't want to spoil. Otherwise...War Within will scratch that itch, no doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Wevi said: 4.0 first two are the same just S#&$ty place holder early graphics they updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zdeadfallout Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) The game is just Beta so don't count on it Edited July 5, 2016 by Zdeadfallout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarcu Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 The one thing I liked about the original star chart, was that it was much easier to tell which faction (Grineer/Corpus) was gaining control of what locations/planets. Or at least it seemed to be easier then, to me, than it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionntan Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Wevi said: 4.0 First and second Star Chart are pretty identical in terms UI though, only difference is second one got new fresh paint coat to look at for awhile. So technically 1.0 > 1.5 > 2.0 > 3.0 Edited July 5, 2016 by Fionntan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Actually, I bet you can't see it because it's zoomed in. You may remember Rebecca messing up on stream and us having a look at a more finalized version of the various Tenno school regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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