How can we make mastery rank of greater use?

[Phyrak]

Hey there,

The mastery system has a few things to it 
- trading per day
- loadout slots

What or how else could mastery be made of use?

Should mastery ranking have some sort of wanting to it?
Ie. A drive or something to make those to want to level their mastery rather than stay stagnant

Thank you for reading,

-Phyrak

[Gelkor]

Well, it also has:

• Number of extractors.
• Void Trace Cap.
• Daily Rep cap.
• Unleveled Mod Capacity.

Could have more but it's got some nice uses now.

[Kagisnad]

by educating people on how important it actually is.

such as:

-traces maximum

-syndicate standing/day maximum

-riven mod & weapon limits

-available mod slots on a rank 0 item [the biggest and most important use that automatically justifies ranking up your mastery regardless]

[Kagisnad]

Just now, Gelkor said:

Well, it also has:

• Number of extractors.
• Void Trace Cap.
• Daily Rep cap.
• Unleveled Mod Capacity.

Could have more but it's got some nice uses now.

we posted the exact same thing at almost the exact same time. i'm officially spooked. & sniped.

[Gelkor]

2 minutes ago, Kagisnad said:

we posted the exact same thing at almost the exact same time. i'm officially spooked. & sniped.

lol

[Zhoyzu]

No, people are already hurt enough as is about what mastery currently does. Honestly it does enough. Mastery is just a metric of how many items you have used and maxed out. Thats it, nothing more. People keep getting upset because they think its tied to skill which its not. If anything its also a metric of how much time you put into the game.

Those that grind mastery are either completionists, people looking for something to do, or are intrinsically driven to just get mastery.

System is fine as is and id hate to see the S#&$ storm arising from mastery ranks locking more people out of stuff. Game is grindy enough, please dont add anymore grind layers that dont need to exist.

[Phyrak]

7 minutes ago, Gelkor said:

Well, it also has:

• Number of extractors.
• Void Trace Cap.
• Daily Rep cap.
• Unleveled Mod Capacity.

Could have more but it's got some nice uses now.

 

6 minutes ago, Kagisnad said:

by educating people on how important it actually is.

such as:

-traces maximum

-syndicate standing/day maximum

-riven mod & weapon limits

-available mod slots on a rank 0 item [the biggest and most important use that automatically justifies ranking up your mastery regardless]

Forgot those

[Mastikator2]

The only thing that isn't scaled by mastery rank is your focus daily cap.

What really needs to happen is DE needs to better inform people what the benefits of higher mastery is, it's already very beneficial to have a higher mastery rank.

[Phyrak]

10 minutes ago, Mastikator2 said:

The only thing that isn't scaled by mastery rank is your focus daily cap.

What really needs to happen is DE needs to better inform people what the benefits of higher mastery is, it's already very beneficial to have a higher mastery rank.

Focus is a problem unto itself

[chaotea]

I think it could be used too much. Its nice as a goal to aspire to, but shouldnt be used as something you need to get to.

[Phyrak]

14 minutes ago, chaotea said:

I think it could be used too much. Its nice as a goal to aspire to, but shouldnt be used as something you need to get to.

Very much so

Aspiration is something which would be wonderful

Perhaps passives based on master rank?

[xXx_mtv_xXx]

Add a perk system, give us 1 perk point per mastery rank, that will make everyone race to the top.

Perks should be utility only (sprint speed, weapon swap speed, ability cast speed, etc) and not straight DPS buffs.

Edited November 29, 2016 by xXx_mtv_xXx

[Phyrak]

42 minutes ago, xXx_mtv_xXx said:

Add a perk system, give us 1 perk point per mastery rank, that will make everyone race to the top.

Perks should be utility only (sprint speed, weapon swap speed, ability cast speed, etc) and not straight DPS buffs.

That'd be rad

Though, passive regen of hp and energy would be useful too as to be able to free up focus schools and aura slots

[Genesis7000]

I think when you reach 13 it isn't this rewarding anymore, plus this mastery rank mod thing is bad in my opinion. 

[Voltage]

I would love to see more mastery rank incentives, but the trades per day is what keeps me at the highest i can go (23 atm).

[ChuckMaverick]

No, as other posters have already said, there are plenty of benefits to high mastery right now, we don't need more.

It wouldn't hurt to highlight the benefits of mastery to new players, though.

One thing we absolutely shouldn't have is mastery-based buffs that directly impact performance in missions, like energy or health regen, sprint speed, cast speed, etc.

Those would just make co-op play less welcoming for newer players and drive MR elitism.

If you really must have some additional incentive, then we could increase the riven cap based on MR, but honestly I'd rather DE just scrap the riven cap entirely.

[Phyrak]

8 minutes ago, -1459.Voltage- said:

I would love to see more mastery rank incentives, but the trades per day is what keeps me at the highest i can go (23 atm).

Incentives are something well needed

High level weapons/mods can only do so much

Perhaps more interaction between (spoilers) and wf would be interesting

Maybe additional energy and hp regen or tweaking to stats would be nice

Maybe passive equilibrium or mods akin to give more utility or minor survival would be rad too

[Xerenova]

I'm sorry but I read the title as "How can we make mastery rank great again."

 

Anyhow, here are some of my idea. Don't bash me, please.

 

• Mastery Rank ties foundry.
  • Increase the crafting quantity by 1 of the same item every 4 mastery rank starting MR12.
  • Example
    • MR12: 2 forma/potato/ciphers can be crafted simultaneously.
    • MR 16: 3 forma/potato/ciphers can be crafted simultaneously.

 

• Mastery Rank ties to Riven Mods
  • Increase capacity to 30 at MR15.
  • Increase capacity to 45 at MR20.

 

• Mastery Rank ties to Sortie
  • Increase the chance to roll a legendary core every 2 mastery ranks after MR12.

 

• Mastery Rank ties to Affinity/Credit
  • Increase affinity/credit gain by 5% every 4 mastery rank after MR12.
    • MR12 - 5%
    • MR16 - 10%
    • MR20 - 15%
    • MR24 - 20% (in a few months!)

Edited November 29, 2016 by -Unscripted-

[Phyrak]

1 minute ago, -Unscripted- said:

I'm sorry but I read the title as "How can we make mastery rank great again."

 

Anyhow, here are some of my idea.

 

• Mastery Rank ties foundry.
  • Increase the crafting quantity by 1 of the same item every 4 mastery rank starting MR12.
  • Example
    • MR12: 2 forma/potato/ciphers can be crafted simultaneously.
    • MR 16: 3 forma/potato/ciphers can be crafted simultaneously.

 

• Mastery Rank ties to Riven Mods
  • Increase capacity to 30 at MR15.
  • Increase capacity to 45 at MR20.

 

• Mastery Rank ties to Sortie
  • Increase the chance to roll a legendary core every 2 mastery ranks after MR12.

 

• Mastery Rank ties to Affinity/Credit
  • Increase affinity/credit gain by 5% every 4 mastery rank after MR12.
    • MR12 - 5%
    • MR16 - 10%
    • MR20 - 15%

These are cool

Also makes releveling far easier

[ChuckMaverick]

The main benefit to high MR that's not been mentioned, is that you have a ton of max ranked frames and weapons to choose from to mix up your playstyle because you've ranked them all to gain that MR.

Even more so now that riven mods and riven disposition are a thing to make less used weapons more viable.

[Xerenova]

1 minute ago, Phyrak said:

These are cool

Also makes releveling far easier

I really want high ranking tenno to get something more for working hard to achieve these status.

[ChuckMaverick]

2 minutes ago, -Unscripted- said:

I really want high ranking tenno to get something more for working hard to achieve these status.

You don't have to 'work hard' to get high MR, you just need to put in a lot of hours.

Much better that you're playing the game to have fun playing the game, there are enough grind-based rewards in Warframe already.

(Full disclosure, I'm MR17 with 2.2k hours played.)

[Zanchak]

10 minutes ago, -Unscripted- said:

I'm sorry but I read the title as "How can we make mastery rank great again."

 

Anyhow, here are some of my idea. Don't bash me, please.

 

• Mastery Rank ties foundry.
  • Increase the crafting quantity by 1 of the same item every 4 mastery rank starting MR12.
  • Example
    • MR12: 2 forma/potato/ciphers can be crafted simultaneously.
    • MR 16: 3 forma/potato/ciphers can be crafted simultaneously.

 

• Mastery Rank ties to Riven Mods
  • Increase capacity to 30 at MR15.
  • Increase capacity to 45 at MR20.

 

• Mastery Rank ties to Sortie
  • Increase the chance to roll a legendary core every 2 mastery ranks after MR12.

 

• Mastery Rank ties to Affinity/Credit
  • Increase affinity/credit gain by 5% every 4 mastery rank after MR12.
    • MR12 - 5%
    • MR16 - 10%
    • MR20 - 15%
    • MR24 - 20% (in a few months!)

Foundry - Crafting quantity yes please

Riven Mods - Eh

Sortie odds - Eh

Affinity/Credit - Eh

 

Why all the eh? Because in many cases all it's going to reward is campers maxing their MR.. for rewards.

MR shouldn't be about "rewards". Making life slightly easier? Yes

 

[Phyrak]

1 hour ago, -Unscripted- said:

I really want high ranking tenno to get something more for working hard to achieve these status.

Aye

Same here

MR 23 and hoping for something a little more for doing so

[LordOfScrugging]

best benefit to high mastery rank:

never seeing another mastery lock