Mesa Is too OP in onslaught without no effort at all, I thought that's supposed to be Endgame??

[BlackPanda39]

Where is the level 1000 enemies?? I've got my explosive (Zarr + Kulstar) ready!!

[Xaero]

What if this mode was created to gather data about cheesy playstyles so DE could nerf them all at once muahaha

[Jivy]

2 minutes ago, Ksaero said:

What if this mode was created to gather data about cheesy playstyles so DE could nerf them all at once muahaha

nononononononononononononononononononononono

[aligatorno]

Go play Elite and survive till lvl 1000 hits then, it should be easy if you have such an easy time in there. 

Edited April 21, 2018 by aligatorno

[-Athelwulf]

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An overuse of Warframe abilities can skew Simaris’ data. You may find he has different tolerance levels against ultimates than first abilities. You may never even encounter this rule, but if you do, know that it is only temporary.

well, in patch note stated.
 

[DarkRuler2500]

Mesa is perfectly fine.
She has cooldown on her 4th since it damages too much.

And i doubt you're complaining about 1,2 and 3rd ability since they are way from being overpowered.

[Marthrym]

It never was supposed to be "endgame". There is no "endgame" in Warframe, not when it comes to challenge. Level 9999 enemies are not "endgame", just a poorly thought out, stupid enemy scaling at its worst, still failing to provide any real, fair challenge to players, only broken mechanics to be circumvented with even more broken mechanics. If you play Warframe for challenge, you're wasting your time. Warframe is all about the cheese, where giving the finger to a broken core game using its own broken parts in a beautiful irony is the actual endgame.

[Transmorphic_Wyvern]

I just want to say, your title is telling me it takes effort. Your title is defeating the purpose. Without no effort, btw

[Forcereborn]

I don't know, I was probably doing it wrong, but in solo normal mode, Saryn brought me further than Mesa.

[(XBOX)YoungGunn82]

1 minute ago, Forcereborn said:

I don't know, I was probably doing it wrong, but in solo normal mode, Saryn brought me further than Mesa.

Yup, I believe that. Sayrn doesn't require LoS while Mesa does. 

[devildevil21]

17 minutes ago, (XB1)RDeschain82 said:

Yup, I believe that. Sayrn doesn't require LoS while Mesa does. 

And lets not forget the annoying 50 energy forced at start.

 

While mesa dishes out more damage, if there is no trinity, usually a slightly less damage but more efficiency Damage Dealer will be better than mesa. Such as saryn and equinox for example.

[Teloch]

1 hour ago, Ksaero said:

What if this mode was created to gather data about cheesy playstyles so DE could nerf them all at once muahaha

Hope so

[(XBOX)YoungGunn82]

14 minutes ago, devildevil21 said:

And lets not forget the annoying 50 energy forced at start.

 

While mesa dishes out more damage, if there is no trinity, usually a slightly less damage but more efficiency Damage Dealer will be better than mesa. Such as saryn and equinox for example.

And let's no forget slide spam maim meta with 500% Range. I mean who needs LOS or walls for that matter. 

Edited April 21, 2018 by (XB1)RDeschain82

[TotallyLagging]

- Talking about how OP a frame's 4th ability is when it's limited by Simaris ✓

- Thread completely unrelated to title ✓

- High level content = endgame ✓

Quality forum post 10/10 definitely need more of these

Edited April 21, 2018 by TotallyLagging

[rune_me]

How exactly is your 4 ability limited? Is there a cooldown on it?

Not on my PC today or tomorrow, so can’t test it myself until I’m back home.

[Vox_Preliator]

Level 1000 would be fake difficulty, I don't know why you would want to fight those.

Just now, rune_me said:

How exactly is your 4 ability limited? Is there a cooldown on it?

Not on my PC today or tomorrow, so can’t test it myself until I’m back home.

Siramis whines about you ruining his data if you use your "ultimate" too much, and allegedly locks it.  I haven't had it happen to me yet, but I've only done a handful of runs, and as Oberon.

Take this with a grain of salt, but from what I've gathered, it's based on repeated casts, so things like Exalted weapons are almost exempt, as would be Peacemaker if you just stayed in it for a while, but the playstyle of flying all over the place and peacemaking for a second or two at a time is severely affected.

Hopefully they adjust this per-ability as time goes on.

[DeMonkey]

13 minutes ago, (XB1)RDeschain82 said:

And let's no forget slide spam maim meta with 500% Range. I mean who needs LOS or walls for that matter. 

Just you wait until more people find about about the bug Wukong has in Onslaught...

Should be able to get +2000% range pretty easily. 10/10 stellar gameplay.

No, I haven't reported it yet :3

7 minutes ago, rune_me said:

How exactly is your 4 ability limited? Is there a cooldown on it?

Not on my PC today or tomorrow, so can’t test it myself until I’m back home.

Overuse can cause a cooldown which lasts about 10 seconds. Obviously for Peacemaker that's not really a problem since from what I've seen ''overuse'' refers to the number of times cast in succession, not how long it's up. Therefore Peacemaker isn't really as affected as something like, Miasma spam would be.

Edited April 21, 2018 by DeMonkey