DarkSkysz Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 So...suicide to your lich and lose some exp and a revive just to make 3 bastards happy and get some murmurs? Ok...I can see who are the selfish here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma-Beerlite Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, DarkSkysz said: So...suicide to your lich and lose some exp and a revive just to make 3 bastards happy and get some murmurs? Ok...I can see who are the selfish here. if you are concern about your xp then you are playing at the wrong mission... go elite onslaught / Hydron. That's where you could easy leveling with affinity gain all in the closer range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma-Beerlite Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Hyohakusha said: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1142219-murmur-farming-tips-and-tricks/?tab=comments#comment-11161340 I already outlined this in the thread above and like five others. I'm sick of repeating myself. People who demand that other players stab their lich are idiots. They chose to run on pub and give themselves a 1/4 chance of their lich spawning. They keep choosing to bash their heads against a wall, failing requiem mods, wrongly thinking that they're getting 10 murmurs worth of thralls when the stab bonus averages out to 4-8. They refuse to let liches convert standard grineer into thralls and get more murmurs for themselves and everyone else on the team. They reset their liches anger meter and reduce their chances of their lich spawning at all. They ignore defense objectives to wail on the lich. Block them. Ignore them. The only thing they do is make the grind longer for themselves and everyone else in the squad because they don't pay attention and don't bother to learn how lich mechanics work. Then they try to demand that other players inflict the same on themselves, trying to get others to waste 5-6 hours on one lich or ask that some kind of punishment gets added to players who don't indulge their stupidity. You can take out 2-3 liches a day and still have time to run sorties and do Nightwave, or you can waste an entire day going after one. I took out 30 liches in two weeks and I'm only missing the ogris. Pics are in the link. Immediately stabbing your lich is dumbest idea to ever get into the meta of this game. Wow Pro! your theory maybe applicable to survival/ defence mission.And most of the lich common mission are exterminate. Most of us that push fast run are into exterminate which make no sense base on your style. So far most of the time the lich was spawn back track where most of the spawn room already empty unless your killing speed super slow? or move forward to those alive spawn and lure them to the lich boss? which is about 400 to 600 away? they not even alerted where we are? Btw, do you even read the patch note? Thralls has limitation spawn! Also doing other way does not mean they are dumb/stupid or make you look smarter.The things that we are discussing is not which way is smarter or stupid and we did not criticise any method/ways is dumb. Its about do things your way by not griefing others. Edited November 16, 2019 by Dharma-Beerlite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test-995 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dharma-Beerlite said: Btw, do you even read the patch note? Thralls has limitation spawn! Did ya actually tried it? i suppose you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma-Beerlite Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Test-995 said: Did ya actually tried it? i suppose you didn't. if i have not tested how do i get 22 liches done? The boss requires available spawn in mission converting them into thrall. So when the room and nearby room already empty, how the lich gonna gonna convert [exterminate mission] ? Please read what i mentioned earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test-995 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, Dharma-Beerlite said: if i have not tested how do i get 22 liches done? The boss requires available spawn in mission converting them into thrall. So when the room and nearby room already empty, how the lich gonna gonna convert [exterminate mission] ? Please read what i mentioned earlier. Specifically talking about quoted part, not the entire post. And well, it's been like... 2 weeks from the update? 22 liches aren't that hard at all, if you dedicate yourself into grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma-Beerlite Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Test-995 said: Specifically talking about quoted part, not the entire post. And well, it's been like... 2 weeks from the update? 22 liches aren't that hard at all, if you dedicate yourself into grind. Nah, i don't delicate to this kuva thing. only few hrs (actual playing time) at most per day. I have my own life and stuffs to deal with. Not a full time gamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test-995 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, Dharma-Beerlite said: Nah, i don't delicate to this kuva thing. only few hrs (actual playing time) at most per day. I have my own life and stuffs to deal with. Not a full time gamer. So few hours... full of lich grind? I'd call it a dedication lul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDT_Flames Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) I see 90% form players in kuva controled mission use useless warframe (Khora,Nekros,Inaros,Wukong,Mirage ,very rear Mesa Prime ) and kuva weapons for up rank (this is big wrong) nope nervs for shoot for Other Kuva Lich with my Mesa Prime (only make damage everyware )surv,defence 1.Sedna/Adaro get Kuva Recommend :Meta CC Warframe Use Mesa Prime with 250 Energy Big Restore for 3 lv or 5 lv is 320 restore 2.Play with random squad first surv,defense,Hijack next Mobile defense,Sabotage,Asasin.. on solo =1-2 full bar =2 relic just cleaning heavy mission 3.Make some random combination +1 explore murmur from stones/mods next open othet infect planet 4. First failed -death from boss detect other infect planet (2 lv) when have excaavtion first play and hold position your boss dont kill just skip and farm more mormurs for your Kuva 5 .When see 2 full bar make random combination from symbols Play with random squad only sunrv,defense mobile defense on solo and Extermiante around 3 games I boss kill only on Capture mission in solo 6 Again Мaке wrong combination =death up lv for boss 7.Up rank lv on Boss -3-5 lv now get moree surv ,defense, mobile but every mission ,He spawn and skeep for explore and 3 murmur bar 8 .Find some mission Capture and kill Boss Note :Toxic Lich hunter is Playsers from 13-28 Master up with some uselees weapons ,melee and kuva weapons (for up rank) and some wait kill to Kuva Lich Edited November 16, 2019 by BDT_Flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma-Beerlite Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, Test-995 said: So few hours... full of lich grind? I'd call it a dedication lul No way for those not really interesting weapons. Just return to this game after few months break. Have been doing mainly leveling those 20+ weapons idling in foundry for months and 4 archwings xp to Mr 27. Got that free affinity booster from this patch and bought 2 x 3 days from baro must well do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test-995 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dharma-Beerlite said: No way for those not really interesting weapons. Just return to this game after few months break. Have been doing mainly leveling those 20+ weapons idling in foundry for months and 4 archwings xp to Mr 27. Got that free affinity booster from this patch and bought 2 x 3 days from baro must well do it. Huh, that's rather interesting, if you are actually killing 22 liches in like 20 hours or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma-Beerlite Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Test-995 said: Huh, that's rather interesting, if you are actually killing 22 liches in like 20 hours or so. fyi . if u think i am BSing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salenzar Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 You know, I might have agreed with you if liches were something you didn't actively and specifically needed to hunt and select missions for. You're doing a lich-controlled mission, right? You're there to hunt liches, correct? So you're saying you it should be acceptable to deny others from hunting their liches, which is the very thing you're doing? Yeah... no. Just get rid of your bloody lich already so others can spawn. It's incredibly frustrating when I know all 3 requiems, of when I'm trying to guess the order, and some asswipe has their lich spawn and refuses to get rid of it, leaving me with a pointless mission. I've called people out on it, and so far nobody has even bothered to reply to me at all. I usually ask kindly first, but I cannot escape the impression that people who don't get rid of their liches are just A******s who don't even bother replying to you when you simply ask them to make room for your own lich to possibly spawn. And as for the whole "just go solo", yeah, sorry, the system actively discourages that too, as my lvl 5 lich is actually kind of a menace and generally requires more than just me to take down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test-995 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Dharma-Beerlite said: fyi . if u think i am BSing Yeah nah, i'm just wondering how many hours you actually putting onto lich hunt, as i said 22 liches over 14 days itself isn't that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonthetenno Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, DarkSkysz said: So...suicide to your lich and lose some exp and a revive just to make 3 bastards happy and get some murmurs? Ok...I can see who are the selfish here. You play with those bastards for bonus thralls and the bonus exp they give but you refuse to give up some benefit so they can get something they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoryuu Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 This is the reason why I run lich hunts with clannies or alliance members only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotGustavoM Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, MirageKnight said: So you know what's a good incentive to keep people stabbing? IT'S NOT PUNISHING PLAYERS WITH DEATH AND A MORE POWERFUL ENEMY EVERY TIME THEY FAIL THE DAMN REQUIEM MOD TEST. By following your logic, DE should nerf every Grineer/corpus/every other mob's damage to almost zero because dying is not a good incentive to keep playing the game. "Oh, but that's the ga--"...! Exactly. And you know what else belongs to the game now...? ...I'll let you think about it. :^) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, NotGustavoM said: By following your logic, DE should nerf every Grineer/corpus/every other mob's damage to almost zero because dying is not a good incentive to keep playing the game. Do standard mobs kill you after you've beaten them? The answer is no by the way. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotGustavoM Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, Aldain said: Do standard mobs kill you after you've beaten them? Like that's the -only- situation ingame where players are being punished after doing a "good thing". Spoilers: It isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test-995 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, NotGustavoM said: Like that's the -only- situation ingame where players are being punished after doing a "good thing". Spoilers: It isn't. I can't find any tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sintag Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 hours ago, JuDirval said: Another good incentive to avoid this problem can be a permanent lost of the totally resource credit and mod from that run being permanent stolen and no more obtainable even when the lich is vanquished. No exp gained for weapon also. Like a wasted run as punition. You can still choice to stab it or not but then don't blame anyone if not yourself if you are going to waste a run. I'm truly glad you're not a game designer, because this punishment does not fit the crime one bit. It's disproportionate is the problem there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, NotGustavoM said: Like that's the -only- situation ingame where players are being punished after doing a "good thing". Spoilers: It isn't. Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portlalaland Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 hours ago, 8faiNt said: well i dont know why a mr 25 would almost fail you were obviously not preped. for the lich fight before joining in also, use vazarin if you dont wanna fail defend object missions The lich and the cryopod are not next to each other. Either take care of the lich or protect the cryopod. It's a public match. After you played this game awhile like me, you'll know that not everyone is always prepped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Neko Otaku Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 *reading this thread* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portlalaland Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Test-995 said: MR 27 players that doing lich missions shouldn't have a problem with defending those objective, even in solo, especially when you know what happens in the missions. Why you want to punish them instead of removing excessive privilege of those players lmao The lich and the cryopod are far from each other. I was with an MR 27 and an MR 8. They both died trying to kill my lich. I had to revive them. I "died" too, but I used Wukong prime. With 13 weapons to collect, I'm sure you'll be in similar situation sooner/later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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