(PSN)sweatshawp Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Acersecomic said: Any kind of inter-player competition results in a lot of toxic and foul play, exploitation of bugs and glitches and general lack of sportsmanship. Even PVE oriented things with leaderboards. Not at all? It just depends on the community. And warframe or at least the forums and reddit are moreso the toxic lot from my observation. At least in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Acersecomic said: Any kind of inter-player competition results in a lot of toxic and foul play, exploitation of bugs and glitches and general lack of sportsmanship. Even PVE oriented things with leaderboards. That's not true. And even if it was, that is indicative of a problem with the players playing it, rather than with the game itself. Take Soccer and Baseball for instance. Millions of people play them just fine and have a great time doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)TheLastDax Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2020-02-07 at 6:41 AM, HugintheCrow said: I don't care about "clan politics" (Actually made me laugh! There is no such thing as clan "politics", lol On 2020-02-07 at 6:41 AM, HugintheCrow said: It's the toxicity of the big clans Bro, did you just contradict yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 2020-02-07 at 6:41 AM, HugintheCrow said: "This guy is my circlejerk buddy, we love hating on the dreaded cAsuLS." Yes. On 2020-02-07 at 6:41 AM, HugintheCrow said: Cool, I don't care you're friends. Appeal to imaginary authority is and will always be a very low tier of strawmanning Is it really an appeal to authority when the person knows much more about the subject than you do? For instance, Those are your PvP stats. And here are Vulari's PvP stats I think he knows a bit more about PvP in Warframe than you do. On 2020-02-07 at 6:41 AM, HugintheCrow said: There is no such thing as clan "politics" On 2020-02-07 at 6:41 AM, HugintheCrow said: It's the toxicity of the big clans You managed to contradict yourself awfully quickly, but thats okay. On 2020-02-07 at 6:41 AM, HugintheCrow said: Stop making yourselves look like the victims here. You are the CULPRITS, not victims Please. We are not as awful as you make us out to be. We were essentially bureaucratic warriors. Our nodes routinely had 0% taxes and 15% taxes during double credit/resource weekends. We lowered overall taxes across the system on Xbox. Do not conflate us with the alliances on PC that you FAILED to overthrow. It should have been easy, given how easy it was on Xbox for is to take Solar Rails. Every possible advantage that could be given was in the hands of the offense and you never used them. Incredible. The blame for high taxes rests upon the community, who could have lowered them at any time. On 2020-02-07 at 6:41 AM, HugintheCrow said: The bottom line is: Chill out with you "we so hardcore" elitism That's the thing! We were never hardcore players. We played in the old system casually. If we had taken more of an interest in the system, perhaps we would have controlled more nodes than the measly 6 that we held at the time of armistice. On 2020-02-07 at 6:41 AM, HugintheCrow said: accept your own faults What faults do we have exactly? Besides being a passionate about the game mode we loved and being unwilling to jump on a bandwagon based on a pathological fear of PvP? On 2020-02-07 at 6:41 AM, HugintheCrow said: Armistice went into effect because toxic, salty "pvp-mains" such as you and your buddy started overdosing on bullS#&$. DDOS attacks, literally hacking, abusing glitches and insanely overpowered strategies We did nothing of the sort. We were fairly tech illiterate and I doubt we would have been organized enough at that time to do pull off something like a DDOS attack, nor could we "hack" the game. Xbox would have come down very hard on us if we did something like that. The thing about leading clans and alliances is that the people leading them (assuming Vulari is still a Warlord in his clan) is that you have to be really calm and level headed to be so appealing that hundreds of people would gather to organize around your banner. We weren't toxic, salty, or "PvP-mains". Our only sin was that we enjoyed the Dark Sector Conflicts. Something that is apparently unforgivable in the eyes of many forum dwellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Chroma Prime Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 11 hours ago, (XB1)The Repo Man151 said: That's not true. And even if it was, that is indicative of a problem with the players playing it, rather than with the game itself. Take Soccer and Baseball for instance. Millions of people play them just fine and have a great time doing so. There are even other PvP games out there that have hundreds of thousands of active players like League of Legends and CSGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimCorsair Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Nope, it's not, and that's fine as nothing and no one of value has been lost with the removal of the old dark sector PvP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 hours ago, TheGrimCorsair said: Nope, it's not, and that's fine as nothing and no one of value has been lost with the removal of the old dark sector PvP. DE removing the Dark Sector system from the game set the precedent for them to remove Raids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)CFE Vulari Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, (XB1)The Repo Man151 said: DE removing the Dark Sector system from the game set the precedent for them to remove Raids. Facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Chroma Prime Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 2020-01-21 at 3:47 AM, coolteemu said: How do the dark sector ownership change thees days or has it been remove? DE put all the nodes on "armistice". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 hours ago, (XB1)Chroma Prime said: DE put all the nodes on "armistice". They even took the name's of our alliances/clans off the nodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Izaliths Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I never got to participate in solar rails back then (Or raids for that matter) being able to experience what those modes were like in any form would be pretty nice plus It would give meaning to clans and alliances again outside of just being another chat bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)GbHaseo Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 On 2020-02-11 at 2:17 PM, (XB1)The Repo Man151 said: That's not true. And even if it was, that is indicative of a problem with the players playing it, rather than with the game itself. Take Soccer and Baseball for instance. Millions of people play them just fine and have a great time doing so. Yes, many do enjoy it, but there's a ton of toxicity in those sports as well. I mean even in Little League level, it can get pretty bad. Of course it's the players fault, not the games. PvP games are notorious for toxicity, and WF wouldn't likely be any different. Apex, Fortnite, Overwatch, League of Legends, CS:GO, Rainbow 6, all have a ton of toxicity. One trip to the forums, Reddit, region chat, the big partners chats, can show the community isn't in the best place right now. I don't know if it's the right time to introduce PvP. Just working on it alone, could cause ppl to get upset, bc of the state of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 2020-02-14 at 3:35 AM, (PS4)GbHaseo said: Yes, many do enjoy it, but there's a ton of toxicity in those sports as well. I mean even in Little League level, it can get pretty bad. Of course it's the players fault, not the games. PvP games are notorious for toxicity, and WF wouldn't likely be any different. Apex, Fortnite, Overwatch, League of Legends, CS:GO, Rainbow 6, all have a ton of toxicity. One trip to the forums, Reddit, region chat, the big partners chats, can show the community isn't in the best place right now. I don't know if it's the right time to introduce PvP. Just working on it alone, could cause ppl to get upset, bc of the state of the game. Warframe's community is already extremely toxic. Just look at how people in this thread react to the mere concept of PvP in their beloved game. Not to mention this recent Primed Chamber fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)GbHaseo Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 10 hours ago, (XB1)The Repo Man151 said: Warframe's community is already extremely toxic. Just look at how people in this thread react to the mere concept of PvP in their beloved game. Not to mention this recent Primed Chamber fiasco. That's very true, which is why as much I'd love some PvP of some kind. I'm just not sure it's the right time. I often wonder if the time to introduce has passed 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methanoid Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Rails/Dark Sectors have been firmly slotted into the Soon(tm) going on never rework pile, if they cant monetize and timegate the hell out of it then it its not worth their attention.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sdaly96 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 So an idea I had to stop clans/alliances from freely putting up protection rails was to have it so they would have to do a mission (maybe an interception) to decode the "address" for the rail, akin to a security access code, to give them the option to deploy. Make them have to work to get the chance to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2020-02-15 at 5:05 PM, Methanoid said: if they cant monetize and timegate the hell out of it then it its not worth their attention.. An unfortunate truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Cram Duahcim Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) On 2019-12-22 at 10:37 AM, (NSW)Ace-Bounty-Hunter said: I hope not. PvP can go die in a fire, as far as I'm concerned. I agree this game doesn't need PvP. You wont ever properly balance it. If I want to play a PvP game I'll go play it. It's why I like warframe, has no PvP to it at all. Squad link looks very intriguing to me. I do think the idea can be applied to PvE. I dont want PvP to infiltrate this community lol Edited February 17, 2020 by (XB1)Cram Duahcim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 hours ago, (XB1)Cram Duahcim said: I dont want PvP to infiltrate this community PvP and PvE are the same community in this game. We both are part of the Warframe community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanFanel1980mx Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Only until Warbros is completely gone from the game, we can't risk having the former #1 clan out there pointing out more game flaws and finding more gaping holes in the game's code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 19 hours ago, VanFanel1980mx said: Only until Warbros is completely gone from the game, we can't risk having the former #1 clan out there pointing out more game flaws and finding more gaping holes in the game's code. It is entirely possible that other players can rise up and beat them. Do you not have faith in the potential of the community to organize and collectively handle threats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kakurine2 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Pvp will stay mostly dead. Warframe doesn't work for pvp at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanFanel1980mx Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, (XB1)The Repo Man151 said: It is entirely possible that other players can rise up and beat them. Do you not have faith in the potential of the community to organize and collectively handle threats? It is not even about being able to compete with them (considering DE has reset some leaderboards in past events when Warbros was winning by also pointing out bugs) but the idea of those players doing a ton of beta test chores efficiently, in most cases a developer would be quite grateful when the game's flaws are pointed out but DE can't stand that, now imagine having a big clan whose internal structure was broken by the devs and it still lives on, besides, the thing about the solar rails wasn't even a tyrannical rule by Warbros but quite the opposite, they usually took an important sector and put the lowest tax on it, contrary to the other clans which seemed to also have infinite credits to pay others so players would feel quite tempted to just destroy Warbros's rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 hours ago, VanFanel1980mx said: It is not even about being able to compete with them (considering DE has reset some leaderboards in past events when Warbros was winning by also pointing out bugs) but the idea of those players doing a ton of beta test chores efficiently, in most cases a developer would be quite grateful when the game's flaws are pointed out but DE can't stand that, now imagine having a big clan whose internal structure was broken by the devs and it still lives on, besides, the thing about the solar rails wasn't even a tyrannical rule by Warbros but quite the opposite, they usually took an important sector and put the lowest tax on it, contrary to the other clans which seemed to also have infinite credits to pay others so players would feel quite tempted to just destroy Warbros's rail. I don't even think of Warbros when it comes to PC rails. I think of groups like ICE or LotE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 2020-02-18 at 8:08 PM, (PS4)Kakurine2 said: Pvp will stay mostly dead. Warframe doesn't work for pvp at all. How can you be so sure? PvP is played much more in Warframe than people like you believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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