ReW1zeR Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) At the 16th rank of mastery, all possibilities are opened. What is the point of increasing it further? Definitely to show off to friends (but it's stupid). In addition to the imaginary advantages of increasing the rank, I propose adding something worthwhile so that players have an incentive to strive to achieve the maximum rank, which, in principle, is logical and should be in the every game. For example, you can increase rewards for sorties with a rank of mastery or add a passive booster. In general, something really useful. Edited December 29, 2019 by ReW1zeR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanholic7 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 no,ty, rank grind should be "forced" by rewards. Im telling this as Mr 27 and still. And you know, ranks give you smol rewards, but why do u think they should give u huge rewards? Seriously, if you want only rewards for your every breath - jsut do things with rewards,not ranks. Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uthael Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Instead of one huge reward, there are a whole bunch of smaller advantages, which add up: - At MR28, all your unranked gear has 28 mod capacity. 56 with a potato. - Higher daily reputation caps, which can help you progress faster OR increase your plat income if trading. - More trades per day - Larger Void Traces storage - Higher maximum level of enemies in Simulacrum (useful for testing) - Higher daily Focus cap But there's one drawback because of which I refuse to do a MR19 test: - MR 16, 17 and 18 have a really nice sigil shape. I've turned it upside down, enlarged it and am using it as a fashion accessory in place of a syandana. Devs please, let us be able to use all previous MR sigil shapes! Edit: I'm thankful that ranking up means nothing but saving time. I like my sigil. Edited December 29, 2019 by Uthael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweredith Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 I like the daily reputation pool increase as it shortens the faction grind quite a bit compared to new players, and that is an advantage I find having fair. One addition I would like to see is focus gain scaling with MR. Other than that, I don't think we should add more things because we are getting quite close to mr30, at which point I think DE should create something new instead of going over MR30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabreracer Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, Uthael said: Instead of one huge reward, there are a whole bunch of smaller advantages, which add up: - At MR28, all your unranked gear has 28 mod capacity. 56 with a potato. - Higher daily reputation caps, which can help you progress faster OR increase your plat income if trading. - More trades per day - Larger Void Traces storage - Higher maximum level of enemies in Simulacrum (useful for testing) - Higher daily Focus cap But there's one drawback because of which I refuse to do a MR19 test: - MR 16, 17 and 18 have a really nice sigil shape. I've turned it upside down, enlarged it and am using it as a fashion accessory in place of a syandana. Devs please, let us be able to use all previous MR sigil shapes! Edit: I'm thankful that ranking up means nothing but saving time. I like my sigil. This makes a big difference. It felt massively slower when I made a new Alt and trying to gain Rep for Ostron, Solaris and Quills Even at MR17 compared with my org acct it's noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeWurrum Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 MR is worthless because it doesn't mean anything. It means you have a lot of gear. But is your gear actually modded well? No way to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uthael Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) @Sabreracer - Yeah. I've said that they add up. If one doesn't care much about how their sigil looks or likes how ones at higher ranks look, ranking up is totally worth it! Edited December 29, 2019 by Uthael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_PPS Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Uthael said: - At MR28, all your unranked gear has 28 mod capacity. 56 with a potato. This would be amazing. It should be implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, George_PPS said: This would be amazing. It should be implemented. This had been the case for a long time. Your starting capacity is your MR. You still need to level it from 1, but you can treat it like it's already level <MR> for modding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorrode Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Increased trades IS a VERY strong motivation As some people would say trading is end game and more trades=more plat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uthael Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Uthael said: - At MR28, all your unranked gear has 28 mod capacity. 56 with a potato. 24 minutes ago, George_PPS said: This would be amazing. It should be implemented. This is already implemented, you know... Everything I listed is. Edited December 29, 2019 by Uthael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel_Rook Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Personally, I'm of the opinion that MR shouldn't HAVE any rewards, at least not after a point. The MR grind is long, boring and ultimately unfulfilling as you cycle through worthless garbage not to use, but to tick a box. I'd personally rather leave it as a list of collectables, like what the Profile -> My Profile -> Equipment screen is. People who like collecting things will collect things. People who don't like collecting things don't really benefit from being forced to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volinus7 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 hours ago, ReW1zeR said: it's stupid You should wait until DE un-dumb Warframe (may not happen) in that particular part before you play it further. Warframe MR system is a sunk cost indicator for DE(useful? lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xikto Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Well in this case i would say it is not completely worthless to be high MR but at the same time it is not fulfilling enough if u reach said MR they should add as 7 minutes ago, Steel_Rook said: Personally, I'm of the opinion that MR shouldn't HAVE any rewards, at least not after a point. The MR grind is long, boring and ultimately unfulfilling as you cycle through worthless garbage not to use, but to tick a box. I'd personally rather leave it as a list of collectables, like what the Profile -> My Profile -> Equipment screen is. People who like collecting things will collect things. People who don't like collecting things don't really benefit from being forced to do so. said it should have at the minimum some sort of benefit be it some nice cosmetics but the fact that u don't get anything really mention worthy is kinda underwhelming yes having more mod capacity at the beginning of your weapon lvling is nice but surely it is not sth i would call a benefit in long run having higher standing cap is also nice but no use if ur already max so getting to MR 24 from MR 23 seems to have 0 useful benefits at least with some cosmetic u would have some thing! at the same time they should not and i repeat should not add some gear/weapon/something that makes too much a difference in higher mastery ranks that would a be a horrible idea just sth small but at the same time nice like cosmetics maybe give u the option to chose from different cosmetics same as login reward does for some gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel_Rook Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, Xikto said: said it should have at the minimum some sort of benefit be it some nice cosmetics but the fact that u don't get anything really mention worthy is kinda underwhelming Well, then don't bother. That's my point. MR is dreadful as a concept, so leaving it entirely optional would have been preferable, in my opinion. Leave it as a bragging rights reward for people who like to collect stuff, don't push people who don't like collecting stuff into it. Simple as that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenno76856 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Is there a reason why they havent added more weapons requiring MR 15+?. Always been mystified by that as personally speaking getting to a higher mr allows me to use weapons i couldnt previously. Its more tangible reward imho that say larger void traces storage (though useful isnt obvious ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) If DE made higher MR actually matter beyond gravy, all the lazy and entitled players would scream and cry so much (more than they already do) that DE would just revert the changes. See: when Arbitrations lost their whole permadeath gimmick and all of the slightly challenging Nightwave tasks were removed. Edited December 29, 2019 by (XB1)Erudite Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 hours ago, NigglesAU said: Is there a reason why they havent added more weapons requiring MR 15+?. Always been mystified by that as personally speaking getting to a higher mr allows me to use weapons i couldnt previously. Its more tangible reward imho that say larger void traces storage (though useful isnt obvious ) I feel like it's better to have fewer weapons that require high MR. Part of the fun of Warframe is being able to try out so many unique things, and locking them in higher MR ranks goes against that. Personally, I don't think any weapon should require anything beyond MR12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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