PSA PSA: Heirloom Collection Platinum Changes & Lessons

[Kaziroh]

7 minutes ago, (XBOX)Shodian said:

Thats why you get a bunch of premium currency on top of the skins. You're not just buying skins.

Yeah you buying skins and getting some premium fillers as excuse for inflated prices

[Somnia]

How about:

• You don't include platinum/aya in the pack at all,
• discount the price,
• make the skins available for platinum purchase, (you still get the money this way, from someone, somewhere)
• and don't make them available for a limited time. (they will bring in more money over time)

I bought it, you can see that I bought it, and I can plainly see all of that needs to be changed. You think it would be unfair to me to remove the time limit? Nah, this is unfair to your community. It's predatory and preys on FOMO. This isn't Excal Prime in those critical early days, and I was there for that, too.

Edited September 1, 2023 by Somnia

[NumiTheAvali]

15 minutes ago, (XBOX)Shodian said:

Thats why you get a bunch of premium currency on top of the skins. You're not just buying skins.

If i want platinum I'll trade for it, I just want the skins, Not the cheap filler attached to them.

[KosmicKnight]

At this point.  Anyone having that 10 year badge....will be looked at as a badge of shame. 

For spending money on this and making the game worse for everyone else. 

Because it will just encourage DE to do this again.

[TypeZeroEmiya]

On 2023-08-31 at 3:08 AM, [DE]Megan said:

If we continue with this series, we are dedicated to ensuring all future Heirloom Collection releases have more purchase flexibility and reflect all feedback we received during this launch.

If you guys really understand what DE tries to tell you behind this sentence...

Edited September 1, 2023 by TypeZeroEmiya

[G0D5peed]

I’m just curious as to whether or not there are going to be other heirloom skins and how quickly they’ll come out??? 
The price point is high. Too high to feel the need to collect them all. Especially for frames one doesn’t consistently use, or favor.
That said it’ll be a “feels bad” experience if there’s only one set a year or even if it’s the same or slower then prime releases.

mag and frost are cool and the skin are beautiful but I’m not spending $69-$89 dollars on frames I have played in over a year and aren’t even in my top 10 favorites. 

[Thunderlord_Zinogre]

2 hours ago, XaelathRavenstorm said:

Nah I'm not spoiled and you're the one that's lacking principles. Why not leave as be? Why can't people support there favorite devs? Why are you mad that people are purchasing this to support devs or just want unique new cosmetics? Don't be a gatekeeper. If you don't want to buy or can't afford it that's it.

This is what being devoid of principals looks like.

 

You dont get to decide.

[Cerikus]

11 minutes ago, KosmicKnight said:

At this point.  Anyone having that 10 year badge....will be looked at as a badge of shame. 

Ok. You crossed the line.

People are insulting each other left and right in this thread, but ONLY because they have different opinions and that's fine.
What you are implying is that people with a badge should be shamed. That is too much.

Certain people were marked with badges in 1941, because there was this whole group (I won't name) that disagreed with their entire existence.

You can disagree with the packs, you can disagree with people who buy them, but what you did is disgusting.

[Thunderlord_Zinogre]

1 hour ago, (NSW)Justarius said:

Your insulting peoples mental health and calling others toxic sludge to be "cleansed"
How are you even still allowed here.


also cope 

Weirdoes who think money begets them status always act like this, i cant tell if its better to ignore them or not.

[CosoMalvadoNG]

Lol this it's super stupid. People who defend bad practices because being part of these bad practices makes them feel superior, I think you need someone who really loves you and shows it to you. I recommend to all those who are complaining to stop, "DE" are not going to change their mind, it is obvious the path they plan to take with monetization with special events like tennocon and maybe any other future updates.

Edited September 1, 2023 by CosoMalvadoNG
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[Thunderlord_Zinogre]

2 minutes ago, Cerikus said:

Ok. You crossed the line.

People are insulting each other left and right in this thread, but ONLY because they have different opinions and that's fine.
What you are implying is that people with a badge should be shamed. That is too much.

Certain people were marked with badges in 1941, because there was this whole group (I won't name) that disagreed with their entire existence.

You can disagree with the packs, you can disagree with people who buy them, but what you did is disgusting.

Did you seriously just compare willingly spending frivolously and getting yelled at to genocide?

 

Why are you ancap weirdoes like this, you are NOT ABOVE INSULT.

 

People can go too far, but you took an action that has consequences, you dont get to decide what people are allowed to have opinions about because you already have one.

[drsnivy]

2 hours ago, Rawbeard said:

nobody bought it for that reason in the first week of a 4 month period.

I wouldn't use 'nobody' when you can't confirm nor assume that to be true

I know for a fact some people bought it for the exclusivity, and some (most) bought it for the skins.

DE is using the people that bought it for the limited nature as a way to go 'aww, well uhhhmm, we can't stop exploiting people, because that'd be unfair to the people we exploited!'

They're lucky there's laws to defend these practices, under the guise of protecting the consumer. (Can't remove exclusivity if people paid for it without being sued, basically, actually ends up HELPING exploit the consumer since it gives a 'well we legally can't fix this pack!')

 

[Cerikus]

1 minute ago, Thunderlord_Zinogre said:

Did you seriously just compare willingly spending frivolously and getting yelled at to genocide?

 

Why are you ancap weirdoes like this, you are NOT ABOVE INSULT.

 

People can go too far, but you took an action that has consequences, you dont get to decide what people are allowed to have opinions about because you already have one.

Every genocide began with ONLY badging, naming and shaming. Read a history book.

That person implied that people with the acolade should be shamed and there are enough idiots in the world that will happily do that.
This disgusts me. 

AS I SAID: Disagree with the packs, disagree with the peole who buy it, but shame someone for it and you HAVE crossed a line. 

BTW:

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[FireOox314]

il y a 1 minute, Cerikus a dit :

Every genocide began with ONLY badging, naming and shaming. Read a history book.

That person implied that people with the acolade should be shamed and there are enough idiots in the world that will happily do that.
This disgusts me. 

AS I SAID: Disagree with the packs, disagree with the peole who buy it, but shame someone for it and you HAVE crossed a line. 

BTW:

 

Daddy chill, you're the one not respecting the forum's rules rn, the first post you quoted to rant didn't encourage shame, it merely said that this is going too far and stating what might be 

[Reynard_Fox]

2 minutes ago, Cerikus said:

Every genocide began with ONLY badging, naming and shaming. Read a history book.

That person implied that people with the acolade should be shamed and there are enough idiots in the world that will happily do that.
This disgusts me. 

AS I SAID: Disagree with the packs, disagree with the peole who buy it, but shame someone for it and you HAVE crossed a line. 

BTW:

 

...you're seriously trying to quote quality standards at us after invoking Godwin's Law?

[CosoMalvadoNG]

This post becomes more and more sad and painful, don't you have to study or work? It is not difficult, people complain because the packages are poorly assembled. Why discuss something that makes sense with passionate arguments? you really need to deal with real people.

[Cerikus]

2 minutes ago, FireOox314 said:

Daddy chill, you're the one not respecting the forum's rules rn, the first post you quoted to rant didn't encourage shame, it merely said that this is going too far and stating what might be 

32 minutes ago, KosmicKnight said:

Anyone having that 10 year badge....will be looked at as a badge of shame. 

For spending money on this and making the game worse for everyone else. 

will be looked at
for spending money and making the game worse

Sure, definitelly not shaming, only a fear of what might be... 

[FireOox314]

il y a 1 minute, Cerikus a dit :

will be looked at
for spending money and making the game worse

Sure, definitelly not shaming, only a fear of what might be... 

You're just picking a part of a post to make your previous one looks legit, that's low

[PublikDomain]

And so we see the cost of manufactured exclusivity.

On 2023-08-30 at 12:31 PM, PublikDomain said:

These packs encourage the same toxic elitism and harassment felt from and because of the Founders program still to this day.

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Okay, so I understand why people are frustrated with the price of the Heirloom packs.
But it doesn't give you right to be a $&*^ to whose who bought the pack.
People obviously like the game and want to show their support for the title, they shouldn't be frowned upon for doing so.

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Similarly, those getting it should not be $&*^s about people's issues with it.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/164ms5l/dont_be_a_$&*^_to_people_who_bought_the_heirlooms/

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I've been noticing a lot of people actively attacking my friend for buying the Mag and Frost bundle I myself also have this bundle and already had 10 people verbally attack me for just wearing the frost heirloom on my mirage

https://old.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/16394ip/it_has_come_to_my_attention_that_some_of_yall/

You can also find some posters here on the forums, though I won't name names, who have been engaging in negative behaviour speaking down to those that take issue with these packs.

Isn't this such a wonderful way to celebrate the game's 10 year anniversary?

There's no reason for it. DE needs to do some serious soul searching if this is the "future of Warframe" they want to see.

[Cerikus]

1 minute ago, FireOox314 said:

You're just picking a part of a post to make your previous one looks legit, that's low

I didn't misquote, I didn't take out of context. The post is in plain simple english and has one very explicit interpretation.
Saying that person didn't mean what they obvisouly did is just disingenuous.

[FireOox314]

il y a 2 minutes, Cerikus a dit :

I didn't misquote, I didn't take out of context. The post is in plain simple english and has one very explicit interpretation.
Saying that person didn't mean what they obvisouly did is just disingenuous.

I don't know why I'm taking time to answer you at this point, maybe you're a cool guy who's having a bad day idk, but I don't think that the part you omitted magically dissapeared from your quote so it has to be intentional, still read the initial post, maybe you'll realize that your argument is misguided

[Cerikus]

Just now, FireOox314 said:

I don't know why I'm taking time to answer you at this point, maybe you're a cool guy who's having a bad day idk, but I don't think that the part you omitted magically dissapeared from your quote so it has to be intentional, still read the initial post, maybe you'll realize that your argument is misguided

Ok, this is the whole post:

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At this point.  Anyone having that 10 year badge....will be looked at as a badge of shame. 

For spending money on this and making the game worse for everyone else. 

Because it will just encourage DE to do this again.

At this point. - Now
Anyone having that 10 year badge. - People who bought the pack
will be looked at as a badge of shame. - will be shamed for it
For spedning money on this and making the game worse for everyone else. - those who bought it made the game worse for everyone
Because it will just encourage DE to do this again. - DE won't change

Can you please tell me where I made an error in understanding the post? It's entirely possible, english is not my native language.

[Skoomaseller]

39 minutes ago, Cerikus said:

Every genocide began with ONLY badging, naming and shaming. Read a history book.

it's a beautiful day on the forums innit

and he still has the gall to quote rule 2 😭 come on man look in a mirror or something 

Edited September 1, 2023 by Skoomaseller

[(XBOX)toughdragon17]

On 2023-08-30 at 2:08 PM, [DE]Megan said:

If we continue with this series, we are dedicated to ensuring all future Heirloom Collection releases have more purchase flexibility and reflect all feedback we received during this launch.

If your going to do the packs like you did with this one dont bother we don't want your greedy packs and your fomo tactics  greedy DEcent

We did want a pack with only the cosmetics thats not inflated by plat and aya but you guys are so greedy that you didn't listen to your fans and instead added more plat  WHEN THATS NOT WHAT WE WANTED 

You just see your fans as walking wallets you can squeeze dry with greedy tactics as this one and the previous aya debacle (which you apparently didn't learn from or care about)

Greedy DEcent Megan  

[Cerikus]

6 minutes ago, Skoomaseller said:

come on man look in a mirror or something

Didn't help. What's the next step?

I am sorry that I am outraged about disgusting people who are already harassing players in game for the purchase as we speek...