Terumitsu Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) So, by the current progression system, unless DE does eventually decrease the amount of mastery points needed for rank 30, If we by the current percentages of sources of mastery points then the final counts of non-exclusive items required to be obtainable are as follows: ~490 weapons ~85 Warframes ~22 Sententials and their unique weapons And a final count of ~887 map nodes. Now, seeing that we're resting at 140 or so weapons and under 30 frames and so on, I would think that either there is a hell of a lot to come or there will probably be some changes at some point. Now, an interesting point to make is that because the game follows a geometric progression rather than a linear one, we aren't even at the half way point for content. That would be at midway through Mastery Rank 22. And there was some rounding done here but I'm fairly certain that it would be fairly difficult or at least interesting to somehow incorporate 1/4th of a warframe into the leveling system. This isn't a critique or anything, mind. Just some information that I thought was kinda interesting if a bit silly. I'd also say that it's hardly indicative of anything as I can't really project the final percentages of affinity granting items and must go off of what is already present. Edit: Numbers edited to more correct amounts as I apparently folded in an exclusive or two in there by accident in the original figures. And because I mentioned actual math: 132 non-exclusive weapons = 396,000 rank points 23 frames = 138,000 points 6 Sentenals + Weapons = 54,000 points 239 map nodes worth 14,724 points or an average of ~61.61 points per node. Total = 605,724 or what you can see on the wiki. Next bit is just some dividing: 396,000/605,724 = .6537 or ~65.4% of total affinity gotten from weapons 138,000/605,724 = .2278 or ~22.8% from warframes 54,000/605,724 = .0891 or ~9% from sentenals 14,724/605,724 = .0243 or ~2% from nodes Extrapolating the percentages based upon the minimum requirement of 2,250,000 points to get to rank 30: 2,250,000*.6537 = 1,470,825 total points. /3000 = 490.275 2,250,000*.2278 = 512,550 total points. /6000 = 85.425 2,250,000*.0891 = 200,475 total points. /9000 (because sentenals grant 200 per rank while weapons grant only 100) = 22.275 2,250,000*.0243 = 54,675 total points. /61.61 = 887.43710436617432235026781366661 Edited May 19, 2014 by Terumitsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepOnFlowing Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) I got bored, so here's a funny meme: Edited May 19, 2014 by BecomeLikeWater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I got bored, so here's a funny meme: Full O'Crappy wants his quote back ! Fox News 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drMightyPotato Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I got bored, so here's a funny meme: This is a stupid response to a informative OP. You bring shame to yo' famiry. On topic tho, those numbers sure are large and, if DE's current pacing of content adding is something to go by, it would take quite a few years for them to achieve it. I DO hope they dont make some stupid S#&$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krux- Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 So, by the current progression system, unless DE does eventually decrease the amount of mastery points needed for rank 30, If we by the current percentages of sources of mastery points then the final counts of non-exclusive items required to be obtainable are as follows: ~507 weapons ~83 Warframes ~21 Sententials and their unique weapons And a final count of ~767 map nodes. Now, seeing that we're resting at 140 or so weapons and under 30 frames and so on, I would think that either there is a hell of a lot to come or there will probably be some changes at some point. Now, an interesting point to make is that because the game follows a geometric progression rather than a linear one, we aren't even at the half way point for content. That would be at midway through Mastery Rank 22. And there was some rounding done here but I'm fairly certain that it would be fairly difficult or at least interesting to somehow incorporate 1/4th of a warframe into the leveling system. This isn't a critique or anything, mind. Just some information that I thought was kinda interesting if a bit silly. I'd also say that it's hardly indicative of anything as I can't really project the final percentages of affinity granting items and must go off of what is already present. thank you, that is interesting. Makes me feel better too, knowing we're not leaving beta any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 To add a serious post, you get the idea that DE may not have thought it through, shocking I know. Also, higher rank gives the player nothing, and that probably wont change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacedkadet Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Also, higher rank gives the player nothing, and that probably wont change. Everyone saying this will cry like a baby when the focus system is released ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveCricket48 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 We need more high mastery rank weapons, as well as be able to deploy more extractors with a higher mastery rank, and other various things tied to MR. Not just some fancy new abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra9una Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Well mastery right now is still being worked on, so odds are things will change very much before we get to MR 30. At least I hope so. Also, I see no math... I was promised math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Everyone saying this will cry like a baby when the focus system is released ;) Isn't focus based on the Xp that doesn't go to mastery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAN3MK Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Isn't focus based on the Xp that doesn't go to mastery? Thats the idea, as far as I'm aware at any rate. Everyone saying this will cry like a baby when the focus system is released ;) The current mastery system is unfit for purpose. Before they attach anything even remotely meaningful to it, it should be reworked from scratch or scrapped altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terumitsu Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 Well mastery right now is still being worked on, so odds are things will change very much before we get to MR 30. At least I hope so. Also, I see no math... I was promised math. There is now math rather than the end results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacedkadet Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I was also bored so here is some more Math: This year to date there has been 96000 points added to mastery in the form of 23 weapons, 3 frames and 1 sentinel + weapon. I hit mastery 16 just now and require 82176 to 17. If they keep up the same level of addition then mastery 17 should come around November, however they are slowing with the weapons and frames and instead are also adding more cosmetics so it could be nearer the end of the year. (im missing a total of 4 weapons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Atroxium Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Good thing to do when bored I guess. On topic, no relation to debate on this for me now. I dont see the point. Atleast for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbaliskInfinite Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Everyone saying this will cry like a baby when the focus system is released ;) *implying that Focus will be a huge game changer* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefanovich Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) I can't stop imagining a weapon that would be so powerful, it required Mastery Rank 30 to even know it exists. Wait... Dual Skana Prime. Edited May 20, 2014 by Stefanovich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yezzik Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Wonder what gameplay system will give Mastery next, and if it'll give a reasonable amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyfulmama Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 22 sentinels? Wonder who has the creativity to come up with such Sentinel ability diversity.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instinction Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) I can't stop imagining a weapon that would be so powerful, it required Mastery Rank 30 to even know it exists. Wait... Dual Skana Prime. I can tell you, the Skana Prime is not a powerful weapon, and the Dakra Prime outclasses it in every stat by a mile. Other than style points, there is no real reason to use it over the Dakra. To the op: Good info, I like seeing stuff like this. Edited May 20, 2014 by Instinction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Momaw Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Personally I would not be surprised if mastery points get folded somehow into mission completion. For example, maybe in the proxy wars system there will be a "campaign" of missions that chain together, and every time you complete the chain you get a few mastery points. Or give mastery points for getting certain scores in the elusive reputation system. Or for killing bosses. Etc. 22 sentinels? Wonder who has the creativity to come up with such Sentinel ability diversity.. >_> https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/230444-some-sentinel-flavors/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Dont worry! They will release MASTERY CORES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aercascade Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 646401779 = The amount of times the prodman meme has been used, take away the amount of posts currently on the forum (2535037) =643866742 take away todays date which is the 5/20/2014! = 638664728 Divide by 52 threads dedicated to the trinity nerf. = 12282014 Which is a US date! 12/28/2014! Which means the rapture is coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Insane_Monday Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 646401779 = The amount of times the prodman meme has been used, take away the amount of posts currently on the forum (2535037) =643866742 take away todays date which is the 5/20/2014! = 638664728 Divide by 52 threads dedicated to the trinity nerf. = 12282014 Which is a US date! 12/28/2014! Which means the rapture is coming! Does this also mean Half Life 3 confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aercascade Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Does this also mean Half Life 3 confirmed? Well duh! That's why the rapture is coming dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegetableBasket Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Codex could give mastery, points for every star in it, meaning each enemy/boss/eximus, but also for each maxed mod, each maxed weapon/frame, and perhaps other things later.I'm going to post sometime in the near future about a star chart+ thing that I would like to see which basically adds difficulty levels akin to borderlands or diablo so the same levels can be replayed with added challenges and higher enemy levels, that's another way mastery could be done. But that's just a pipe dream. Edited May 20, 2014 by VegetableBasket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now