Sloan441 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I subscribe the Valkyr theory of her prime variant being somewhat different. Now for the speculation. The name is suggestive. Valkyr/Valkyrie. The chooser warframe. We all know where this is going and you've seen the chooser fanart. It's superb and fits very well with what we presently know. Valkyr was changed by AladV's experiments on her, but that doesn't mean Valkyr Prime's powers have to be radical different; just different in details. Ripline can become harpoon, with a summoned void spear. Warcry can remain as is (pretty straightforward stuff, but with different emotes/audio). Paralysis can either remain the same or made a knockdown with a spear ferule slam or sweep. Hysteria can be replaced with...hmm...this one is more problematic, but a berserker-style attack springs to mind using summoned weapons instead of claws. Just changes in the details. Anyway, that's just one way to go about integrating a prime version of Valkyr into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadwire Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Given to how DE do things. Don't aspect anything. Even if she got prime she probably look the same. Look how volt look now. But hey if we can see her a$$ more. Why not haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapClown Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) I hope her Prime is like this link to page https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/314349-come-home-tenno-valkyr-prime-pre-dissection-update-10714/ Edited March 30, 2015 by SlapClown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I would love for Valkyr Prime to look like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I would love for Valkyr Prime to look like this. This is, in my opinion, the best Valkyr Prime suggestion. I do really, really love this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firetempest Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Alad had access to many frames, many of which he chopped up. Valk could have just had the natural aggressive tendances he was looking for to bring under his control. Why build something new when you can just shock collar a pre-existing war machine to do your bidding. I don't think Valkyr changed much physically with her torture, other than peeled away frame layers to get to delicious nerves. Mostly mentally. I think Alads idea was Subdue Valk. Make her easy to transport. Drop her cage near the target, let her demolish everything in a frothing rage. Then re-subdue and re-package. Making her powers not caused by corpus. And their meddling with the armor to control her probably made her power focus weaker. So a Prime Valkyr being just as reckless and destructive makes all the sense. Edited March 30, 2015 by Firetempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)CaptainRemo Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I think Hysteria - and even Warcry - being fueled by her hate and rage and, most of all, pain is the ultimate outcome of that. I think her original form had those same abilities but they were fueled by another emotion/state of mind. Either a sense of noble duty (if Valkyr Prime is given the "honorable warrior" route) Or just sheer, frivolic JOY at seeing enemies meet her in battle and be slaughtered by her (if Valkyr Prime is given the "blood knight" route) NO. Please don't do something like this DE. This is a total cop-out. Valkyr was abused and that is what made her into what she is. To identify who she MIGHT have been prior to Salad V messing with her lets look at the name first: Valkyr This name is a reference to the Norse Valkyries that would pick which warriors are taken to the afterlife. Often times they were seen as royalty and lovers of Norse heroes. If they were to make a prime Valkyr they should use these as roots. I would have her look more like the royalty of the Tenno. Then for abilities: Rip Line might now become something that allows her to create a link with allies splitting the damage between that ally and herself. Using on an enemy can can pull them to her or something of the sort. Warcry I would make more of a buff to players and debuff to enemies, removing shields of all enemies around her and reducing armor for armored enemies and then giving that to the players around her regenerating their shields and increasing armor. Her Paralysis should be switched entirely and instead be given an ability to "soothe" her enemies making them passive for the duration of the skill. Also if she uses it again, her enemies will fight for her. Finally for Hysteria, I'd have it Valkyr enter a kind of goddess state where all downed allies are instantly revived. Also she is given a giant lance and she uses that do damage enemies. WHile in the goddess state she takes regular damage but can heal with normal hits. Also when she aims she can throw her lance causing an AOE wherever the lance strikes. Trade off for the lance throw is that the closer to death she is the more damage the lance throw does. This is something just off the top of my head, but its a better idea than the same Valkyr with a different look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monybags33 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Gesh everyone is now starting to say this why, has anyone read up on her lore or just assuming before doing so? Valkyre has been "modified" by the Corpus to god knows what degree and we never really got a peek at what she looked like before they ever got to her. As for her Primed Version this is something the Corpus "have not" touched and thus would look like any other frame out their exepect for possibly changing how her 4th ability appears when she is in that mode. ....honestly Corpus creating a Warframe....are we going to say another year from now Alad V created Mesa to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Gesh everyone is now starting to say this why, has anyone read up on her lore or just assuming before doing so? Valkyre has been "modified" by the Corpus to god knows what degree and we never really got a peek at what she looked like before they ever got to her. As for her Primed Version this is something the Corpus "have not" touched and thus would look like any other frame out their exepect for possibly changing how her 4th ability appears when she is in that mode. ....honestly Corpus creating a Warframe....are we going to say another year from now Alad V created Mesa to? the "lore" that is written states that she was created , but people who have done the event told me that it is incorrect and only written like that for fancy wording. the other thread was started by a guy who doesnt know to much. and here you go : https://www.warframe.com/game/warframes/valkyr read the lines. It may say shes was created but its not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-Arcadia Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I just arrive didnt read thread, Nova was primed therefore everything can be primed, even my slippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyDragon Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Basically they bolted big corpus squares to her arms, legs, and head. The experiment was so brutal they couldn't be bothered to blend it into the model in any meaningful way That darn wacky alad v breaking 4th wall with his terrible designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Basically they bolted big corpus squares to her arms, legs, and head. The experiment was so brutal they couldn't be bothered to blend it into the model in any meaningful way That darn wacky alad v breaking 4th wall with his terrible designs. Breaking the fourth wall? What you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Breaking the fourth wall? What you mean? "the fourth wall" is a terrible english name for how when actors are in a movie or a play,they act as if the audience doesnt even exist,to maintain immersion as it were to "break the fourth wall" refers to for no discernible reason,the cast and crew,in the middle or near the end of something,decide to interact with the audience,thus so called ruining the immersion into the fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 "the fourth wall" is a terrible english name for how when actors are in a movie or a play,they act as if the audience doesnt even exist,to maintain immersion as it were to "break the fourth wall" refers to for no discernible reason,the cast and crew,in the middle or near the end of something,decide to interact with the audience,thus so called ruining the immersion into the fantasy No, no, no, I KNOW what the Fourth Wall is, I know what breaking it is, Deadpool's my favorite Marvel character for it! I'm asking why he's saying Alad V's broken the fourth wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) No, no, no, I KNOW what the Fourth Wall is, I know what breaking it is, Deadpool's my favorite Marvel character for it! I'm asking why he's saying Alad V's broken the fourth wall. he is implying a complete non sequiter that somehow,the ingame experiments in the lore on the original valkyr were so brutal,that it caused the devs in the irl to not even bother trying to mesh the big blocky corpus things into valky properly,hence "lazy sculpter" syndrome and of course this non sequiter by implication says alad the v is somehow messing with the dev's minds,despite the obvious seperation between ingame and irl im fairly certain that this was intended to be a joke due to the obvious implausibility of it Edited March 30, 2015 by GunDownGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 he is implying a complete non sequiter that somehow,the ingame experiments in the lore on the original valkyr were so brutal,that it caused the devs in the irl to not even bother trying to mesh the big blocky corpus things into valky properly,hence "lazy sculpter" syndrome and of course this non sequiter by implication says alad the v is somehow messing with the dev's minds,despite the obvious seperation between ingame and irl Ooooooooooh. That is pretty damn brutal XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 he is implying a complete non sequiter that somehow,the ingame experiments in the lore on the original valkyr were so brutal,that it caused the devs in the irl to not even bother trying to mesh the big blocky corpus things into valky properly,hence "lazy sculpter" syndrome and of course this non sequiter by implication says alad the v is somehow messing with the dev's minds,despite the obvious seperation between ingame and irl im fairly certain that this was intended to be a joke due to the obvious implausibility of it Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Allso I do not understand the continued resistance to Valkyr. Its not like Lotus takes out the bolts and "Primes" the warframe with her mojo. The Primes are found in connection to the Orokin and the Void. Edited March 30, 2015 by arch111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeacus Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) A common misconception i keep seeing is valkyr not being active or having existed during the old war. "Forged in the labs of the Zanuka project, the original Valkyr was subject to cruel experiments, leaving her scarred, angry and frighteningly adept at killing." Lore wise, the armour probably does have a prime variant, but no one knows what she originally looked like before her capture and modification. That said the lore has always been quite vague and confusing Edited March 30, 2015 by Aeacus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Knight Raime Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Unless someone from DE says a frame can't have a prime variant all frames can have a prime version. Lore wise there isn't enough their to tell us enough about valkyr. I could see the potential of her prime frame being completely different. But I feel like if she had different powers they might as well call her a different frame. I don't think any of the testing done to her changed her abilities. At most (imo) they simply influenced her current feelings and physical appearence to a degree. Look at it this way. The torturing obviously changed her in a way. She's the only frame to make noise really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokrzywa Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Well this is how normal Valkyr could look before Corpus enhancements...Warning i used my stronk paint skills, ereased some details and mirrored helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChameleonDude Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'd like to see a Valkyr Vandal too, Lotus repairing some of the damage and changing her style. Also, it sounds cool. But yeah, prime can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailsx Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Valkyrie influenced valkyr prime with a Gram prime please. Sigurd of volsung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Valkyr's too popular not to get primed. I wouldn't expect the abilities to change one iota either. Game play always takes precedence over lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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