mrhat.lf Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 It's a sea of helium, methane and ammonia. Not water, although it is called water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toppien Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticMoss Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 That´s just plain wrong and you should know since that stuff is 4th grade stuff. Either auto ignition temperature of the material is met or different oxidation agents are used, like fluorine can be oxidation agent for hydrogen. It won't last without O2 fire runs off O2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dama73 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 You do know OP Uranus has several moons... maybe the water world tileset is set on one of them, many of them such as Ariel are largely comprised of rock and ICE... so the idea of one of Uranus's moons being terraformed into a large Ocean by the Orokin for whatever reason isn't that hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangofett Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 If they were to apply logic to a game. How can it even progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridBurn Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) "Our upcoming Underwater Tileset provides a small glimpse behind the veil of Grineer industry, hidden away in Uranus' vast ocean of helium, methane and ammonia." I'm sorry, I can't anymore.... All this talk of Uranus being full of methane, I can't even X'D | Warframe has become a fart joke. I'm ashamed but I have to post this, forgive me. Also on a more relative note, you do not need oxygen for combustion, depending on how you define combustion of course but most things that burn in oxygen will also do so in chlorine often much more violently. Some endothermic reactions are hot and violent and do not require any oxydising agent at all. Gravitational collapse of hydrogen being a prime example, Hydrazine combustion in rockets being another. So add the right catalyst to Uranus and you could cause quite a burnout. Edited May 6, 2015 by GridBurn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThingy Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 How would it ignite if their is no O2 to burn. You do not need ambient O2 to burn things. It's just easy to do in this atmosphere because there's so much. But lots of substances will burn when heated up enough. Thermite is super hard to put out because it can't be smothered. It oxygenates itself as it burns. It will burn even in a hard vacuum. And I'm pretty sure things like Helium and Methane burn all on their own without the need for O2 at all. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuyver Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 tfw DE continues to shove everything into uranus. I'm looking at you archwing mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Oh c'mon it's simple! You see, when a gas giant is made of... N-no, let me explain : Uranus got methane & does... Huh no wait! Tyl Regor got a huge machine of space magic with water bottles, and he... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 ...The forums need a downvote button... There was, but they got rid of it. Why? Because some people would just downvote something they dislike without giving constructive feedback... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Well i meant the planet same thing happened with Galileo when it was made to crash into Jupiter people were saying it would cause it to light the planet on fire. That would have been awesome.... I think I was 5 when it landed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridBurn Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) And I'm pretty sure things like Helium and Methane burn all on their own without the need for O2 at all. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here Helium is a noble, inert gas. It won't burn at all. Methane probably needs a catalyst or oxydising agent, simply applying a spark to a sealed container of pure methane does nothing. Edit: Also now that I think of it, Thermite pretty much burns the oxygen out of the rust (Iron Oxide) which is why you get iron. so the reaction provides it's own oxygen but the oxygen is in the system so not really relative to this discussion. Edited May 6, 2015 by GridBurn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidNomade Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Helium is a noble, inert gas. It won't burn at all. Helium Flash. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpdn Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Its a sea of liquid helium and other gases, because of the pressure. Though im not sure how the Grineer built such strong structures to withstand auch compression, but I guess if they can move a moon, anything's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S7ORM Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) [OP, or "Why we can't have nice things"] https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/453219-underwater-archwing/?p=5045152 the Anthropic Principle: For any given story, there exist basic elements that, no matter how improbable or impossible their occurrence, are required for the story itself to happen. Or there would be no story. In other words, there is no "resolution" without "conflict".) That about sums it up. Edited May 6, 2015 by S7ORM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticMoss Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Anything that would cause a fire on a gas giant it would be a comet All that is left from this is a big mark on the planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedCrusade Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Helium is a noble, inert gas. It won't burn at all. Methane probably needs a catalyst or oxydising agent, simply applying a spark to a sealed container of pure methane does nothing. Edit: Also now that I think of it, Thermite pretty much burns the oxygen out of the rust (Iron Oxide) which is why you get iron. so the reaction provides it's own oxygen but the oxygen is in the system so not really relative to this discussion. A year ago, at least over half this conversation would have made no sense to me.Thank you, Chemistry class... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Dont think and grind away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarozian Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 uranus moons COULD have water...........but as i understood.....they are making underwater tileset on Uranus itself Exactly what I was gonna say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Mazda_07_ Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Ninja space magic duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I choose to suspend my disbelief. If it's cool, fits in-universe and is internally consistent then it's fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunchBoxKilla Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Ice on mercury nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPhoenix Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Someone exploded a magic fusionzor bomb that fused all the gases in the atmosphere in a liquid. That isn't water you're swimming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatrix7hearts Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Most planets in warframe are really contradictory of their real life counterparts. All gas giants cant be terraformed even with this space magic, why? Is easy, they are more akin to a star than a habitable planet. You gotta think of having Schwartzchild radius big enough that all gas cant be compressed into an habitable atmosphere. In millions of years mercury, venus and earth are eaten by the sun being a Red Giant and most likely there would be more chances of planetoids of kuiper belt be more useful but would be monotonous as they are barren and cold. Lets face it, if we base it in real facts we would have half the stages we have now. Edited May 7, 2015 by Beatrix7hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriticalFumble Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Do I need to point out the link in the OP actually says that scientists actually do think there's an ocean down there? Secondarily, the article is from 2008, and the Wikipedia article on the planet (I know, Wikipedia, but still) is more or less in line with what DE presented? Or we could just keep going on about how funny the line, "this magic is impossible!" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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