Larsurus Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Kubrow number 3, named it Doodle, turned out to be a Chesa... Chesa Doodle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozom Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Nine so far, no Chesas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampoth Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I'm seriously starting to wonder if something is wrong with their random number generator at this point, we could potentially have another Asheron's Call situation where some players have seeds which are much better than others. It seems more and more likely as I play the game and interact with other players. I have friends who are the "lucky" ones and those who can't ever seem to get anything. We know that the drop tables are weighted, and that very rarely does DE ever give us fair chances on new things. But even considering that, the amount of times I've run void missions and gotten the same drops in the same order over and over again, and the screen shots and stories I see and hear from other players makes we wonder if they actually have a really bad PRNG or just a terrible implementation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Guys.... Buy the prints... Then sell the prints back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYL3NZR Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 so many things in this game are awfully rigged, im 100% sure neurode drops got stealth nerfed, and we all know the chance for a chesa is abysmal even if you were to spend 5k plat seeing how baro is turning into primed uselessness and prisma disappointment, multishot changes which will break the entire game, im starting to feel really driven away the latest syndicate primaries were not really an amazing move if you are steel/arbiters/suda (i kinda like my simulor) but i feel cheated with this useless garbage :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idzohra Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I was going to make a post asking if chesa is any good. I only git 2 kubrows because im pretty new. I guess she's good since she is so wanted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) I was going to make a post asking if chesa is any good. I only git 2 kubrows because im pretty new. I guess she's good since she is so wanted? Chesa is rare AF and gives 6000 mastery, that's why people want this nigh useless dog. Edited September 5, 2015 by Mofixil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idzohra Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Chesa is rare AF and gives 6000 mastery, that's why people want this nigh useless dog. Ty, so i got super lucky? My only i ever had are chesa and huras kubrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfdoggie Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 meanwhile i've got 3 chesa kubrows, and 2 lotus kubrows for my endevour so far..... So what you're saying is I should kill myself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 So what you're saying is I should kill myself? nope. what i'm saying is i'm willing to lend u my chesa imprints if afterwards when u make it, u return the imprints back to me :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfdoggie Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) nope. what i'm saying is i'm willing to lend u my chesa imprints if afterwards when u make it, u return the imprints back to me :p Sure if you want to. :O Add meh. :3 I saw that u msged me :x was alt tabbed. :< Edited September 5, 2015 by Wolfdoggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Sure if you want to. :O Add meh. :3 msg u ingame, guess u weren't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfdoggie Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 msg u ingame, guess u weren't there. Was alt tabbed watching a stream. I'll have it open naow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__-Storm-__ Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 i got 3 lotus kubrows 1 chunky tall Huras, another tall skinny huras. and 1 Stocky Med sized sahasa. Willing to trade a full set of any lotus patterned for a Tallest Stocky Chesa, doesnt need to have lotus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoybot Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Bred about 40 kubrows since U17 dropped. Six lotuses amongst them, still no Chesa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfdoggie Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Welp. After an exciting hour and a half of farming for my last egg I'm logging for the day. I guess if you were really serious I'll catch you some other time in-game. I give up on trying to beat RNG so it'll be sitting there for a long time. At least farming Void RNG gives me ducats~ I'm tired of running hundreds of earth captures for nothing but a credit/time sink: Just too frustrating. Really hope they improve this system instead of releasing Kavats into something so poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Reviving thread to Check up on people on their chesa breeding. Hows everyone rng treating them now? Btw just finish my 4th chesa kubrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheTinkster Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 First day, first try, first Chesa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Medo_ Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 First day, first try, first Chesa. rng REKT !! gj tenno :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZinGrin Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) I'm past 40 eggs I think, still lacking a Chesa. So glad I didn't spend the plat to buy/rush, I'd be out over 2000p by now I think. Edited September 10, 2015 by ZinGrin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaptor-Face Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 still missing one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SancticuS Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Raksa, Huras, Huras, Huras, Huras so far..... will update when I get next Huras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noteybook Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I'm gotten 3 Chesas since they were released, I think it's just RNG doesn't like you :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy864 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 10 - 15 trys, all different types, some Lotus, no Chesa. Actually having to try several times not bother me too much, I can always buy prints if I choose to give up. The credit cost for one incubation does seem a tad insane though. What actually bothers me: - not being able to use another Kubrow in the meantime (Carrier P scrub here) - not being able to hunt for eggs when I want to (also I had 3 eggs drop in one mission once... haha... gg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmerfMaruda Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Drop tables are bad? RNG generator is bad?Answer is very simple:RNG _by_desing_ is BAD.It is simple mechanic, easy to implement and use.. and it's overused in many games (not only mmo).Lets do some math:Assume that:- we have perfect RNG generator- each incubation is completely random (e.g. does not depends on previous incubations)- all 5 kubrows have same chance (20%). (yeah.. right.. it's probably <5% :P)Now.. what is chance of getting Chesa kubrow:- in 1 incubation: 20% (thats obvious)- in 2 incubations: 1-(1-0,2)^2 = 0,36 (36%) (that's less obvious - many people think "40%")- in 3 incubations: 1-(1-0,2)^3 = 0,488 (48,8%)- in 10 incubations: 1-(1-0,2)^10 ~= 0,8926 (~89,26%)- in 30 incubations: 1-(1-0,2)^30 ~= 0,99876 (~99,876%)You may think, that 99,876% is very big chance.. its almost sure that you get chesa..and.. you are right.But.. put this numbers in context.Chance 99,876% means that.. per 10'000 players.. there will be 12 unlucky ones that do not get chesa in 30 incubations!Even if every kubrow has same chance, and it is quote big: 20% per incubation!But what if chance is lower (10%)? (it probably is)Result: 95,761% chance for chesa in 30 incubations.. so per 10'000 players.. ~424 will be unlucky.With 5% chance: 78,536% in 30 incubations.. 2146 unlucky players per 10'000It is also: 99,408% chance in... 100 incubations!.. that means 59 per 10'000 players will so unlucky that will not get this kubrow.. after 100 incubations!And.. you must realize.. that 5% chance.. is.. big! In good-old-days when drop tables were not encrypted, you can see some void drops with 0,5%.According to wiki DE still has very bad habit to use extremally small chances (see http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Nightmare_Mode and drop chance of some nightmare mods: 0,670%. LOL).So.. I won't be suprised, that chesa has lower chance that 5%.But.. as I already said: EVEN with 20% chance, some unlucky players won't get it after 30 incubations.And.. with such large playerbase (certainly larger than 10'000 used in those examples), such bad thing will happens.. BY DESIGN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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