FoxyKabam Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Because PvP is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfDarkShadow Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Just let PVP die in peace.Honestly.You are wasting time and resoruces. Time developing that map could have been spent on something that MAJORITY of the playerbase enjoys and plays = PvE. No idea where you people get this idea from, as this is completely false. It's a very small team that are working/were hired specifically for Conclave. As they have said time and time again, not one developer working on the main core of the game has involvement with Conclave. And from the pictures alone, the Orokin assets were already in game to begin with, and they have already mentioned that they can use any tileset or general assets from PvE, and move them around to fit Conclave's gameplay, or create their own maps from the ground up. More likely then not, the Moon tileset is mostly, or has been already completed, and used some of it to create a new Conclave map to support the new update coming out.So no, not one bit of "time and resources" were wasted, and it's silly to think otherwise. Edited November 20, 2015 by HalfDarkShadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krion112 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 -snip- I would argue that time and resources could be wasted, in some eyes. Reason being is that time spent on PvP could have been dedicated to PvE instead, and as well instead of hiring a team to improve PvP, they could've hired a team to improve PvE. I'm not saying I think it's a waste, though, but arguably it could be a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazools Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Well the set design is pretty interesting but onr question comes to mind... Will this Moon tileset be a PVP and Second Dream only thing or a regular set that we'll be able to enjoy during normal PVE missions? Edited November 21, 2015 by Bazools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 pfft, if that third image shows a new replacement for the 'rotating doors' in Orokin architecture - by all means. that looks like something that two vertical halves articulate out and slide aside to reveal the opening - which would be a lot more elegant than the Rotating Doors we have in those Doorways now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesiga Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 that is. beautiful. we need a pick map function for PvP now, cause random maps are boring :c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Hope I'll be able to explore that map solo somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationalGuard5 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Clinging to the shattered remains of Earth's once-proud Moon, the Orokin Hall of Memories is an ideal place for Tenno to test their skill against each other. Our latest Conclave map, the Hall of Memories, will put Tenno to the test in the ruins of Orokin grandeur. Get a full behind-the-scenes look at our latest Capture the Cephalon map in this Conclave edition of Building Warframe, and let us know what you think! -DE_Adam If the Moon gets to be along with Earth in navigation, I think it'd be interesting (just an idea here) if parts of the Apollo landing craft were around. Then Lotus would be like: "Wait......those devices.....they look familiar......Tenno, those landing crafts were used back in the days of old, when the Tenno first landed here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewGuyson Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) This gif is just perfect... (sorry if you can't see that last picture(it's the moon)) Edited November 21, 2015 by MatthewGuyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Looks promising. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plushy Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 This is really not bringing out the best in the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp215 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 That wizard came from the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECTR_Eternal Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 M'a goodness... DE, I love you! It's freaking awesome! Seriously, trought all this salt I wanna say "Great Job!" Orokin architecture and styling fall deep into my heart as soon as Orokin Towers was released in Update...9? God, how many glorious things happened from that moment when I joined the game in U7... The way it looks, and I hope the way it plays... Astounishing. And hey, does a part about "methods of building and terraforming" that points to plants mean that the Glorious Orokin Trees are Moon origin?! o_0 That would be amazing! Keep up, folks! Made an Update 18 that will take our heart, that will make this game trully shine! We believe in you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eprstt Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 No idea where you people get this idea from, as this is completely false. It's a very small team that are working/were hired specifically for Conclave. As they have said time and time again, not one developer working on the main core of the game has involvement with Conclave. And from the pictures alone, the Orokin assets were already in game to begin with, and they have already mentioned that they can use any tileset or general assets from PvE, and move them around to fit Conclave's gameplay, or create their own maps from the ground up. More likely then not, the Moon tileset is mostly, or has been already completed, and used some of it to create a new Conclave map to support the new update coming out. So no, not one bit of "time and resources" were wasted, and it's silly to think otherwise. yeh, o'couse. but, eyh, "time and resources" was wasted. that "very small team" was can make something useful instead one more pvp-piece. wasted. something for Your players for that week? nope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-InV-igo95862 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Why do the PvP maps have better lighting and textures than the freaking PvE maps. Can your artists please put the same effort into PvE as they are into Conclave? Just compare any Conclave Void map to the regular void, and the Conclave version looks WAY better. Its same absolutely textures and lightning. The difference is PvE maps are just tunnels with small rooms. PvP maps can have more creative compositions. Here are some screenshots of the better looking conclave maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 All i see is people complaining about PvP getting a new map like PvE is never going to have the new tilesets. Seriously whats your problem people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerga-08 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 All i see is people complaining about PvP getting a new map like PvE is never going to have the new tilesets. Seriously whats your problem people? People get really butt hurt in this community when the devs decide to shine a spotlight on PvP. :v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptsarge Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 oh good another thing i'm not going to play because this game was never meant for pvp and for those who say they can multitask. lol the quality of pve content has been declining these last updates the only thing decent in there is the lore but warframes and weapons introduced are almost useless and deal no dmg at all aka they are just mastery fodder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 oh good another thing i'm not going to play because this game was never meant for pvp and for those who say they can multitask. lol the quality of pve content has been declining these last updates the only thing decent in there is the lore but warframes and weapons introduced are almost useless and deal no dmg at all aka they are just mastery fodder Im sure thats PvP teams fault. Im sure they are sorry for that aswell. This game was never meant for PvP? Who says that? Noone. You claim that. Games primary focus is PvE but that doesnt mean they cant PvP. I got everything in this game. Everything. Aside from putting Forma into random weapons i got nothing to do because i PvE content is pretty short. It was short before the PvP and its the same after it but atleast i got something to play now. I get to play with some skilled players and have fun with them. I actually have fun in PvP more than i have in PvE. PvP team is not in charge of the PvE. Saying " This game was never meant for PvP " is just mindless chatter. Nothing more. People who uses these words doesnt contribute to anything. Its just whining. Noone likes baseless whining. You not liking the PvP doesnt give you the right to whine about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.ThanksFrost- Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Im sure thats PvP teams fault. Im sure they are sorry for that aswell. This game was never meant for PvP? Who says that? Noone. You claim that. Games primary focus is PvE but that doesnt mean they cant PvP. I got everything in this game. Everything. Aside from putting Forma into random weapons i got nothing to do because i PvE content is pretty short. It was short before the PvP and its the same after it but atleast i got something to play now. I get to play with some skilled players and have fun with them. I actually have fun in PvP more than i have in PvE. PvP team is not in charge of the PvE. Saying " This game was never meant for PvP " is just mindless chatter. Nothing more. People who uses these words doesnt contribute to anything. Its just whining. Noone likes baseless whining. You not liking the PvP doesnt give you the right to whine about it. No he's right most of the mechanics in this game are designed for pve and thus their core framework won't work in a competitive setting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyKabam Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 This game was never meant for PvP? Who says that? Noone. DE did? course they went and added it because of player demand and we can all see how thats working out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-InV-igo95862 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) No he's right most of the mechanics in this game are designed for pve and thus their core framework won't work in a competitive setting Like which? Different warframes, abilities and weapons - just standard RPG elements. They can be used in competitive multiplayer games no problem. Edited November 21, 2015 by -CM-igo95862 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehgreg Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 No idea where you people get this idea from, as this is completely false. It's a very small team that are working/were hired specifically for Conclave. As they have said time and time again, not one developer working on the main core of the game has involvement with Conclave. And from the pictures alone, the Orokin assets were already in game to begin with, and they have already mentioned that they can use any tileset or general assets from PvE, and move them around to fit Conclave's gameplay, or create their own maps from the ground up. More likely then not, the Moon tileset is mostly, or has been already completed, and used some of it to create a new Conclave map to support the new update coming out. So no, not one bit of "time and resources" were wasted, and it's silly to think otherwise. No. However small the PvP team is, instead it could be working on projects that are connected with PvE. There are plenty of issues that they could focus their attention on. -sorting out single status mods (melee prowess, rifle aptitude, etc.) -buffing up stats of older weapons that are ONLY mastery fodder right now -figuring out new game modes So yeah, time and resources wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.ThanksFrost- Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 They can be used in competitive multiplayer games no problem. Not in this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 No. However small the PvP team is, instead it could be working on projects that are connected with PvE. Yeah, the people who plays the game for PvP and the ones who wants PvP to be something can go jump on Stalkers Hate or commit sudoku i guess. So yeah, time and resources wasted. Its not. Just because they are not working to make you happy doesnt mean they are working for nothing. There are people who likes pvp and pvp related things, at the very least you should show respect towards them. Saying its a waste is disrespectful. DE did? course they went and added it because of player demand and we can all see how thats working out I cant remember DE saying your words. All they said was " This game is primarily PvE Focused ". Also its working just right. Its not our or PvP teams fault that you see it like that. Its either your dislike towards it or you tried it once and got wrecked and never returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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