DarkOvion Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) So as of today, over the Fomorian Alerts we've done literally hundreds of runs to try and get the weapon. (300+) We've joined the many people with numerous parts, missing one the one part (Receiver) after hundreds of runs. And with the low chance of it dropping a part, and the resources needed for each Disruptor, means we've spent many hours trying to get this weapon... and it's just not worth it. As much as I like Archwing, as much as I want the weapon... it's just not worth it, and beyond my 1-2 to help towards the percentage and get my 75k, I don't know that I care anymore. Seriously, at this point with two of us doing 300+ runs we've spent: 750,000 Credits 2,100,000 Nano Spores 180,000 Cryotic 2,400 Isotopes. That's 900 Excavators alone ffs. Then having to farm those Isotypes, is something like 300-500 waves of Defence with a Nekros. It's just too much, in a game where they said they want to reduce the grind. Edited May 15, 2016 by DarkOvion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEP8FlyBoy Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 They really need to make it tradeable. It would really help these unlucky few such as yourself, who are just demolished by RNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkOvion Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 Just now, AEP8FlyBoy said: They really need to make it tradeable. It would really help these unlucky few such as yourself, who are just demolished by RNG. It's not even a few. Me and my partner of course, but the only people in our clan that have it, is the one guy that was there for the original operation. I see numerous on the forum, every time there's a Fomorian there's been numerous complaints. It's got to be a sizable percentage affected. And it's not just this, it's other things too. There really needs to be something to ensure after X, you will get these things. Or if everyone in a group has a thing, it's struck from the drop list until all items are acquired. Alternative, have everything in a 'reward store' with points granted for completing the missions... I don't know, but some of this stuff is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEP8FlyBoy Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, DarkOvion said: There really needs to be something to ensure after X, you will get these things. Or if everyone in a group has a thing, it's struck from the drop list until all items are acquired. Alternative, have everything in a 'reward store' with points granted for completing the missions... I don't know, but some of this stuff is absurd. A token system has been suggested before, but not for the Fomorian Raid missions. Also what you are describing is how the Sortie system works currently, and tbh it should probably become a game-wide thing at some point. Because some grinds for specific items/weapon parts are as you say "just absurdly tedious." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get_Singed Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Is this for real? I had my full Imperator Vandal in 5 runs, exactly 1 of each piece. Either you drew the short stick or I drew the long one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilerskull Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Ok, how the hell do you even check? I went into my foundry, inventory and found nothing. Ive gotten the BP, stock or barrel, not sure, Ive received parts many times but dont know which ones. Where do I go to check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkOvion Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 Inventory - Misc for parts, Inventory Archwing Weapons for BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Cephalon_Snow Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) I already have it but was running for cores today and got a receiver first run..and got a second one with my brother tonight. I wish I could trade it to u. Edited May 15, 2016 by (PS4)I420t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xekrin Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Cwellann Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Reitrahc said: Is this for real? I had my full Imperator Vandal in 5 runs, exactly 1 of each piece. Either you drew the short stick or I drew the long one. You should probably go buy a lottery ticket. I'd love for the IV to be tradable, it's a great gun, and the one spare I have would probably buy me a few catalysts. Plus, sortie weapon parts and Baro bought Vandal weapons are tradable, so I really don't see a downside. OP - there's at least a small upside - the farming of nano spores can pretty easily result in plenty of neurodes, 2100 Cryotic usually seems to give around 15 R5's (i.e. the amount you referenced is two primed mods maxed, with another brought up to R-almost-8), and the isotopes just sort of take care of themselves. Your luck does sound atrociously bad though :( Edited May 15, 2016 by (PS4)Cwellann spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxswatelitexx Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Reitrahc said: Is this for real? I had my full Imperator Vandal in 5 runs, exactly 1 of each piece. Either you drew the short stick or I drew the long one. You drew king. I had 2 blueprints 2 barrels and did about 40 runs before I got full set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get_Singed Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 30 minutes ago, (PS4)Cwellann said: You should probably go buy a lottery ticket. I'd love for the IV to be tradable, it's a great gun, and the one spare I have would probably buy me a few catalysts. Plus, sortie weapon parts and Baro bought Vandal weapons are tradable, so I really don't see a downside. OP - there's at least a small upside - the farming of nano spores can pretty easily result in plenty of neurodes, 2100 Cryotic usually seems to give around 15 R5's (i.e. the amount you referenced is two primed mods maxed, with another brought up to R-almost-8), and the isotopes just sort of take care of themselves. Your luck does sound atrociously bad though :( Just now, xxswatelitexx said: You drew king. I had 2 blueprints 2 barrels and did about 40 runs before I got full set. Wow I really didn't think I got that lucky. I need to go sacrifice a ram and thank RNGesus. Brb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Oussii Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I got it after 127 Runs. (refer to my post Seriously DE) Sometimes you wonder is it really worth it to get this weapon for 3000XP? as for sure the weapon itself is not that famous to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadrad Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I ended up with 14 BPs, 10 barrels, and 2 receivers after way-too-many runs. I wish I could trade them or something because I've been running it for the cores :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Its just rng man because I had a full set in less then 10 runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zNightWolfz Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 i got a Receiver yesterday in 1 run and that finished of a set that now ic an sell for credits as i cant trade it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robj414 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 RNG does suck unfortunately. Thankfully I got all my parts on one of the last events.... after a 16 hour marathon on the last day of the event. Considering how many times they have run this EXACT same event they should make the parts tradeable so that next time they run this event we can have a..... wait for it.... NEW item dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 i got the Vandal 2 Formorians ago and use it for snowflaking. had a receiver in less than 10 runs each time I've done a Formorian since. this current one gave me the Receiver on my 5th run, IIRC. sadly it isn't tradeable, as then the relays would fall, but if it were tradeable, I would make a disgustingly large amount of plat love to help others out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Allslayer Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 What are the drop rates? I haven't got anything but cores... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ToastyFairy01 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Do it for Cores. Haven't you learned the secret to defeating RNGesus? You must not want something to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkOvion Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) That would be another way to make it less of a PITA. Simple tracking method. All things are already listed with their drop chance. Have a list that has every item in the game. Completing something / killing something that drops said thing, adds +1. If it hits the number where you should by the average receive the item, you receive the item. This is a special bonus reward at the end-of-mission (Maybe in a message for ease of game). This would work with regular RNG, as you can already get duplicates, but if you hit absurd levels, you're guaranteed at least one of the thing. Take this receiver at 2% for example. Each completion is +1, at 50 runs, you are guaranteed a Receiver. The Barrel + BP are 11%, so at 9 runs you will get a BP and Barrel. This means there's alwayts a light at the end of the tunnel. It's like the last time the Rift Sigil turned up. 0.5% drop rate or something absurd. We did hundreds of runs, we played right to the last minute near constantly - got nothing. This system would give each player a point where they will definately get each item once. It'd also be far easier to implement than a points store or such. Just a simple back end text doc and script added to Loot tables. Edited May 15, 2016 by DarkOvion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Shodian Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I got 6 barrels and no receivers in this run. I am sad. It's the only weapon I don't have in my collection. ;~; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)H3x3wahn Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 18 hours ago, Reitrahc said: Is this for real? I had my full Imperator Vandal in 5 runs, exactly 1 of each piece. Either you drew the short stick or I drew the long one. Your luck is like getting 5 aces in a poker hand. What did you sacrifice to RNGeezus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torint_man Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Jokes on you, I got the 2% receiver twice before I got the 10% barrel after 50 runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfhsanseiIII Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I feel you brother. My eyes plopped out of my head when I finally got mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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