XP bug? or am i missing some thing

[Insane-Mana]

short and simple

affinity booster

Naramon school with al passives unlocked

 

I do 25 waves akad with 4 people, getting about 2000 melee kills and my weapon levels from 0 to 25 ( imo this is wierd but ok ), then i do again 25 waves same killing spree and gain only 7 lvl's

I always run with all boosters avail in the game, but lately i feel like some times they dont work? are there known bugs ?

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Edited March 19, 2017 by Insane-Mana

[Kialandi]

Do you have lens on any of your gear?

[NinjaZeku]

Just now, Kialandi said:

Do you have lens on any of your gear?

... what difference would that make for ranking up weapons?

8 minutes ago, Insane-Mana said:

i do again 25 waves same killing spree and gain only 7 lvl's

What weapons were those Rank gains for on both runs?

If they were Rank 0 Melee weapons both times that you amassed those kills with,
then yeah, that seems quite buggy indeed.

[Kialandi]

1 minute ago, NinjaZeku said:

... what difference would that make for ranking up weapons?

He didn't say what weapons is he ranking up. He might be using rank 30 weapon to gain shared XP. With lenses on that weapon it would turn all the XP to focus.

[Insane-Mana]

1 minute ago, NinjaZeku said:

What weapons were those Rank gains for on both runs?

was the same secondary in both game. leveled it to 20 the first run, then the second run it gained only 7 levels.

There is a lens on my melee, but i already focus farmed it to cap.

 

[Insane-Mana]

added pics from the 2 game im talking about

[taiiat]

this sounds quite normal.
the XP required to Level Equipment goes up with each Level. standard, run of the mill game tropes for the past few decades.

 

unless you're saying that you started with Lv0 Equipment both times, and got very little XP the second time.
if so, then it'd be great to give more details than 'i Killed some stuff' as to identify how XP is/was being distributed.

 

Edit:
since you've.... decided to only write your entire OP after people start responding (extremely unhelpful)...
what Heavies and Eximus Units were Killed by who can make a large impact on results, as they are the vast majority of the total XP value of Enemies. this is likely involved.
additionally, if Enemies killed by Molecular Prime chains that you didn't start (or you started in a different fashion), then XP will be distributed differently.

Edited March 19, 2017 by taiiat

[Kialandi]

 

You need more XP to level up the weapons higher. To rank it up from 0 to 20 you need 200 000, to rank it up from 20 to 30 you need another 250 000. You need twice as much to rank up warframes and sentinels.

 

Cumulative Affinity Requirements

Level		Weapon	Level		Weapon
1		500	16		128,000
2		2,000	17		144,500
3		4,500	18		162,000
4		8,000	19		180,500
5		12,500	20		200,000
6		18,000	21		220,500
7		24,500	22		242,000
8		32,000	23		264,500
9		40,500	24		288,000
10		50,000	25		312,500
11		60,500	26		338,000
12		72,000	27		364,500
13		84,500	28		392,000
14		98,000	29		420,500
15		112,500	30		450,000

Edited March 19, 2017 by Kialandi

[Insane-Mana]

10 minutes ago, Kialandi said:

 

You need more XP to level up the weapons higher. To rank it up from 0 to 20 you need 200 000, to rank it up from 20 to 30 you need another 250 000. You need twice as much to rank up warframes and sentinels.

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Cumulative Affinity Requirements

Level		Weapon	Level		Weapon
1		500	16		128,000
2		2,000	17		144,500
3		4,500	18		162,000
4		8,000	19		180,500
5		12,500	20		200,000
6		18,000	21		220,500
7		24,500	22		242,000
8		32,000	23		264,500
9		40,500	24		288,000
10		50,000	25		312,500
11		60,500	26		338,000
12		72,000	27		364,500
13		84,500	28		392,000
14		98,000	29		420,500
15		112,500	30		450,000

thx for this

but you are missing some thing if you look at the pics you see i got almost 220k the first game with 1802 kills, the second game ( right after the first ) i get about 160k the second game with 2004 kills

This is wierd

Edited March 19, 2017 by Insane-Mana

[Kialandi]

Just now, Insane-Mana said:

but you are missing some thing if you look at the pics you see i got almost 220k the first game with 1802 kills, the second game ( right after the first ) i get about 160k

This is wierd

Different enemies spawned - less eximus and such. It makes a big difference.

[GnarlsDarkley]

You killed more enemies with Melee weapon the 2nd run. Those extra kills were added to your Telos Boltace not your Akmagnus.

If I go full leechmode I sum up more Affinity then just killing things by myself with Skills/other weapons. Tried this several times with different gear/Senitnel.

E.g. I wont get any Affinity on weapons when I kill everything with Embers WoF

Edited March 19, 2017 by GnarlsDarkley

[Insane-Mana]

3 minutes ago, GnarlsDarkley said:

You killed more enemies with Melee weapon the 2nd run. Those extra kills were added to your Telos Boltace not your Akmagnus.

If I go full leechmode I sum up more Affinity then just killing things by myself with Skills/other weapons. Tried this several times with different gear/Senitnel.

E.g. I wont get any Affinity on weapons when I kill everything with Embers WoF

i dident use the akmagnus, not in game 1 or game 2

[GnarlsDarkley]

Yeah I know. But the other players did more dmg/get more kills. So they net your not used weapon more Affinity.

 

Use a weapon/skill = only the weapon/warframe will get Affinity (warframes will always get Affinity though)

Let someone else kill stuff = all your equipped things will get Affinity (shared Affinity)

 

If you want to get 100% Affinity to a specific item, then only use that one (except warframes).

Sentinels/Kubrow/Kavats may differ sometimes. They may or may not get Affinity if they dont do anything

Edited March 19, 2017 by GnarlsDarkley

[Rawbeard]

49 minutes ago, Insane-Mana said:

I do 25 waves akad

there is your problem, infested are crap xp.

[GnarlsDarkley]

Akkad is the most time-efficient way to level stuff.

 

[aligatorno]

7 minutes ago, Rawbeard said:

there is your problem, infested are crap xp.

Don't know about you, but in 10-15 waves I get a weapon to 30 with a booster, 20-25 without.  Doesn't sound crap to me. 

[Kuestenjung]

37 minutes ago, Insane-Mana said:

thx for this

but you are missing some thing if you look at the pics you see i got almost 220k the first game with 1802 kills, the second game ( right after the first ) i get about 160k the second game with 2004 kills

This is wierd

Not really weird, if you do all the kills with you melee, then the exp goes 50% to your melee and 50% to your warframe. And in the run where you only gained 7 levels your teammates did less kills, thus resulting in less exp for your Magnus.

[Manyc]

32 minutes ago, Insane-Mana said:

i dident use the akmagnus, not in game 1 or game 2

This is the problem.

Affinity goes 50% to the weapon used (TBoltace) and 50% to warframe. So, if you kill everything with your melee, your secondary won't get any affinity.

Shared affinity (objectives or ally kills) goes 25% for warframe, 75% divided between all the weapons you brought. The affinity that leveled your AkMagnus was from what your allies killed, not your kills.

[(PSN)Feox_PH]

30 minutes ago, GnarlsDarkley said:

Akkad is the most time-efficient way to level stuff.

This depends on the squad.  In my experience, I get more XP on Hydron, Sedna (if you have a full squad) and more on Selkie, Sedna (solo) most of the time. Why? Because Grineer enemy XP are higher than Infested enemy XP.  The only reason Akkad is popular is because the Infested are easier to kill and the Grineer shoot back.  Still, to me, Hydron, Sedna is a more time-efficient way to level up gear than Akkad.  Too bad it is not that popular. 

As others have said, if you are doing most of the killing, most of the XP goes to your Warframe and the weapon you used to kill.  Your other weapons/gear only gain XP from shared kills by others in the squad.  And the higher the level you need to rank up to the more XP you need.

[elitetrollz]

Are you grabbing those Focus Orbs everytime it appears on your map?

[Kalvorax]

the problem is see is that you are hogging all the kills ...so of course you wont get as much affinity in your secondary IF YOU ARNT USING IT...you ONLY get xp in your other weapons based on shared xp from other players...as you said, you used melee the whole time....that is why you didnt get any where near the levels you did in the 2nd round.....maybe you should be spinning so much :P

[Rawbeard]

1 hour ago, aligatorno said:

Don't know about you, but in 10-15 waves I get a weapon to 30 with a booster, 20-25 without.  Doesn't sound crap to me. 

on Hydron I get a weapon to 30 in 15 waves, no booster. Grineer have better xp and numbers.

[Kuestenjung]

34 minutes ago, elitetrollz said:

Are you grabbing those Focus Orbs everytime it appears on your map?

Focus has nothing to do with leveling stuff.

[Madway7]

So I have a few theories.

Either 1, less Eximus spawns in the second run since they are run by RNG.

Or

2. People say that you get a full neutral shared affinity from allies, but I believe you get their exact affinity distribution. (You get more warframe exp if they get warframe kills, more weapon exp if they use that weapon type etc etc)

So maybe someone in your squad used their secondary in the first run, but not the second.

3. You went down and noone revived you in the second run.

4. You or a teammate went out of shared affinity range often, which shouldn't matter too much, but it does if 2 is true.

 

Edited March 19, 2017 by Madway7