SolarDwagon Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) But... Um(totallynotPrimeweswear)bra is rather a kick in the nuts to those Founders who bought "exclusives". If the helmet wasn't so blatantly Prime it might be less so but... you painted Excal Prime (that thing you swore you would never rerelease) black and said it was something new. That's not really acting in good faith. I need to make something clear. I'm not anti Umbra. I'm anti Umbra being Excal Prime repainted with a tiny cosmetic change. Edited July 9, 2017 by SolarDwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 It's fine man. You keep Prime and everyone gets something else as we get another Orokin line to play with. I am really, REALLY happy with Umbra, and I'll keep being really, really happy with Excalibur Prime :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityPrime Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Perhaps it isn't what it appears. Such as the quest might involve killing Umbra Excal Prime that sided with the sentients to kill Lotus or similar. And in result we get to craft normal Umbra Excal from the remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcatraz Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 But the question is, will he be the same frame just with improved stats? Or will he feature a new skill set? The look is for sure Excalibur, but his helmet is much different than Prime, and I do not like his arm hooks on the back. Please, let me just run quick and quiet, dodging through obstacles as I... woops! I got my arm snagged on a piece of metal from a box(etc) and spin around to face plant in the wall. In a way, this gets everyone's wet dream of having Excalibur Prime, without actually getting Excalibur Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaokasalis Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) I dont really see a problem here. We still get to keep out exclusives, if that was ever a problem... Everyone now has a chance to look good on their Excalibur, why deny them that? Edited July 9, 2017 by Hieracon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 We've known it was coming for a very long time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningsVengance Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SolarDwagon said: Edited July 9, 2017 by LightningsVengance My presence here was a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 We founders are enough of a special snowflake already. Lets not make issues where there should be none. Excal prime will still be exclusive and his helmet is still strikingly different from Umbra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FollowTheFaceless Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, SolarDwagon said: But... Um(totallynotPrimeweswear)bra is rather a kick in the nuts to those Founders who bought "exclusives". If the helmet wasn't so blatantly Prime it might be less so but... you painted Excal Prime (that thing you swore you would never rerelease) black and said it was something new. That's not really acting in good faith. Lato and Skana Prime ALSO, and you have additional 12k exp ahead for mastery rank, and some "weight of word" in developing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnacpeek Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) The items still remain exclusive to you and fellow Founders. You paid for exactly what you were promised, 4 years later, nothing is different other than non Founders also having the opportunity to receive an upgraded Excalibur (even though there will still be people nagging DE to rerelease Founder gear). Sorry to say, but you can either take it or leave it (unless you're only expressing concern with no intent to change the current situation). Edited July 9, 2017 by LazerSkink typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarDwagon Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, Letter13 said: We've known it was coming for a very long time now. And we hoped it was a mistake that would stay confined to China where they wanted their own pseudo-Founder exclusive. Which is somewhat fair since they had no equivalent. But we already had the equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Zashukitsune Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 It's also just a rehash of the Excalibur Umbra Prime that was supposed to be China Exclusive. I'm personally on the boat that wonders why so much time and money was wasted on what, as far as we know, is pretty much just another Excalibur skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, SolarDwagon said: And we hoped it was a mistake that would stay confined to China where they wanted their own pseudo-Founder exclusive. Which is somewhat fair since they had no equivalent. But we already had the equivalent. Who is this "we"? Not me, certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnacpeek Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 3 hours ago, SolarDwagon said: And we hoped it was a mistake that would stay confined to China where they wanted their own pseudo-Founder exclusive Define "we". 3 hours ago, SolarDwagon said: Which is somewhat fair since they had no equivalent. But we already had the equivalent. PC non Founders and Console players watch as another exclusive Excalibur is given to the Chinese audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarDwagon Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, FollowTheFaceless said: Lato and Skana Prime ALSO, and you have additional 12k exp ahead for mastery rank, and some "weight of word" in developing. Lato is only Grandmaster for a start, and Skana Prime is barely noticable. 8 minutes ago, LazerSkink said: The items still remain exclusive to you and fellow Founders. You paid for exactly what you were promised, 4 years later, nothing is different other than non Founders also having the oppoetunity to receive an upgraded Excalibur (even though there will still be people nagging DE to rerelease Founder gear). Sorry to say, but you can either take it or leave it (unless you're only expressing concern with no intent to change the current situation). I'm expressing an opinion that I think DE hasn't acted in as good faith as they could. I'm not sure how bad it's going to be when it comes out, because as noted by others, things can change. But right now the helmet looks very similar in style to Excalibur Prime's main helmet, and the bodywork is quite similar outside the prime hooks. Basically,I object to it being a repaint of Excal Prime rather than a rework of Excalibur. I'm not going to make grandstanding threats about taking my money elsewhere, both because they're premature and lets face it, Warframe is one of the best games out there. But it is one more thing to add to the list of let-down moments in how DE has treated parts of their community at various times. Edited July 9, 2017 by SolarDwagon Spelling mistakes bug me >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toquette Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 what if DE make Excal Prime can use Excal Umbra (Prime) skin as for the compesation you still get to get umbra through quest, but what i mean is Excal Prime in Umbra skins you got it? pardon my bad english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiusa Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, SolarDwagon said: Lato is only Grandmaster for a start, and Skana Prime is barely noticable. I'm expressing an opinion that I think DE hasn't acted in as good faith as they could. I'm not sure how bad it's going to be when it comes out, because as noted by others, things can change. But right now the helmet looks very similar in style to Excalibur Prime's main helmet, and the bodywork is quite similar outside the prime hooks. I'm not going to make grandstanding threats about taking my money elsewhere, both because they're premature and lets face it, Warframe is one of the best games out there. But it is one more thing to add to the list of let-down moments in how DE has treated parts of their community at various times. The visuals have been known for a long time. It's Excalibur Umbra Prime, so it's going to look appropriate to the name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheePrime Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 something something Chinese something something cheap knockoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnacpeek Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 3 hours ago, SolarDwagon said: I'm not sure how bad it's going to be when it coems out, because as noted by others, things can change And hopefully they won't. 2 years ago we learned of its existence, and when a trailer was finally delivered, they suddenly decide to change the looks prior to its release? I'd rather not. 3 hours ago, Xiusa said: The visuals have been known for a long time. It's Excalibur Umbra Prime, so it's going to look appropriate to the name Well, ours will be named Excalibur Umbra, but yes, it has no difference other than name to its Chinese counterpart (unless stats differ, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toquette Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Xiusa said: The visuals have been known for a long time. It's Excalibur Umbra Prime, so it's going to look appropriate to the name but the string files title him as "Excalibur Umbra" only hell even the "leak problem" show him as "Excalibur Umbra" only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogManDan Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, SolarDwagon said: But... Um(totallynotPrimeweswear)bra is rather a kick in the nuts to those Founders who bought "exclusives". If the helmet wasn't so blatantly Prime it might be less so but... you painted Excal Prime (that thing you swore you would never rerelease) black and said it was something new. That's not really acting in good faith. You Have got to be kidding me right? This entitlement you have is extremely strong. I as a founder see absolutely no problem with what they revealed. You need to get over yourself at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z3GR4M Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 All I want is the scarf to be an auxiliary item I can equip on excal p. Thats it... make it happen DE pretty please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiusa Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, Levirei said: but the string files title him as "Excalibur Umbra" only hell even the "leak problem" show him as "Excalibur Umbra" only Those same files label Oberon as "Paladin" and Mesa as "Cowgirl" yet those are not their names in-game. Things change and/or are not accurate in the final product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, Z3GR4M said: All I want is the scarf to be an auxiliary item I can equip on excal p. Thats it... make it happen DE pretty please! Don't hold your breath. It's pretty much a hardcoded item for Excalibur Umbra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z3GR4M Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, NightmareT12 said: Don't hold your breath. It's pretty much a hardcoded item for Excalibur Umbra. I think it would be fair, you guys get an excal p lite, founders get the best part of umbra, the scarf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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