(XBOX)DreamyRelic80 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Honestly I see your point the right half looks like a dress skirt or mini dress looks skin tight because he seems oddly muscular… like a drag queen. The contrast of muscles in a dress that you don't see often. Some people are overly sensitive with your discription. Maybe cross dresser would be the right term? The left makes look like he may not have a left leg. He does come off very feminine, almost a Greco- geisha… maybe that's what the artist was going for. It might look a lot better in game though. The hole left side is just defying gravity, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyx219 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Also, I think you're (the OP) jumping the gun quite a bit. The amount of gathered fabric on the ground suggests that he may have a wrapped garment (toga, sarong, etc) coming undone. Might be a visual metaphor for his entire existence thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KisaPrime Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, (Xbox One)DreamyRelic80 said: Honestly I see your point the right half looks like a dress skirt or mini dress looks skin tight because he seems oddly muscular… like a drag queen. The contrast of muscles in a dress that you don't see often. Some people are overly sensitive with your discription. Maybe cross dresser would be the right term? The left makes look like he may not have a left leg. He does come off very feminine, almost a Greco- geisha… maybe that's what the artist was going for. It might look a lot better in game though. The hole left side is just defying gravity, lol That's why I changed drag queen to skimpy dress since it looks like it shrank in a washing machine. Just the drawing kills the whole image of Ballas, though it seems I'm just the weird one to think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeMask Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) It looks like what the Egyptians wear wit ha bit of Japanese aesthetics . If you noticed, most Orokin designs are similar to ancient Egypt with a bit of Japanese culture influence. Orokins seem to be a combination of most cultures and religions on earth such as the side blade which reminds me of the Sikhs Kirpan. Egyptian sandals shendyt gold accents Japanese Shoulder garb topknot stick through bun thingy Roman / Greek physic , posture god mythology Edited July 16, 2017 by HandsomeMask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get_Of_Fenris Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Ballas is too sexy for his toga. So sexy it hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 He looks undead. Thr Excecutors had smooth skin, golden eyes and perfect symmetry that creeps you out since it is impossible for humans to be 100% symmetrical. In the Synthesis tale of the Grineer rebellion, there is a description of white flowing robes. In the Crewmen story the 7 are old but all very human in nature. So this is something else. And as creepy as this is, like a zombie or vampire, it is not how I picture the Orokin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Tanta Cinta Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 It's one his many vessels that he sports for continuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Graysmog Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 6 hours ago, KisaPrime said: Ballas doesn't have healing powers and they say which specific orokin they're from. That just means that's how Ancient Healers themselves were created. Doesn't mean Ancients in general have to be made of the same type of Orokin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachibana_Hibiki Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) The only problem I have with this concept is that it throws out the window the point about Orokin obsession with symmetry. Majority of other objections look more like "it doesn't fit my headcanon/aesthetic preferences". It makes sense that Orokin beauty standards can be very different from our current ones. Given how rapidly fashion changes, things that looked "royal knightly and masculine" in 2-3 hundred years end up looking "weird and gay", and what looked like "lowly dirty peasant" ends up as "cool guy and dudebro" in the eyes of mass audience unacquainted with the historical perspective of the dress observed. And while generally it makes sense for artists of all times to adapt, for example, ancient character to their own contemporary beauty standards - to both make image more appealing and more understandable for potential viewer, in this case it was specifically pointed out that artist intentionally went against that approach. Should I have censored the word "gay"? I have nothing against homosexual people, so I didn't, am I wrong? Edited July 16, 2017 by Tachibana_Hibiki Tried to make it a bit more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar.K.Asmus Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Ok the only description of Orokin we have in game (the only one i found): Beauty Symmetry Golden eyes And for some reason all people here think that when someone speaks about symmetry that they speak about body symmetry. How about facial symmetry? One of the measurements for beauty. If you never heard about facial symmetry before here a Wikipedia article for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_symmetry (I hate using Wikipedia as a source but i am too lazy to find something else) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKDK Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Looks amazing! I like how they included various features and designs of nobility or deities from different cultures. It certainly is unique. To be honest I was expecting Ballas and orokins to look something like the council of krypton from man of steel: But I can definitely live with this design! Way more unique! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rand0mname Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Well, it is certainly very eye-catching. We still do not know if it is THE perfect Orokin look. First time I seen that concept, I was thinking that Ballas just woke up from a long nap and found out that time have not been kind to him. He looks horrified. As for the blue skin and androgynous look... Can be explained as different standards of beauty. Black teeth was sexy in Japan not that long ago, if I am not mistaken. Let's not forget about foot binding in China. And some people do strange and not healthy things to their bodies now. All in the name of perfection. Only disproportions do not seem “Orokin” to me. Now the skirt... I do not get the dislike for it. Not manly or looks too flippant for authority figure or is it giving the beach suit in the office vibe? 6 hours ago, Unus said: Well, what if the high caste's immortality augmentations inevitably resulted in disfigurements that, if they were mentioned in any way anywhere, would have that person killed on the spot by a network monitoring Cephalon? Couple that with a mastery of holographic interfaces and the vast majorities' groveling reverence towards them and BOOM, The Great Lie, forever etched into history, even long after the perpetrators are long dead. Ohhhhh, I like the idea. That toga can hide the hand pretty well. 1 hour ago, Sarcasm4Free said: Ok the only description of Orokin we have in game (the only one i found): Beauty Symmetry Golden eyes And for some reason all people here think that when someone speaks about symmetry that they speak about body symmetry. How about facial symmetry? One of the measurements for beauty. Well, it is hard not to notice how asymmetrical the body on a concept art is. And body symmetry is one of the measurements of beauty too. I do not think that Orokin would go for a pretty face only if they could have a hole package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKDK Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, rand0mname said: Well, it is certainly very eye-catching. We still do not know if it is THE perfect Orokin look. First time I seen that concept, I was thinking that Ballas just woke up from a long nap and found out that time have not been kind to him. He looks horrified. As for the blue skin and androgynous look... Can be explained as different standards of beauty. Black teeth was sexy in Japan not that long ago, if I am not mistaken. Let's not forget about foot binding in China. And some people do strange and not healthy things to their bodies now. All in the name of perfection. Only disproportions do not seem “Orokin” to me. Now the skirt... I do not get the dislike for it. Not manly or looks too flippant for authority figure or is it giving the beach suit in the office vibe? Ohhhhh, I like the idea. That toga can hide the hand pretty well. Well, it is hard not to notice how asymmetrical the body on a concept art is. And body symmetry is one of the measurements of beauty too. I do not think that Orokin would go for a pretty face only if they could have a hole package. Correct as described by Keith regarding this concept art during the art panel the black teeth were of Japanese Heian influence and the blue skin is to resemble the Hindhu deities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Temp0- Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Ballas here look like he's about to start the next Hunger games. That's the impression I get every time I look at this picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xgomme Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, KisaPrime said: Those are still not skin tight or look weird. So you picture ballas in a mini skin tight dress every time he talks? I would dislike it even if they had margulis in some skin tight mini dress. Do you even think about one simple thing, the scale ? Maybe he had that classic toga, but since he looks totally distorded, maybe most of his body got bigger, ence the smaller looking toga. Following your logic Hulk is a Village People because he wears tight shorts Imo he tried to reach perfection, but just fcked up his body, and outfit Ok the only description of Orokin we have in game (the only one i found): Beauty Symmetry Golden eyes (He was like that BEFORE, his eyes are corrupted and full white, it's simple to tell that the guy is not "natural" ) Edited July 16, 2017 by Xgomme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texrei Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 They switch bodies for a reason. Maybe he is old here and his body suffered from ageing or diseases. Maybe he has a reason (ethical?) to not perform this procedure which keeps Orokin alive and beautiful forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KisaPrime Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Xgomme said: Do you even think about one simple thing, the scale ? Maybe he had that classic toga, but since he looks totally distorded, maybe most of his body got bigger, ence the smaller looking toga. Following your logic Hulk is a Village People because he wears tight shorts Imo he tried to reach perfection, but just fcked up his body, and outfit Ok the only description of Orokin we have in game (the only one i found): Beauty Symmetry Golden eyes (He was like that BEFORE, his eyes are corrupted and full white, it's simple to tell that the guy is not "natural" ) What if there isn't a before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KisaPrime Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 2 hours ago, GKDK said: Looks amazing! I like how they included various features and designs of nobility or deities from different cultures. It certainly is unique. To be honest I was expecting Ballas and orokins to look something like the council of krypton from man of steel: But I can definitely live with this design! Way more unique! I honestly figured Ballas would be more close to looking like this fan art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misgenesis Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) Its just about what i wanted the Orokin to be. What might be imperfect for you, might not be for them. Edited July 16, 2017 by Misgenesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeoxz Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, (Xbox One)FCastle74 said: So this is about a stretch out arm? How do we know what time period the concept art is representative of? I think OP is full of conjectures, head cannon and hyperbole. We really don't know anything. Other than that tiny exertion that is vague at best. All symmetry is, is a law or operation in which physical property or process has an equivalence in two or more directions. Symmetry does not necessarily coincide or reflect aesthetics values. Furthermore I think Ballas looks great and I can't wait to learn more about him or it?! Symmetry is symmetry, it's a clear concept and he does not have it on any direction in that concept art. However, I still stand by my argument that I love the design. And I really like the idea of Orokin being able to stretch their arms on command, props to you that's brilliant. Edited July 16, 2017 by Jeoxz PS: The other concepts are too human-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Jeoxz said: does not have it on any direction in that concept art. His face does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grimsley Clause Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Not at all what I thought he'd look like, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurienno Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 I am not opposed to how he looks but I had not expected the man behind the voice to look like that. If that's what the Orokin considered perfection and beauty I can only imagine how the rest of them might have looked as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirfol Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 i like it alot, it's not cliche and instill some questions with it's appearance, let's say it's not boring. He is lore himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 I'm indifferent about it. I do expect to find out why he and/or Orokin in general look like that. If DE explains that I'm completely fine with this unconventional design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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