(XBOX)Aeries Vendetta Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 This isn't going to be pleasant feed back. Can't say how disappointed I am. This game is primarily pve but one cool and unique mode was the dark sector conflicts as we knew them Solar rails. It made clans and alliances the thing to have. Encouraged people to play and band together. True, it had its bugs and needed a damage adjustment but the potential for full scale clan vs clan and alliance vs alliance true PvP battles was something ive never seen before and with what i saw from the dev stream, never will again until another game decides to capitalize on the missed opportunity by Warframe. Im greatly disappointed. I started playing April 2013 and got burned out from the constant pve and grinding and never ending slaughtering of easy to kill enemies with super powered warframes. Then dark sectors came and conclave was introduced keeping me playing the game and waiting for nearly 3 years for solar rails to come back so that we can experience the thrill of fighting your frame off and winning against an entire clan. Again, this is horribly disappointing because I was hoping for some love in the pvp department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawGritz Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) I'm miserable. Seriously. After waiting 2 years just to see more horde mode. Dark Sector conflicts were amazing. Sure they were broken because the weapon's and powers lacked balance for PVP. But they have cleaned up Conclave. Why not re-introduce the DS conflicts? I loved the format, objective-based and the NPC units assisting and the way mods would come online in the order they were slotted. It was glorious. This is a very poor substitute. Endless exterminate?! Come on, DE! Edited February 9, 2018 by RawGritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genitive Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I don't mind it being pve, but it's just more of the same with a leaderboard. It's just underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Aeries Vendetta Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 Its the same old grind. You want to do some practice for this mode? Go to a survival mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurokoz Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Just gonna jump in cause I know this going to go poorly.. For one, it's not even close to done yet. Secondly, I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, (Xbox One)Aeries Vendetta said: I started playing April 2013 and got burned out from the constant pve and grinding and never ending slaughtering of easy to kill enemies with super powered warframes. This is what most people came to the game for. This is obviously what most of their dev resources go to. There is no shortage of whining any time PvP is tied to any kind of event or exclusive rewards. This may just not be the game for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Aeries Vendetta Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 If you are all about another version of survival then by all means. What i saw was another mode where we just mindlessly kill everything as enemies get harder and harder then when we are done we extract before we run out of time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---UMBRA--- Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Completely agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Aeries Vendetta Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 1 minute ago, peterc3 said: This is what most people came to the game for. This is obviously what most of their dev resources go to. There is no shortage of whining any time PvP is tied to any kind of event or exclusive rewards. This may just not be the game for you. This is conclave feed back for a mode that was pvp based that we now have it confirmed was taken from us. Then you come in and tell me a guy who has been playing literally since the same month as you "this may not be the game for you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad4youLT Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Im old timer here I must say what I seen so far doesnt interest me , I also would like to say I never like dark sectors and idea of "clan wars" is just horible if youl attach exclusive rewards because it will be monopolized by large clans and alliances I o hope something interesting will come out as I understand what we seen was nothing more but a tech demo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Aeries Vendetta Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 I sure hope it was just a tech demo. Otherwise i think it will go about as well as lunaro. People were excited for like a month then it died out. Next to nobody plays lunaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Bubba5234 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Can’t say I’m the least bit surprised by the news, unfortunately. I think the VAST majority of vets that were waiting on Rails to come back have moved on. Some would have come back for them, had they been competitive with and as both Clans and Alliances. Us Rail vets just get no love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Aeries Vendetta Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, (Xbox One)Bubba5234 said: Can’t say I’m the least bit surprised by the news, unfortunately. I think the VAST majority of vets that were waiting on Rails to come back have moved on. Some would have come back for them, had they been competitive with and as both Clans and Alliances. Us Rail vets just get no love. You said it man. Lorewalker i highly doubt will return as well as all the rail players we knowjust off the top of our head. Tons of players and clans. Edited February 10, 2018 by (XB1)Aeries Vendetta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 This new system i seen on the dev stream dont even scratch the level of detail and potential dark sector conflicts had, its sad to say but we will never have dark sectors back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjasPlay4Fun Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I feel exactly the same as you, I just did not post on the same subject because I feel like it did not make any difference ... But yes, I also expected something similar and improved to the old dark sector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---RV---Maniac Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 09/02/2018 at 8:22 PM, RawGritz said: Sure they were broken because the weapon's and powers lacked balance for PVP. But they have cleaned up Conclave. Why not re-introduce the DS conflicts? Im all up for dark sectors being up again but the current conclave is so unpopular and wouldn't really get people interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 19 hours ago, ---RV---Maniac said: Im all up for dark sectors being up again but the current conclave is so unpopular and wouldn't really get people interested Well thats where youre wrong, one of the reasons raids were removed was lack of player's. Half of that 1.something percent played raids only for the rewards unlike in conclave our community played because they enjoy the pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---RV---Maniac Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, (PS4)Xx-Ribbium-xX said: Well thats where youre wrong, one of the reasons raids were removed was lack of player's. Half of that 1.something percent played raids only for the rewards unlike in conclave our community played because they enjoy the pvp 15K people dedicated discord server only for raids, Im in contact with alot of the most popular clans in warframe and while raids where supported/enjoyed by most of them, conclave isnt, like most don't really view it in a positive light at all. Besides you really saying people don't play conclave for rewards? Conclave has more rewards than raids and it forces you to grind to get them. In terms of activity, it's on the same level as raids, that shows the players enjoyement on that game mode. Specially considering conclave forces you to play through it to get certain rewards (can't trade some stuff, unlike arcanes). I don't really see how you can turn around and say that raids are less enjoyable than pvp. I see alot more people enjoying raids than pvp conclave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, ---RV---Maniac said: 15K people dedicated discord server only for raids, Im in contact with alot of the most popular clans in warframe and while raids where supported/enjoyed by most of them, conclave isnt, like most don't really view it in a positive light at all. Besides you really saying people don't play conclave for rewards? Conclave has more rewards than raids and it forces you to grind to get them. In terms of activity, it's on the same level as raids, that shows the players enjoyement on that game mode. Specially considering conclave forces you to play through it to get certain rewards (can't trade some stuff, unlike arcanes). I don't really see how you can turn around and say that raids are less enjoyable than pvp. I see alot more people enjoying raids than pvp conclave. If you play conclave for the rewards you stop playing after you have got them and trust me it isn't hard getting conclave standing or the rewards if you cheese it Both conclave and raids have about 1. Something constant players out of the entire warframe player base i dont think raids would survive or even be played by anyone if they kept them up and mobed arcanes to the plains unlike in conclave if you were to move the rewards to the market the player base would remain the same Also i doubt 15k players even play raids anymore, maybe when they first came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Aeries Vendetta Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Conclave has had a steady draw. Thats with the neglect by DE. If they decided to out more effort into PVP they would find not only would their current fanbase move to pvp more and spend more (business mindset) but a lot of other people would flock to it. Look at the pvp only games out there. Smite for example still has a huge draw and its a crappy game in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---RV---Maniac Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, (Xbox One)Aeries Vendetta said: Smite for example still has a huge draw and its a crappy game in my opinion. Smite is a moba, intended for pvp. Warframe is PVE game, with no servers and a pvp gameplay thats just eh... But I would like to have PVP that is actually decent though not opposed to that. Something close to the old dark sectors would help greatly the clans, alliances and overall community. Also raids have goten more neglect that pvp, like alot more. 7 minutes ago, (PS4)Xx-Ribbium-xX said: Both conclave and raids have about 1. Something constant players out of the entire warframe player base i dont think raids would survive or even be played by anyone if they kept them up and mobed arcanes to the plains unlike in conclave if you were to move the rewards to the market the player base would remain the same Also i doubt 15k players even play raids anymore, maybe when they first came out Taken just now, on reset time there's alot more and overall there's about hundreds on this 1 discord server alone doing raids daily, take account the recruitment raids, the dozens of clans that do multiple raids daily and all the premade groupd of friends runing them. And theres just more people involved in raids as far as I see it. Specially considering the effort, coordination and key cost they take compared to pvp where you can just go in to a match. Still both modes deserve attention, the new dark sector rework doesn't look good enough as it is, and an improved pvp aspect would help this game greatly on the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Aeries Vendetta Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, ---RV---Maniac said: Smite is a moba, intended for pvp. Warframe is PVE game, with no servers and a pvp gameplay thats just eh... But I would like to have PVP that is actually decent though not opposed to that. Something close to the old dark sectors would help greatly the clans, alliances and overall community. Also raids have goten more neglect Still both modes deserve attention, the new dark sector rework doesn't look good enough as it is, and an improved pvp aspect would help this game greatly on the long run. It warframe was a pve only game it wouldnt have pvp. It has PvP. I dont know why people keep trying to use that lame arguement. We have gotten 2 new maps and as weapons are added to the game they are added to warframe. The Dark Sector conflicts were the pvp version of the raid/sorties. It was a massive "hard mode" for pvp players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sdaly96 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I wonder what some of the more....Shall we say...Fanatical dark sector guys think. And yes i use the term fanatical, ps4 guys would understand lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sdaly96 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Actually, since the dark sectors are being irrevocably changed, maybe DE could lift the armistice to allow us one more go around with the sectors as they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heckzu Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/11/2018 at 12:06 PM, ---RV---Maniac said: Besides you really saying people don't play conclave for rewards? Conclave has more rewards than raids and it forces you to grind to get them. Raids has (or had) players who didn't care for the arcanes and just speed-ran to try to break the record. Conclave has players who already own all of the rewards and just play for fun. Both groups have players who play for rewards, and both groups have players who play for other reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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