FollowTheFaceless Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, (XB1)archlion227 said: If it's 2-3 choose let variants for each ability that would make the warframe have 2 or 3 abilities assuming the warframe or warframes have the same possible abilities to choose from Let say 3. 3x4=12 12 abilities to choose from. Not 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FollowTheFaceless Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, (XB1)archlion227 said: Even if hey are different that would still be over 500 possible combinations Read the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)archlion227 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Then there would only have to be 2 custom warframes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)archlion227 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 No 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skippy575 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, FollowTheFaceless said: lol nope, you completely not reading me. Im talking about 2-3 choosable variants for each ability. AND THEY NOT TAKEN FROM EXISTING FRAMES. Assuming I did the math right and using the max number of 3 variants: we get 12 different abilities, of which we get to use 4 at a time. That's 495 different combinations just for powers. That's not even factoring in different combos for health, shields, armor, etc. which I assume from your original OP would be tied to the appearance (I'd say chassis, systems, and helmet would be the easiest way to do that, to keep in line with how we build frames currently). That's a lot of work just to make zawframes. Edited October 9, 2018 by (XB1)Skippy575 Formatting and grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)archlion227 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Plus 2-3 abilities to choose from for EACH ability on said warframe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)watt4hem Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 *sighing intensifies* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FollowTheFaceless Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 I think only devs can tell for sure if is it possible or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtsiaZ Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, FollowTheFaceless said: Because no one even tries to think about it positively and dug up it's dirt side right from the start and starts throwing it. As I said, this is not a new topic. Modular frames have been discussed many times in these forums and they all run into the same issues, too much extra work to be worth the investment. Your proposal is not unique and is no different form every other time it's been brought by someone. In the time it would take to make a function modular system for frames that's balanced and mostly exploitable (which is almost never gonna happen) they honestly could have pushed at least 2-3 new unique frames for a much better return on investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)archlion227 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Plus ash needs exalted weapon example a dagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsardova Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, FollowTheFaceless said: Oh. You're think you reacting positive!? I'm so sorry... I never claim that I am? Neither have my replies been inherently negative if you're not being overly sensitive. Most of my replies have been simply stating the inherent flaws and risks that your idea poses. Again, realistic expectations. Yet you misconstrue the context as pessimism/ negativity.... and you wanna be snarky about this and have an attitude? Grow up dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)archlion227 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Or first ability to moldable kunai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykerios Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, (XB1)archlion227 said: Plus ash needs exalted weapon example a dagger Don't hijack a thread. This isn't the place for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FollowTheFaceless Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Atsia said: As I said, this is not a new topic. Modular frames have been discussed many times in these forums and they all run into the same issues, too much extra work to be worth the investment. Your proposal is not unique and is no different form every other time it's been brought by someone. In the time it would take to make a function modular system for frames that's balanced and mostly exploitable (which is almost never gonna happen) they honestly could have pushed at least 2-3 new unique frames for a much better return on investment. It's not a proposal, not demand. Just a guess based on lore. If it needed to be nose-pointed at such obvious thing then that's why this whole thread has taken the wrong route... Edited October 9, 2018 by FollowTheFaceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsardova Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, FollowTheFaceless said: It's not a proposal, not demand. Just a guess based on lore. If it needed to be nose-pointed at such obvious thing then that's why this whole thread has taken the wrong route... 1. Cause of the way you worded it. 2. Cause of your attitude from people simply noting the inherent risks/ flaws from your idea when nobody really "attacked" you in the first place. 3. Cause you seem to get overly sensitive/ sentimental over a civil argument.... 4. Get a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rand0mname Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 3 минуты назад, FollowTheFaceless сказал: If it needed to be nose-pointed at such obvious thing then that's why this whole thread has taken the wrong route... 7/10. Good one OP, you got me honestly thinking about the pros and cons of modular frames for a 7 minutes, but it is not why you started this thread, is it? Edited October 9, 2018 by rand0mname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtsiaZ Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, FollowTheFaceless said: It's not a proposal, not demand. Just guess based on lore. If it needed to be nose-pointed at such obvious thing then that's why this whole thread has taken the wrong route... Even then the majority answer would still be no for the same reasons that have been given by the others. Too much work for not enough return and a balancing nightmare for DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolDudeMcCool Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I think the biggest issue is appearance. The best frames have distinct looks and good themes, these things would probably just be bland and eh. Look at Revenant, he still gets tons of complaints about the vampire/sentient thing not meshing. I don't want to imagine how many people would complain about custom frames not having a theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastaban75 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, CoolDudeMcCool said: I think the biggest issue is appearance. The best frames have distinct looks and good themes, these things would probably just be bland and eh. Look at Revenant, he still gets tons of complaints about the vampire/sentient thing not meshing. I don't want to imagine how many people would complain about custom frames not having a theme. Putting balancing/testing issues aside, that's one of the biggest problems with such a proposal. I think having a frame crafted like an amp and calling it "323" instead of, well, a name is problematic. DE always advertised new frames based on the themes they conveyed. Another problem, a prime frame would not be possible with the same process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FollowTheFaceless Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, rastaban75 said: Putting balancing/testing issues aside, that's one of the biggest problems with such a proposal. I think having a frame crafted like an amp and calling it "323" instead of, well, a name is problematic. DE always advertised new frames based on the themes they conveyed. Another problem, a prime frame would not be possible with the same process. Frame created by Tenno who not a thematic specialist. It's a pretty handicraft work and may be as simple as Mag on it's look. And of course no prime, because it's created in present time, not by Orokin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_of_76 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 the problem is for abilities alone you have 81 options if it is 3 choices per ability or 11880 if it is 4 from a pool of 4. then you have health. for that you have 3 standard options. tank, mid, caster then for each type you would want 2 versions making 6 choices since the original post states 4 sets of 3 then that is 6 frame shield/hp/armor/energy options times 81 ability choices make 486 unique frames that is now 486 things that need to have to be stored in a database and indexed for easy retrieval when you log on. it just is not worth the Dev time or the storage space to do this. the pets and weapons are easier they are just numbers maby 1-4 different abilities and don't need a unique code for each same goes for kit guns, for the most part, there are 4-5 fire types then after that it is just stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5H4DE Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 As much as I like the idea I feel like it would make our other warframes less relevant. We all know that Zawframes will gain the same treatment Zaws do from the community, everyone will craft the most efficient one for each role and that is all you'll ever see from that point onward. The reason is because DE make warframes with more or less equal strengths and weaknesses, on the other hand, if we get to craft them we will amplify the strengths as much as we can while keeping weaknesses to a bare minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 this is resembling the hypothesis i drew up years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)bigob_84 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I have said something similar to this in the past, don’t count on it, when I did I got hated on. I do think it could be awesome, having Oberons healing 3, with Nyx mind control 1, Valkers 4, and Excalibur’s raidial blind 2, and top it off with with passives, It would give Warframe Vets something to do while waiting for me content to drop and complete in a week or two. Granted I am still working on Revenant. But I have seen plenty of them running around already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada_Wong_SG Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) I will try to put in my custom combination... 1) Methamophosis (Equinox) 2) Energy Vampire [Trinity] (Night)/ Hall of Mirror [Mirage] (Day) 3) Iron Skin [Rhino] (Night) / Miasma [Saryn] (Day) 4) Exalted Blade [Excalibur] (Night)/ Peacemaker [Mesa] (Day) The combo - EV with Iron skin with Exalted blade night aspect Hall of Mirror with Miasma with Peacemaker. The clones from Hall of Mirror will be able to perform Exalted Blade/ Peacemaker to amplify/ increase damage with duration build. Edited October 10, 2018 by Ada_Wong_SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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