Hyohakusha Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, 844448 said: Wow, 8th lich? Now I'm not sure if it's dedicated, hardcore or no-life I'm sick right now so I don't have much else to do lol. 11 minutes ago, Tinklzs said: For those who're past their 2nd lich - any form of guide or tips? The simplest thing, and this is going to sound counter-intuitive, is to take your time doing the missions. Clear out all the enemies, search everywhere, you tend to get more murmurs doing that. On top of being thorough, when your lich shows up in mission, don't immediately knock and stab them. They convert nearby grineer into thralls, so lure as many grineer to them/ lure them into a clump of grineer. The bigger and crazier the fight, the more conversions, the faster you get murmurs, the faster you can kill your lich. It turn into a game of whack a mole with dudes trying to kill you with shotguns while you pick off the thralls out of the crowd. It's crazy and alot of fun. Edit: Also, solo exterm, capture, mobile defense, try to find a group that understands the conversion mechanic for defense, interception and disruption. Survival works either way. And @Zebiko Gauss, Loki and Octavia. Only seems to affect the element like people found out. Pretty sure weapons pure rng. Edited November 5, 2019 by Hyohakusha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady88 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, 844448 said: Wow, 8th lich? Now I'm not sure if it's dedicated, hardcore or no-life Doesn't take too long once you know what you're doing. 2-3 hours per litch if dedicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHappyTyranid Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hyohakusha said: I'm sick right now so I don't have much else to do lol. The simplest thing, and this is going to sound counter-intuitive, is to take your time doing the missions. Clear out all the enemies, search everywhere, you tend to get more murmurs doing that. On top of being thorough, when your lich shows up in mission, don't immediately knock and stab them. They convert nearby grineer into thralls, so lure as many grineer to them/ lure them into a clump of grineer. The bigger and crazier the fight, the more conversions, the faster you get murmurs, the faster you can kill your lich. It turn into a game of whack a mole with dudes trying to kill you with shotguns while you pick off the thralls out of the crowd. It's crazy and alot of fun. Edit: Also, solo exterm, capture, mobile defense, try to find a group that understands the conversion mechanic for defense, interception and disruption. Survival works either way. And @Zebiko Gauss, Loki and Octavia. Only seems to affect the element like people found out. Pretty sure weapons pure rng. Hope you get better OP. And I agree with the little thing about taking your time. The thrall count without your lich is locked at somewhere around 15 or 25, can't tell yet, but the lich bypasses that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyohakusha Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 @TheHappyTyranid Thanks, and yeah, there are separate caps for spawned and converted thralls. I think it's around 15 for converted. It's almost like DE did that on purpose to incentivize teamwork and communication, as well as reward actually playing and enjoying the mission instead of just bum-rushing through it like most people do. Gee I wonder lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowgrav Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 wow 8th lich i still havent found my first liches weekness yet and also have only 1 mod from really bad RNG on radiant relics so for me wow lich drops weapons .... skip ima level other stuff more fun like archwing or K drives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoero Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 im on my 9th and im the proud owner of 3 ogris. DE, at least give me a BP for akimbo kuva ogris ffs.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHappyTyranid Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zoero said: im on my 9th and im the proud owner of 3 ogris. DE, at least give me a BP for akimbo kuva ogris ffs.... Wouldn't mind some double pocket launchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasario89 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Im on my 6 lich and all that I got its the ********* OGRIS ! And im done with this lich system,thats enough =] Edited November 5, 2019 by Nasario89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V3REiGN Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) I am on my 10th lich... Current one is a Kohm 1 Ogris 2 Quartakk 1 Drakgoon 4 Chakkhurr 1 Shieldeg The 4 Chakkhurr reallly annoyed me though (would love a Quartakk made out of Chakkhurr 😛 ). I go to as many different tile-sets as possible to keep it fresh. Edited November 5, 2019 by S0V3REiGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buff00n Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 According to my math, it will take players an average of 41 liches to collect all 13 weapons: Run the simulation yourself 90% of players will get all 13 weapons after 61 liches, and 99% of players will have them all after 90 liches. Put another way, the unluckiest 1% of players, which is still a large number of players, will take more than 90 liches to obtain all 13 Kuva weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowgrav Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buff00n said: According to my math, it will take players an average of 41 liches to collect all 13 weapons: Run the simulation yourself 90% of players will get all 13 weapons after 61 liches, and 99% of players will have them all after 90 liches. Put another way, the unluckiest 1% of players, which is still a large number of players, will take more than 90 liches to obtain all 13 Kuva weapons. wow im all hyped for the rest of the grind..... and i was wandering what people would do after they finnished the mutagen sample farm that is rare to see people in recruting chat still doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouinpis Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 and kuva weapon,do they grant MR xp in your profil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V3REiGN Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ouinpis said: and kuva weapon,do they grant MR xp in your profil? Yes, after you forma them 5 times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouinpis Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 thx bro,now i know what they doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I on the other hand have been extremely lucky with my weapons on my 5 liches (6th one is yet to be killed) 25% impact kohm (haven't even tried, the innate D Polarity put me off immediately) 45% toxic tonkor (is amazing though I don't particularly care about launchers, thus one shot me when fighting the lich so many times, you need to be careful of Toxin weapons on liches, it is a high risk high reward weapon) 26% heat shildeg (the hammer with the stances change is #*!%ing awesome, a new spin to win baby, just needed one forma to get a good build going) 25% toxic quartakk (a direct upgrade to my existing one, not even mad that the bonus is small its an amazing gun, fits my old build with just 2 formas too) 51% radiation drakgoon (is lovely, it's so much of an upgrade over the regular one and since fomorian accelerant is a exilus mod I don't have to choose between builds, too bad it has no polarities) 31% heat chakkur (yet to gain but seems interesting, a one shot one kill kinda thing, imagine it being used frequently in eidolons now) I am honestly liking it so far, guess I would have been pissed if I had not gotten good enough weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Oreades said: The problem is the metrics you're putting off don't show that, your metrics show you continually pounding your face against the wall which is exactly what DE is going for. So from a numbers perspective things are probably pretty close to working as intended. If people keep grinding Liches even if they're complaining about it while they're doing it, the metrics are always going to be in opposition to the message. It doesn't matter if you're saying "I don't like this" if you're still doing it because all they're going to see is you still doing it. So much this. Take every upvote I have. Someone else gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)1kSakura Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I’m curious, how often did you guys get an ephemera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V3REiGN Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, (NSW)1kSakura said: I’m curious, how often did you guys get an ephemera? After nine liches, not once.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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