Niennah Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 If tennogen could also be purchased for platinum at five times the (converted) current price, would you do it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapn655321 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Niennah said: If tennogen could also be purchased for platinum at five times the (converted) current price, would you do it? No, because the creators wouldn't be able to get any of it. Gotta figure, a lot of the plat floating around is changing hands from trade to trade, until it settles into the pocket of a whale. The plat market fluctuates in ways real currency does not. Tennogen being real money prevents an instance of DE having to pay out money they don't get, to fund cosmetics from creators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kakurine2 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, kapn655321 said: No, because the creators wouldn't be able to get any of it. Gotta figure, a lot of the plat floating around is changing hands from trade to trade, until it settles into the pocket of a whale. The plat market fluctuates in ways real currency does not. Tennogen being real money prevents an instance of DE having to pay out money they don't get, to fund cosmetics from creators. You are only considering pc. On console plat is much more valuable and limited. Plus its how we get all skins and some helms. The present price on console for a tennogen skin tends to be 165 plat and deluxe bundles are 256. The way the coupon works on console is completely different then pc. Plus on console the artists get a glat buyout for thier skins. Then the consoles slowly. Release skins and are only buying the tennogen stuff they think will sell. Pc has dozens of tennogen items console does not presently have and may never get. Edited April 2, 2020 by (PS4)Kakurine2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Niennah said: If tennogen could also be purchased for platinum at five times the (converted) current price, would you do it? No but I would if they locked it to untraded, undiscounted plat and kept the prices in par with other skins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookieNumnums Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) It wouldnt be fair to the creators and id have less ways to support monetarily limited to prime accessories Because i dont buy plat packs Edited April 3, 2020 by PookieNumnums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kakurine2 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 On console its a rip off to buy the plat packs. Only plat gains for ps4 players come from unvaultings and prime access. Thus ps4 plat values and the market is a different animal. Most ps4 plat is going into skins, potatoes, color pallettes, accessories, and so on. People need yo br very frugle with plat on ps4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Frankly for being a free to play game, Warframe is taking the bad habits of shoving always more often up on my face lot of very good items for real money. I mean between prime accessories and lot of tennogen items I feel as now any plat user is just given a sop, while who pays (as usual) get the very good stuff. One of the things I always loved of the game was that it did not let you feel poor and restricted in comparison to pay-users. I would not mind all these tennogen items if Dev actually made the same kind of quality and quantity content for plat users. I know this is a business and you can't expect everything to be free, still i cannot notice that Warframe is slowly and gradually becoming the usual free to play game on the market. Hope the trend will stop and change direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolveYoutube Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Niennah said: If tennogen could also be purchased for platinum at five times the (converted) current price, would you do it? yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niennah Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, kapn655321 said: No, because the creators wouldn't be able to get any of it. Gotta figure, a lot of the plat floating around is changing hands from trade to trade, until it settles into the pocket of a whale. The plat market fluctuates in ways real currency does not. Tennogen being real money prevents an instance of DE having to pay out money they don't get, to fund cosmetics from creators. I'm not quite sure how to interpret your words. Are you saying five times the money value in platinum is not enough overhead to enable DE to (comfortably) pay out to creators? Or are you saying platinum that's already been sold has no monetary value anymore, and having it go out of the system via tennogen sales is not a viable way to generate more purchases of platinum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapn655321 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Niennah said: I'm not quite sure how to interpret your words. Are you saying five times the money value in platinum is not enough overhead to enable DE to (comfortably) pay out to creators? Or are you saying platinum that's already been sold has no monetary value anymore, and having it go out of the system via tennogen sales is not a viable way to generate more purchases of platinum? I'm saying that there are people sitting on tens of thousands of platinum, through trades alone. Should all of them purchase the tennogen with their existing mountain of platinum, nothing new enters the game when they do. It could be a hot new item, with no purchases having taken place. That aside, Tennogen creators get their cut at the point of sale from the cost. Otherwise, DE would have to cut a check to them instead.. which is worlds more complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--DSP--Jetstream Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Maybe those plat discounts on pc and yeah theres lots of people sitting on ten thousands plat by just trading maybe, plat value is kinda ruined on pc compared to console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Cloud said: Frankly for being a free to play game, Warframe is taking the bad habits of shoving always more often up on my face lot of very good items for real money. Very good totally optional to actually play the free game items. No, i wouldn't support Tennogen for plat at any price point, i know that for a little bit at least when i buy a tennogen item a artist whose work i like is getting something for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kakurine2 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, AzureTerra said: Very good totally optional to actually play the free game items. No, i wouldn't support Tennogen for plat at any price point, i know that for a little bit at least when i buy a tennogen item a artist whose work i like is getting something for it. So your ignoring console where the artist get payed a lump sum and players have to use plat to buy skins. Meaning plat is way more valuable in console. Not as much floating around. Granted i don't mind buying tennogen on pc via steam. In terms of plat per x cents pc players are psying less then us console players for skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Yep, i find it best to ignore consoles in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexOmega111x Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Il y a 11 heures, Niennah a dit : If tennogen could also be purchased for platinum at five times the (converted) current price, would you do it? Not sure that DE can decide to change that on pc. It is more about the deal that DE have with Steam. Edited April 3, 2020 by HexOmega111x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--Trekk Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 14 hours ago, Niennah said: If tennogen could also be purchased for platinum at five times the (converted) current price, would you do it? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLexiConArtist Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 It's drastically unfair to PC players that Tennogen which is in the common currency market for consoles does not get converted to such on PC under a similar agreement. Letting PC players pay the premiums for initial artist support and 'early access' is fine. Keeping it at obscene premium for PC once consoles can pay effectively less is like forcing a subset of the customer base to donate to the creator's Patreon just because they're on a different platform, after paying the same price for the content itself, in order to use it. And that doesn't even address the problem of it being in the trade market for consoles but absolutely exempt from trading access on PC. Meanwhile, anybody who doesn't have abundant cash to throw at pixels is stuck with basic skins and occasionally and eventually a Deluxe. DE more or less outsources 99% of making new cosmetics to Tennogen creators, so they don't have to do much of their own, and maintaining the selective non-trading barrier to that is just not reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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