Xemgoa Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 So, my intro for this thread is finding ways to improve Limbo So, after looking at the ways some of the DE Dev teams and Pablo approach how they revise and improve Warframes and their abilities, there are a couple that stands out the most are the following: One ability that cycles through 4 different effects. Abilities that alternate between effects when tapping or holding down a key when casting. And what I want to do is implement that into Limbo's kit. The issue that there are players today that don't like to play with people who use a Limbo, and some don't like using a Limbo, is because Limbo's abilities can be disruptive to how other people want to play, and Limbo can't quite control that - other than refraining from using his abilities except during certain circumstances that are widely acceptable to other players (Building for short range and high duration as possible and casting Cataclysm on a defense objective, Banishing other players purposefully to rush through enemies to extract quickly in some circumstances, etc). So I thought I propose some feedback through changes to some of Limbo's kit. Starting from top to bottom for his abilities, and the same for his passive.I do want to clarify that what I'm about the share is not THE defacto fix(es) for Limbo, and that isn't my intention and DE can literally do whatever it is they want - but I hope this likely inspires them to make better improvements to Limbo and whatever other frames and functions this could be applied to. Let's start off with the abilities - and the proposed changes after them: Banish - "Banishes enemies and allies alike into the Rift on cast." - change it so that players can "tap" to place enemies into the Rift, and "hold" to banish Allies instead, separating the abilities effects so Limbo can choose who he wants to banish instead, rather than just a blanket effect depending on the casting point - plus, making it "tap" for banishing enemies helps prevent allies from making the mistake of banishing allies who didn't want to be under the effect. Stasis - "Enemies are frozen in place if they happen to be in the Rift." - not sure it really needs any changes, it's really good on it's own. Someone might suggest any improvements or changes, but for now, I have no idea. Rift Surge - "Enemies in the Rift who are under this effect will Banish other enemies adjacent to them outside the Rift." - ... To be honest, I don't know what audience or demographic finds this ability useful, and I admit though - I believe I don't find it useful. Most people would rather not be put under Banish as much as they would not like to stay in the Rift for prolonged periods of time to utilize this particular ability as much as possible. Some people want to use their weapons, powers, or both unabated. I would recommend changing it to something else entirely that is useful, or make it a cyclable ability with 3 other extra effects - Rift Surge as one, and whatever 3 there will be (Enemies fight each other, enemy weapons are disable, enemies are morph into harmless or less harmful creatures while in the Rift and under the effect, etc?) Cataclysm - "Tear open a huge pocket to the Rift plane for a short time." - not sure if this ability needs changing, as there is probably a big enough audience who doesn't mind being in the Rift in whatever circumstance warrants using Cataclysm. Passive - "Limbo opens a small portal to the Rift and shifts into another dimension as he dodges, and comes back into the physical world by dodging again" - Again, change it where "tapping" the dodge key allows Limbo to "transition" into the Rift without leaving behind a portal, and "holding" allows Limbo to "transition" into the Rift and leaving a portal behind him. Also, it would be nice if there was proper incentive, and a non-invasive one at that, that encourages players to use their powers when in the Rift - since powers affect enemies no matter what plane they are on. But I am not sure how that both be properly conveyed to new players and any player that is unaware of this fact when working in proximity to a Limbo, and neither do I have any idea how to make it worthwhile. Perhaps enemies are more prone/vulnerable to Warframe powers when under the effects of the Rift? Perhaps Warframe powers are augmented while in the Rift? I am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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