Remove the weapon requirement for sorties

[Vaml77]

I ask DE to remove the weapon requirement for sorties. It makes no sense to ask for this anymore! Changing weapons causes the player a feeling of fatigue and the game is already somewhat repetitive. You don't have to force the player to choose which type of weapon...that goes against the health of the game and the player!

[Pakaku]

If it makes no sense, then why do any other Sortie modifiers make sense. The weapon one is a free pass IMO, and it takes all of 15 seconds to hop in and swap weapons.

[TARINunit9]

8 minutes ago, Vaml77 said:

 Changing weapons causes the player a feeling of fatigue and the game is already somewhat repetitive.

Other than the five seconds walk to the back of your Orbiter, I argue the opposite is true. Four sniper rifles or four assault rifles is a unique experience I wouldn't get otherwise; if players had a choice it would all be Arca Plasmor and Kuva Bramma over and over again

[Vaml77]

2 minutes ago, TARINunit9 said:

Other than the five seconds walk to the back of your Orbiter, I argue the opposite is true. Four sniper rifles or four assault rifles is a unique experience I wouldn't get otherwise; if players had a choice it would all be Arca Plasmor and Kuva Bramma over and over again

forcing players to use weapons its not the way....its wrong.

[Tiltskillet]

Weapon restricted sorties have been some of my favorite co-op experiences in this game.  Honestly I've sometimes wished there was a penalty to ability damage in them, so that the restriction wasn't so easy to cheese.

But there's no penalty, so if you will forever hate all bows or all snipers or whatever, I'd suggest using a frame that doesn't need weapons to accomplish the mission.  Nukes or exalted weapons are common solutions, and some sorties don't even require damage.

[Cr4zyDoc]

vor 54 Minuten schrieb Vaml77:

forcing players to use weapons its not the way....its wrong.

have you played any other game besides warframe?

Lmao... one mission thats not even an everyday thing. Its not wrong. Its the same like eximus missions/radiation etc. a modifier to make them diffrent from regular missions.

Whats this childish crybaby mentality lately about everything. We had these for YEARS and no one complaining. And there are OP weapons in every category... 

vor einer Stunde schrieb Vaml77:

and the game is already somewhat repetitive.

yeah so you say to remove modifiers to make sortie missions even MORE repetitive.... sorry what u ask for doesnt even makes sense and contradicts itself.

[Slayer-.]

9 hours ago, Vaml77 said:

I ask DE to remove the weapon requirement for sorties. It makes no sense to ask for this anymore! Changing weapons causes the player a feeling of fatigue and the game is already somewhat repetitive. You don't have to force the player to choose which type of weapon...that goes against the health of the game and the player!

I get the feeling the user may be a BOOM BOOM user and having to use a non-aoe gun hurts. 

I see the 7 weapons in the line of your profile sorted by USED weapons are in fact exploding (BOOM BOOM) weapons. Chakkhurr doesn't count unless it's a headshot.

You do realise you have Warframe abilities to use as well, just saying. 

[GilgaMelchi]

Il y a 15 heures, Vaml77 a dit :

the game is already somewhat repetitive

I think you missed your argument because I believe forcing players to change their arsenal or way of play is making the game LESS repetitive.

[1984]

Idk it doesn't really affect me that much..  nor i think this is a bad/good change. But. i know for a fact that sorties that require you to have a sniper rifle is kind of a pain for newbies because theres no mkII version of any sniper rifle that you can purchase for credits and so you can't really complete it like if it was any other restriction if you don't have sniper rifle in your arsenal.

[R4bbit0le]

15 hours ago, Vaml77 said:

forcing players to use weapons its not the way....its wrong.

You can use exalted weapons and frame's abilities.
Sorties are not required for progression.

[Hobie-wan]

On 2023-05-15 at 2:18 PM, Vaml77 said:

I ask DE to remove the weapon requirement for sorties. It makes no sense to ask for this anymore! Changing weapons causes the player a feeling of fatigue and the game is already somewhat repetitive. You don't have to force the player to choose which type of weapon...that goes against the health of the game and the player!

If the restriction didn't force you to mix things up a bit, you'd just run the mission with the same weapons you run every mission with. Playing the game like that is what causes fatigue.

It's like people complaining about the random element in Duviri. "I don't like it because I can't use my favorite weapon and frame". If you were choosing from everything in your arsenal, it'd just be more of the same, only with a different backdrop. Granted I do often lazily choose my favorites when they pop up for Duviri, I have revisited some equipment I used and ignored and had fun. I need to go rework mods on a bunch of things which is good as it has given me things to do again since I'm LR3.

[Althaline]

On 2023-05-16 at 5:28 AM, TARINunit9 said:

Other than the five seconds walk to the back of your Orbiter, I argue the opposite is true. Four sniper rifles or four assault rifles is a unique experience I wouldn't get otherwise; if players had a choice it would all be Arca Plasmor and Kuva Bramma over and over again

I had a great time one day with 4 sniper rifles on a Kuva Fortress survival. We just sat on the spawn tile and fired down the 3 corridors, it was a great feeling.

[NecroPed]

I'd personally just prefer that if it has a weapon requirement then it brings up a menu where we select the weapon of choice, rather than modifying our actual loadout. Otherwise I actually like the weapon requirements, not that I do sortie often though. 

[f0ba]

On 2023-05-15 at 12:32 PM, Vaml77 said:

forcing players to use weapons its not the way....its wrong.

What’s “wrong” about diversifying your loadout and a restriction in a single mission that is designed to be endgame and a literally nonexistent challenge?

[(PSN)Nierou]

While I don't agree with removing the restrictions, it does suck for newer players who may not have a good weapon of that type. Me for example i don't have any good rifles, I have rubico p for sniper, nataruk for bow, cedo for shotgun but the rifle options available to me really just don't feel good to use... Admittedly i could have had the phenmor but I wanted the felarx instead so now I am still stuck not having any rifles other than ignis.

Which to hijack this a little does anyone have any recommendations for "rifles" that can handle steel path and sorties? I just really haven't found anything despite me not even attempting to look 😀 

[Slayer-.]

3 hours ago, (PSN)Nierou said:

While I don't agree with removing the restrictions, it does suck for newer players who may not have a good weapon of that type. Me for example i don't have any good rifles, I have rubico p for sniper, nataruk for bow, cedo for shotgun but the rifle options available to me really just don't feel good to use... Admittedly i could have had the phenmor but I wanted the felarx instead so now I am still stuck not having any rifles other than ignis.

Which to hijack this a little does anyone have any recommendations for "rifles" that can handle steel path and sorties? I just really haven't found anything despite me not even attempting to look 😀 

Boltor/Prime or Telos Boltor, Soma Prime, Basmu, Ignis/Wraith, Amprex, Prisma Gorgon and Stahlta and more can handle the star chart easily along with the Sortie, my selection is just a very few I use along with others, most of my WF's and Weapons are pimped so I have a big pool of fun weapons to choose from..

[(PSN)FunyFlyBoy]

On 2023-05-15 at 2:32 PM, Vaml77 said:

forcing players to use weapons its not the way....its wrong.

Lol I am more pressed about Radiation Sorties than being made to use a specific weapon type. 

23 hours ago, (PSN)Nierou said:

Which to hijack this a little does anyone have any recommendations for "rifles" that can handle steel path and sorties? I just really haven't found anything despite me not even attempting to look 😀

Soma Prime, Tiberon Prime, Amprex, Branton Prime (with or without incarnon), Burston Prime (with or without incarnon), Dex Sybaris, Sybaris Prime, Glaxion Vandal, Phenmor, Latron Prime (with or without incarnon), Opticor Vandal, Opticor Vandal, and Trumna are all weapons I have used on Steel Path at some point. If they can beat up Steel Path, they will cake Sorties. 

[Slayer-.]

2 hours ago, (PSN)FunyFlyBoy said:

Lol I am more pressed about Radiation Sorties than being made to use a specific weapon type. 

Radiation sorties can be fun if all of you are having a blast and doing the objective with no problem, using voice comms in-game, though I had to move away from the main group, my Gyre didn't discriminate along with the other frames too.  

 

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[(PSN)FunyFlyBoy]

8 hours ago, Slayer-. said:

Radiation sorties can be fun if all of you are having a blast and doing the objective with no problem, using voice comms in-game, though I had to move away from the main group, my Gyre didn't discriminate along with the other frames too.  

I straight up don't even read modifiers half the time unless I get an alert that I do not have the correct loadout requirements. The times I walked into a Radiation Sortie as Gyre or Saryn and just... my poor Squad.